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That you were / are the other woman

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Willyouadmit · 28/04/2018 21:24

I admit I was. I read a lot of threads on here and posters always justify with I was not the other woman. My DH and I have been together 10 years. When I met him he didn't initially (for about a month) tell me he was married with children. The day he told me everything I was angry and upset. I told him he had to make his decision immediately.

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Pleasebeafleabite · 02/05/2018 11:08

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eloisesparkle · 02/05/2018 11:19

TooSassy
Your username should be
TooNice

In time when your dc are older I would tell them how their dads cheating affected their lives and yours.

You sound amazing.

SandyY2K · 02/05/2018 22:41

Tbh I just don't believe all those who say they weren't the OW are telling the truth on here.

They know they'll get slated if they admit it.

Sometimes the timing dhiws an overlap and they are emphatic about not being the OW. I don't buy it.

auditqueen · 03/05/2018 17:56

say his was unhappy, well it wasn't THAT unhappy as he would have left before and chose not to.

Interesting. Would you say this to a woman who was trapped in an abusive marriage, or would you be more understanding of how fucking difficult it is to leave when you are ground down by constant violence and threats?

QueenOfIce · 06/05/2018 13:48

But the op states she didn't know and when she found out she gave him an ultimatum and he chose her. She didn't break up his family. He did that.

NorthernSpirit · 06/05/2018 14:49

No one leaves a happy marriage.

Leedsgirlfriend · 06/05/2018 15:24

Exactly, Northern.

NorthernSpirit · 06/05/2018 15:28

I don’t condone affairs and I know how devastating they can be. I think many men are weak and use it as a way out.

swingofthings · 06/05/2018 16:47

No one leaves a happy marriage.
Few marriages are happy all the time from start until death do us apart. Many marriage go through tough times, quite a few go through very difficult times. Some make it through and make it stronger by being patient, reflecting on their own behaviours, compromising and learning through it all to make things better.

Some marriages do reach a point when there really is nothing left to salvage, but I think that many people to leave the ship before it sinks when they see a new fancy cruiseliner that offers them to hop on.

Willyouadmit · 06/05/2018 19:48

It has been interesting to read everyone's replies. For those asking the reason for my post it was really to see whether anyone admits they were / are the other woman - it was reading all the threads on here where everyone always stated they were not. I just found it a bit unbelievable that every poster on here was not.
Also if your relationship is happy and going strong- regardless of how it started why wouldn't you admit It? Similarly if it didn't work out do you admit that too?
There are a lot of posts regarding the consequences of affairs etc my post wasn't really aimed at discussing that aspect. Maybe I should have made that clearer in the OP. In no way am I disrespecting those that have posted regarding their own personal experience. --I'm not great with words and don't really know how to word that without seeming like I'm offending people Hmm I think I made a bit of a fail myself getting dragged into posting too much detail about my own personal experience and maybe I should have listened to myself a bit more.
I think the general consensus on here is that it would be shameful to admit it and so many don't admit it. Also seems like some people see things from a very black and white point of view, there's no room for any grey areas in the middle.
And I do wonder if there's ever a post there may well be which reads something along the lines of "... must my now DW whilst she was still with her EXH, however in a very unhappy / controlling relationship and was afraid to leave. But I helped her out of that situation..." I can't help thinking the replies would have been different somehow.
However as an open discussion forum everyone is entitled to their own point of view.
And to those that questioned / stated I only had my DH version of events etc... well surely that works both ways as well. Does that mean his EXW version of events is ultimately the truth? Whichever party makes the decision to leave, will possibly always be frowned upon but it might not always be the wrong decision.

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QueenOfIce · 06/05/2018 20:12

I'm pretty sure people who have been or who are the ow don't admit it because they know it's wrong.

You would be devastated to find out that your dh had an affair and then left you for her. It's a cowardly act to have an affair. If you're unhappy and your marriage cannot be worked out, leave don't look for the grass is greener scenario. Treat others how you would like to be treated and I'm pretty sure that's not to have your dh play away then leave you for her.

TooSassy · 07/05/2018 09:25

met my now DW whilst she was still with her EXH, however in a very unhappy / controlling relationship and was afraid to leave. But I helped her out of that situation..."

Actually my response (deep down) would be identical. It is no different to the standard, 'my wife doesn't understand me, I'm trapped because of the children, all she does is shout at me, I hate my life.'
That may well be the case, it may not be, but it's very hard to unpick the truth because on the whole, people tell themselves what they need to tell themselves in order to justify their behaviour. It's what our brains are fundamentally wired to do.

Whichever party makes the decision to leave, will possibly always be frowned upon but it might not always be the wrong decision.

No one on these boards (aside from a few marriage is for life commentators) would, I think, say that leaving if you are unhappy is frowned upon. I would have welcomed my EXH speaking to me openly and telling me how desperately unhappy he was. But he didn't want to. Because whilst running off his mouth about how 'trapped' he was, the reality was he came home to 2.4 kids and wife. He wanted it all. You see, so much of this is about perception, justification and storytelling.

