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3 bombshells that Nobody Bothered to Tell Me

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Eyezswideshut · 23/11/2019 14:10

Background

Live with DP for 1.5 years now. We've both always contributed to all our shared lifestyle roughly 50/50 but sometimes one person will be in a better financial position than the other so usually 1 is paying most and then it swaps around. Never had an issue with this. He does as much as me in that sense.

DP has 2 kids he sees regularly. They stay over and we also get on well. There has never been any issue with his ex. His ex is on very good terms with his family. They were childhood sweethearts and their families are located in the same area (2-3 generations). We live a little bit away from them so don't see them all as much but ex spends a lot of time with his female relatives. This isn't the problem, I'm just setting the scene so you all might be able to understand how this happened.

DP's work is project based. He gets paid per job but it might be months between pay checks of a few thousand pounds depending on the size of the project. As far as I understood, he pays for the kids out of this money as and when it comes on an informal arrangement. Their kids don't seem to want for anything and they were always amicable so I assumed that his ex was happy with this and received sufficient money.

To sum up, my impression was that DP had always been a involved Dad who was hands on and paid for his kids. Nobody ever said a bad word about him and his kids seem to love him to bits. The only small clue I had to the contrary is that he was clueless when shopping for his daughter.

1st Bombshell

We planned a baby. We planned for me to work part time in my own business (mobile hairdresser) after a year of maternity leave. We planned to use the deposit I've saved and buy somewhere (we've saved some etc). When ex found out about me being pregnant, she called ex and said she wants a chat with him about the future. He came back saying that she wants to formalize maintenance and from the figures they worked out together, it will mean that we can't go forward with most of the plans we had. I'd have to go back to work by 6 months (to a salon) and the money we have saved will have to cover living expenses.

At the time, people questioned (on here) how making the support formal would change his expenditure so drastically if he was always paying a sufficient amount for his children. It didn't occur to me that he wasn't.

2nd Bombshell

Ex lets me know that he probably won't wake up for feeds or to help in the night because he does "day time". I've had a history of a severe depressive episode in my teens that started when I was not sleeping due to exam/peer stresses. I'm now very anxious about not sleeping in case it happens again. He lets me know that ex spent most nights with her mum when the kids were young to get help. I had no clue this was how it went whatsoever.

3rd Bombshell

I reach out to DP's mum and sister who tell me that he was a shitty dad/partner. Fun but not dependable and since we have been together (2.5 years), he has barely given his ex a penny. The only thing he contributes is what I see (clothes,trainers, days out,toys) and that they (mum and his older sister) used to get the kids basics to help out the kid's mum. He would buy something ultra trendy for their birthdays or Xmas but for his benefit rather than theirs. They laughed when I expressed my ignorance to all this and said obviously considering they are still on good terms, theyd be together if he was a good dad/partner. They said he loves his kids but he's too much of a Jack the Lad to be more hands on.

I can't believe they haven't told me all this. I'm now 38 weeks pregnant with our baby and I can't do it alone. My parents told me that it was silly to have my first marriage/baby with someone whose done it all already and they are BOTH married to other people with kids themselves.

Don't you think people should have let me know sooner? I probably know 50-75 of his close family and friends (think East End type area) and they've never given me any impression other than that he is a brilliant dad and a great catch.

OP posts:
monkeymonkey2010 · 23/11/2019 15:04

I'm now 38 weeks pregnant with our baby and I can't do it alone
You ARE DEFINITELY going to be doing it alone - he's just told you to your face.
YOU will also be financially providing for this child as well.

He chose to lie and deceive you throughout your 'relationship'.
He basically sold you a lie of who he is and what kind of future you could have with him.

...and you're mug enough to ignore all this due to the sunken cost fallacy?
He's told you he expects YOU to be a lone parent and do all the parenting on your own and take on all the responsibility whilst he dips in and out as and when he feels like it, throws you a few pounds when he feels like it.

Find your self respect and walk away from this twat.

