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DP left me because I 'hate' his children

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Atleastihavethecat · 12/11/2018 14:34

Name changed.

DP and I had been together for a few years now, but due to issues with his ex I only met his kids at the beginning of this year. He has been very involved with mine.

The issues with his ex have been getting so bad that his solicitor is saying we need to seriously consider applying for residency as she's damaging the children. The judge has been saying that things need to change drastically or the court will make decisions for her.

We've been talking about it and I said I'm not there yet. He's had years to build a relationship with my kids. I've had one. His kids are also much younger than mine.

So today he's left me because I apparently hate them. I can't tell if this is because I wasn't on board with the idea straight away. Or because I actually agree that they do need to be removed from the ex, I just need to be 1000% that I want the responsibility.

I'm not saying that I don't feel some sort of emotional bond to them. I play with them, I never make differences between the two sets of kids when I'm buying clothes or toys or for Christmas.

I'm not sure what else I can do or could have done. I'm so upset.

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Bluntness100 · 13/11/2018 20:38

When you enter a relationship with someone who has kids and you live with them , you do so thinking that they could live with you too

I think fundamentally I agree with you there, things change, a resident parent may pass away, be incapacitated, and scenarios can change, it is probably prudent to take on someone as a unit, or not at all, in the understanding that at some point, your partner may well need to become the resident parent.

Bananasinpyjamas11 · 13/11/2018 23:14

It’s a serious business, combing families. ... my own mistake Grin apologies :-)

Atleastihavethecat · 13/11/2018 23:35

We've spoken today. He said he panicked himself at the idea of seeking residency and the end result was us arguing. The ex isn't going to take any change in circumstances well, and he is concerned about how she would react - potentially leaving the country.

I feel like we both need to take a few days/weeks and assess. The whole thing is stressful and difficult to navigate without us adding to it by acting like children having a temper tantrum.

I'm not sure how to proceed in terms of our relationship. I still feel like we're a long way off making a successful application for residency, and I don't think making one at this stage would help the situation between him and his ex. She's already so high conflict, and treats him with so much loathing. It wouldn't be in the kids interest for that to intensify.

I also don't want any of the four kids to have us set an example of walking away when relationships get a bit hard. But they also need to see that they come first. It's a difficult balance to find.

My DC know that we're disagreeing, and that we're taking a few days to sort out our thoughts before we try the discussion again. If they know what we're arguing about, they haven't said.

I think if this was a situation where the ex was incapacitated, or had passed away, my feelings would be different. There would be some stability. While tragic, if she had passed away, there would be no chance of her trying to break into the house, or any other equally mad behaviour. She has previously sat outside contact recording, she has followed him to the park and recorded him during his contact. Her previous behaviour definitely influences how I feel. It would essentially be inviting crazy into my kids lives.

I think much more thought I'd needed all around.

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Bananasinpyjamas11 · 14/11/2018 21:52

Maybe slow down a bit then. However don’t rule out residency until you’ve thought it through? That option should be considered even if it’s DP having a separate residence. Maybe go to counseling and just very rationally go through options. See how it goes with solicitors. Consider all children’s stability.

flighthelpneeded · 20/11/2018 11:05

I also don't want any of the four kids to have us set an example of walking away when relationships get a bit hard. But they also need to see that they come first. It's a difficult balance to find

OP I think you are both doing the right thing. He wants to prioritise his dc and so do you. You are teaching all dc that staying in a relationship is not always the best thing. You and your dc hardly know his dc, it isn't fair on your dc to suddenly have 2 new children living FT in their home. His dc sound as if they have been psychologically damaged and will need his undivided attention for some time to ensure a healthy attachment and bond. This is a no brainer to me.

Him coming back and saying that he was worried therefore bolted would worry me slightly. Be careful that he is not taking on his dc thinking that you being there will make his 'workload' easier. Just reading this board will show you how many times a man's dc come to live with him and the step mum ends up doing everything. You need to lay everything out on the table from now, it would be much worse for you to soldier on and a few weeks in decide that they all have to leave.

TooSassy · 20/11/2018 18:11

OP I think you are being very sensible. The alarm bells instinctively going off in your head are spot on. It is not remotely boundaried or emotionally balanced behaviour to be sat outside a property / follow your DP and record him. There’s either something not quite right with her. Or there’s something not quite right with him (in terms of how he’s interacted with her historically in their relationship). Either way, bringing that into your world further requires A LOT of thinking on your part. If she is high conflict now, this sort of behaviour doesn’t miraculously stop (read up on co-parenting with high conflict individuals). You have the potential for non stop drama coming into your life.

I’m not suggesting you break up but I do think you should think about the impact of all of this on your DC and you. Residency aside, this is a lot to take on. (And I speak from experience language that have nearly broken me). My ExDP has a very high conflict ex and it sucked the life out of me and my relationship.

As an aside, it is an important lesson to learn as a child that you don’t give up when times get hard. But there’s also a lesson in that you don’t throw a tantrum and walk out on your partner and her because you’re overwhelmed and hearing something you don’t want to hear.