And the OW/ OM who somehow continue to justify her/ his actions, I'm afraid there are very few people in life who will understand. Or Sympathise.

In my late twenties, an ex boyfriend called me.Out of the blue. He was unhappy and divorcing his wife he told me. He couldn't take anymore. He was going to leave her and his kids the house and move out.
He had until that point in my life, been the love of my life and I was yet to move into a committed (aka married) relationship since he and I had split some 8 years previously. He possibly knew this because of family connections.

When I drilled down, he hadn't actually told her what he was telling me. He hadn't retained a lawyer and he was still in their house.
I told him not to call me ever again, not until he had made the decision that leaving her was what he wanted to do for him. Had moved out. Started divorce proceedings and been separated for at least a year. If I was still single at that point then we could talk but that it was unlikely I would be. I then hung up.

12 years has passed since then. My phone never rang. He's still with her. Had I told him in that phone call to leave her and come to me this is what would have happened.

  1. He would have left her and come straight to me. Like a monkey, he needed another branch to swing to before letting go of the one he had.
  2. Once reality of not seeing his kids had kicked in and the reality of this being forever, he would have gone back to her. And if she hadn't taken him back, he would have been wracked with guilt and pining.

THAT's the cold harsh reality of the OW. It's nasty, selfish and self serving.

Wintersnow17 · 07/05/2018 09:58

QueenifIce - totally agree, if you're unhappy sort it out one way or another, don't involve a third party, that is cowardly.

SandyY2K · 07/05/2018 19:02

@TooSassy

Your post at 9:25am is excellent.

I especially liked this part.

I told him not to call me ever again, not until he had made the decision that leaving her was what he wanted to do for him. Had moved out. Started divorce proceedings and been separated for at least a year. If I was still single at that point then we could talk but that it was unlikely I would be. I then hung up.

Too many of the men in affairs have a character flaw. They are too weak, conflict avoidant and cowardly to
don't have the gumption to leave a relationship they aren't happy in. Many will stay miserable.

Wintersnow17 · 07/05/2018 20:57

Sandyy2K- you're right, I like the term conflict avoidant , it describes my DP exactly, the whole of our relationship he avoided conflict ( minor disagreements) and if he was unhappy or didn't agree about something couldn't tell me, if he had our story would be different. We might not be together, but it would be in a different way. He had an affair instead.
What I don't understand is why we can't blame the OW- she knew he was with someone else, she was sneaking about with him- he was going on holiday and doing things with me but she was meeting him. What sort of person does that? It's such a deceitful , duplicitous way to behave. Then trading their happiness for your misery. I know he's the chief culprit, But how do you live knowing you're making someone else utterly miserable?

flowermug2 · 09/05/2018 09:03

Will he admit he cheated on their mum with you when they are older? How do you think they would feel if they found that out?

T2705 · 10/05/2018 10:00

I think maybe a lot of women were not necessarily the OW but got together with their new partners fairly soon after a break up which is what happened to me with DP.

I wasnt the OW but am treated like I was, a lot of people don't believe that I was not because of how quickly we started seeing each other after his split but we knew that there was the potential for that to happen and we accepted it. It hasn't been the easiest start to a relationship but its just how its worked out. I knew him whilst he was still married and we were genuinely just friends - I never thought for a moment there would ever be any more to it.

Rightly or wrongly people quite often mentally leave a relationship long before they physically leave which in my opinion, is why some are ready for a new relationship in what seems like an obscenely short period of time.

takeittakeit · 10/05/2018 17:05

Op - the decision for one party might be right for them but for the other it is usually forced on they have no say, no choice and may not even want it - there is the crux of it.

One person does something for themself but the implications on the other half are never really appreciated by the person instigating the split.
T2705 - has it right, the splitter is further down the road, have given themselves time and thought and worked things out then the other side is often years behind but expected to deal with the crash and accept in a phenomenally short space of time. The lack of respect for the unsuspecting is a big issue.
To then find someone,"taking over" their life in a matter of days/weeks - is extremely hard to deal with. MY EX left at 1000 and at 1600 the same day phoned me to say he and X were coming round to see the DCS - no question, no option and no time for preparation.

takeittakeit · 10/05/2018 17:06

sorry that should read OW not X.!

NightAndShiningArmour · 16/05/2018 15:24

T2705 is indeed right - no matter the length of time after a split, I think if you're the next partner it will be assumed that you were the OW.

My OH had been split from his ExW for probably more than 18 months before we officially got together. When I met her some 3 months after that, she still yelled at me for taking her husband Hmm

And i suspect many posters don't drop in that they were the OW because it has bugger all to do with that they're discussing.

swingofthings · 16/05/2018 16:31

My OH had been split from his ExW for probably more than 18 months before we officially got together.
That in itself would indeed raise eyebrows. What do you mean by 'officially'? It implies that you were together before, just unofficially, so what secretly? For how long?

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