MagratsDanglyCharms · 23/11/2019 15:13

How far away do your parents live? Would either of them be hands on grandparents? Could taking your half on the deposit money and moving closer to them / in with them for a few months be a possibility? You NEED support and you won't get it where you are. So sorry you're facing this.

Eyezswideshut · 23/11/2019 15:24

Genuine question:

Do other people actually ask to see bank accounts and outgoings rather than relying on what their partner tells them? If someone demanded to see my accounts, I'd find that controlling.

He does do stuff around the house. Especially DIY type things.

OP posts:
CustomerCervixDepartment · 23/11/2019 15:26

He’s not a ‘partner’ (whatever that even means), he has told you he will not be parenting your kid, believe him. He’s just a boyfriend. Don’t risk your finances or home by investing any money into anything with him or for him. He has told you you will be a lone parent, so start making plans for that.

PanemEtCircenses · 23/11/2019 15:29

His family and ex were probably glad he got into a new relationship with someone who is kind to his kids and would help him look after them. They didn’t want to put you off him. Plus, there are double standards in parenting. Mothers are judged on what they don’t do for their children and father’s on what they do do for their kids, however little that is. (Even the biggest shits of males get “oh but he loves his kids.”)

What do you plan to do?

Eyezswideshut · 23/11/2019 15:31

We've been living together for 18 months now so even if he is a total prick, he's currently very much my partner.

He also hasn't said I'd be a lone parent, he's said he doesn't do night feeds or nappies. He's said lots of things he does do and I've seen him do for the kids he has.

Another thing he does is most of the DIY in his exes house even though she has a partner herself.

I'm not saying this isnt bad or I'm not considering leaving him but lets make sure we are all on the same page about the problem.

He doesn't do nights with babies or many of the exhausting bits and he doesn't pay for the kids he has outside of luxury items. That's the issue.

OP posts:
onalongsabbatical · 23/11/2019 15:35

If someone demanded to see my accounts, I'd find that controlling. By the time you're living with someone and having a child, you share that info. So no 'demands' required.

Goldenchildsmum · 23/11/2019 15:35

Do other people actually ask to see bank accounts and outgoings rather than relying on what their partner tells them? If someone demanded to see my accounts, I'd find that controlling.

Why is it controlling to share information freely and happily? There's no question that you don't trust. It's simply sharing with love and openness

Why is it controlling to know what's going on in your partner's life?

You don't need to know when he's going to the toilet - but there are crucial elements in life which we need to share - and one of those is finances

Otherwise - a mess can occur.

As you now know

Goldenchildsmum · 23/11/2019 15:37

He doesn't do nights with babies or many of the exhausting bits and he doesn't pay for the kids he has outside of luxury items. That's the issue.

Girl stop with the excuses. The man is a tosspot. Utter shyte imo

BedraggledBlitz · 23/11/2019 15:38

Do you think he can change? My ex was pretty useless, just saw it all as my job. But I didnt help myself by trying to be super mum while he went to work. Communication is really important.

Dollymixture22 · 23/11/2019 15:38

I think this speaks to his character.

He doesn’t do nappies or many dishes the exhausting bits - that’s what parenting is. How can he have agreed to have another child when he isn’t prepared to participate in parenting.

He does help support his children - he is a deadbeat dad.

He will never change, this is the man you are with

onalongsabbatical · 23/11/2019 15:39

He doesn't do nights with babies or many of the exhausting bits and he doesn't pay for the kids he has outside of luxury items. That's like saying he doesn't step up as a parent, OP.

BlackSwanGreen · 23/11/2019 15:43

Look at it this way, OP.

If you'd had a baby with a man who didn't already have kids, you wouldn't know how he was in terms of caring for a baby or supporting his partner. So in a way, you're in no worse a position than lots of women who discover after having a baby that their partner is lazy, selfish and immature. It's just you've found it out a couple of weeks early.