He sounds like a big child himself who needs to grow up. He walked out and had a tantrum and now he’s the one overwhelmed? In the words of JT. Cry me a river. Sounds like you’re the one having to be an adult in this situation.

Atleastihavethecat · 20/11/2018 22:18

Yes! That's exactly how I feel. I have to be the adult and think of everyone. The relationship between them was abusive, and he's finding it difficult to recover from that. Especially as he has to interact with her so often, and she's quite nasty when they do interact.

She's seems to have problems separating her feelings for him, and the DC's feelings for him. She doesn't understand that they don't hate him. She's also recently introduced her partner of five weeks to them. They're all moving in together after Christmas, apparently.

I'm still taking my time, and thinking about what's best for all of us. I'm really conflicted on this.

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TooSassy · 20/11/2018 22:41

Well maybe I’m cynical OP but leopards don’t change their spots. He’s shown you who he is. Don’t ignore that.

It’s exhausting having to be the grown up and prop these men up. Let him have his tantrums and be overwhelmed in his space on his time. He needs to figure this out. Focus on you and your DC and what you need as a unit. You and your DC come first.

anniehm · 20/11/2018 22:44

If the circumstances are as you state, he needs to have a suitable home for his kids now, he has done the responsible thing in these circumstances

BumbleBeee69 · 20/11/2018 22:51

Well maybe I’m cynical OP but leopards don’t change their spots. He’s shown you who he is. Don’t ignore that

It’s exhausting having to be the grown up and prop these men up. Let him have his tantrums and be overwhelmed in his space on his time. He needs to figure this out. Focus on you and your DC and what you need as a unit. You and your DC come first

I agree with this completely Flowers

Cherries101 · 29/11/2018 12:26

He wasn’t wrong to prioritize his kids but you were definitely not wrong to prioritize yours. A lot of blended family situations just don’t work and when you add complex SN to the mix it gets even more difficult. I suggest you split up and just take time to focus on you and your kids for a bit.

Atleastihavethecat · 15/12/2018 01:20

Just wanted to update, and thank everyone for their advice.

DP and I spent a long time talking about the best way forward. He understands what I was saying, I think I probably phrased it wrong at the time. He's been going back and forth to courts for the whole of our relationship, and the stress that causes is unbelievable on its own.

He felt like he was getting it from all sides. The solicitor was presenting our options in moving forward, and when he relayed the information to his family, they started pushing him to apply for residency, which I find highly odd, as they don't see his dc - that's a whole other post! But with all them telling him we can do it, and must do it, there I was saying I think we need to think about how we would go about this, and is it the best thing to do at this time. Add in a giant solicitors bill, two frustrated court dates- a solicitor change, and a 'miscommunication' -, and a high conflict ex, the school are saying that she has told them that he is not to collect them, and despite seeing the court order, they're following her directive, and he felt like there was nobody on his side. I think perhaps we weren't communicating properly on any of the issues as well, and I had no idea that he was feeling pressure from his family, while at they same time they forgot to invite him/us to several family events - birthdays, celebratory meals, etc.(Whole other post!)

He needs to talk to me more about everything that's going on, and I need to show more understanding. It can't have been easy to hear that people believe your dc are in danger of psychological damage, and I don't think I showed him that I understood it was hard for him. I felt that it was a decision we shouldn't make on emotion, and I took all emotion out of it, and of course, it is a hugely emotive subject.

We've also talked to a whole load of professionals. We're trying to come up with coping strategies for him to use when he has to deal with her. We're also looking at ways to minimise the impact of her alienation on the dc.

We have talked with my dc about the situation, and how they would like to see things move forwards. I've spoken with both of their schools about the ongoing court drama. I feel that as they spent a large part of the day with them, it would be helpful to have other people keep an eye and be aware of the issues. My DS's school have been incredibly helpful. They're talking with him about blending families, and have been an invaluable resource of information for us.

He's not going to seek a change in residency right now, because it would in all probability fail, but there are agencies involved now to move things forward. He agrees, and so does the solicitor, that a failed application is likely to make her even harder to deal with, and she probably would move again. He has a court date in January, so is seeking 40% access, with the hope that the judge will put penalties on her if she breaches again.

I feel like we're on the same page with it, which I think was part of his problem anyway. I think he was feeling almost exactly like how I felt, but then had everyone telling him it was the right thing to do. If she had passed away, there would be no question. Likewise, if the court ordered it right now, there would be no question. From my point of view and his, but doing it this way, it feels like a big thing, and not one we would win at this point.

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swingofthings · 15/12/2018 06:26

Well done to both of you for showing strength in listening to each other rather than assuming the other was acting unreasonably and selfishly. Stress and anxiety really impacts on our ability to communicate well but you've managed to take a step back, breath hard and open up to each other. As such you've grown stronger as a couple and we're able to come up with something you were both comfortable with.

It won't be an easy road but if you can focus on your communication, try to understand things from the others perspective and do the same with all children, you'll be able to make it work. You're a great example of how to best handle such situations.

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