So I guess what I'm saying is, don't get too hung up on the "why didn't anyone tell me?" thing. Have a big chat with him and make it clear that he doesn't get to say "I don't do night times". Either he is a committed partner or he isn't.

Mammajay · 23/11/2019 15:48

Presumably you love each other. You have to work together. His first partner might have accepted that he didn't do nappies and tbh I think he might be trying it on to tell you he won't be doing certain things. You have to persuade him otherwise. His relationship with her is not his relationship with you.

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 23/11/2019 15:57

It wasn’t anyone else responsibility to make sure you knew who you were creating a child with. That’s entirely on you. You didn’t do your homework.

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 23/11/2019 16:03

He doesn't do nights with babies or many of the exhausting bits and he doesn't pay for the kids he has outside of luxury items.

Tell him he does now.

Nothingbutquestions · 23/11/2019 16:03

Do other people actually ask to see bank accounts and outgoings rather than relying on what their partner tells them?

It's not a case of demanding proof, more that it's unusual for these things not to become visible when you're living together and combining finances. They come up in conversation, paperwork tends to all get kept together, there will normally be discussions about budgeting, especially if planning a baby so I think most people's knowledge of their partners finances just sort of evolves naturally through being/living together. Unless of course someone is hiding something or attempting to misrepresent themselves Hmm

freeingNora · 23/11/2019 16:12

I feel sorry for you however if you're not planning on leaving I suggest you dig in this is your story and his ex is shoring up the ditches ready she's well prepared

OlderthenYoungerNow · 23/11/2019 16:15

When PP are saying you'll do it alone, it's because they know the relationship with a shitty partner is unlikely to last I imagine. Being a single parent is easier then co-parenting with a shitty person like your stbx I'd say.

You 100% have my sympathy. Some people find this out before the live together or get pregnant, some find it out after through their partners actions. You've been told at the 11th hour by friends and family, which is shitty but as bad as finding out in a few weeks when you're sore, confused and think you're going mad with a newborn perhaps? Either way, dump his arse, get maintenance formalised and live your life without this sorry excuse for a dad.

dontlickthelamp · 23/11/2019 16:18

Will he absolutely not budge? Have you told him in no uncertain terms that he WILL be doing night feeds and contributing towards the baby?

notacooldad · 23/11/2019 16:22

My family arent unsupportive per se,they just advised strongly against being with a guy with kids because of the complexity of the relationships.

You were given advice from your family but didnt take it. Why would you have taken advice from his family?

Bluntness100 · 23/11/2019 16:26

Did you not at any point understand his earnings, and his outgoings?,how do you work out who is paying what? It's not about demanding to know, but generally couples talk about how much they earn, what money is coming in, and what is going out.

I'm struggling to comprehend how you had no idea what he paid for the kids.

Awrite · 23/11/2019 16:27

A man who doesn't pay for his children? You are a terrible judge of character.

It seems your family members are not though. You should have heeded their warnings.

What to do? Leave him. How could you not. Looking after a baby will be easier than looking after a baby and a manbaby prick.

Different circumstances but I did parent my first on my own. Wasn't hard.

LonginesPrime · 23/11/2019 16:38

Thing is, OP, most people who have kids have no idea whether their partner is going to be a good parent or not. The great thing about dating someone who already has DC is that you can find out first hand what kind of a parent they will be as you can look at what kind of parent they already are.

You've had more opportunity to gauge your DP's parenting style and ability than most people, so I don't think you can blame anyone else here.

I'm now 38 weeks pregnant with our baby and I can't do it alone

You absolutely can do it on your own - there are loads of single parents doing a fantastic job so please stop telling yourself that you need to be with him - if you stay with him, do it because you actually want to, not because you feel you have no choice.

popehilarious · 23/11/2019 16:41

Nappies, night feeds and exhausting bits are 95% of parenting babies. When they nap for half an hour or so that's when you can shower or make a cup of tea - what is he suggesting he actually does? Wheel the baby around/ wear in a sling to get them to sleep would be the only helpful thing I could think of!