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help! my partners ex is trying to rule my life.

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red3112 · 04/04/2016 16:39

My partner has two children who stay with us from Friday to Sunday and when their mother decides that he should have them throughout the week. My partner is ill and unable to work at the moment and is not intitled to any benefits as I work full time. I provide everything for the children while they are at ours. Their mother has been more than happy to let me do this. All I ask is that my partner drive me to work and back. I don't think it's a lot considering my wages pay for everything. No the children mum had decided that he isn't allowed to take the children in his car, which means I have to use public transport. This is going to cost me £40 if not more and I can't afford this added expenses. I've already given up all of the things I that I can so that we can afford to pay for all our bill , food ect. I was wondering if I could insist that she provide food ect for the children when the stay with us? I need to know where I stand legally. I'm at my wits end. She says that I don't count, it is only her and her children that should matter. I really want to reply we if that is the case then my money doesn't matter either but want to check this out before I do. I don't want to give her any thing to use against us with this. Someone please help me before she ruins my life any more! !!!

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notarehearsal · 04/04/2016 19:02

Sorry if I'm missing the point but why can't your dp claim sickness benefit in his own right ( ESA) Didn't know that was based on a partner's earnings, in fact I'm sure it's not

FantasticButtocks · 04/04/2016 19:23

Perhaps DP should just ignore his ex's rule about the car and just do things the way he thinks they should be done. He is their father and has as much say in their welfare as she does.

Are you actually paying her his child maintenance payments? Because if so, I must say that I certainly wouldn't be, it just isn't your responsibility.

No, don't charge her for their food, just stop paying any money to her, it's not your responsibility.

I'm sorry he's unwell and probably not really fit to deal with this, but I think you need to have boundaries about what you will and won't do or provide. ALL of this should be between your dp and his ex.

neonrainbow · 04/04/2016 19:37

I wouldn't be paying the spiteful cow any maintenance either. IIf she was playing fair then ok but she's not. She's pushing all your buttons and stressing you out.

LeaLeander · 04/04/2016 19:42

I would be disengaging and moving to my own place. It is for your partner to figure out how to support his children and to deal with his ex-spouse and co-parent. Why are you providing a home and financial support for this group at the expense of your own financial security? Would any of them do the same for you if the tables were turned?

Without you as a crutch, he would have to figure out something, wouldn't he? Regarding his kids and his ability to earn a living, none of which are your responsibility. Why not step back and let them all sort it out?

And learn to drive.

red3112 · 04/04/2016 22:10

The depression is under control at the moment and the od's were over 3 years ago. The anxiety is the one thing that he often finds hardest to cope with . Lawyers appointment has now been made. Hopefully this will bring this all to an end and we can get back to living our lives without interference.

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red3112 · 04/04/2016 23:20

If I don't live with him he'd be intitled to esa and could use that. I know for a fact if the tables were turned he do the same for me.

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Bananasinpyjamas1 · 04/04/2016 23:41

My partner has two children who stay with us from Friday to Sunday and when their mother decides that he should have them throughout the week.
So most of the time then? If you have prime residency then she should be paying you maintenance.

Either way it's nothing to do with her if they are in the car or not - and why is she expecting the father who is ill to do majority care?

Wdigin2this · 05/04/2016 00:10

To be honest Red, I can't really see what, if anything, you're getting out of this relationship?

Your Dp doesn't work, but still has his DC each Saturday, (presumably o/night) , you are providing everything for them...are you also cooking, cleaning and washing for them, on top of your own f/t job. The e/w is dictating terms about what your DP can and can't do....and you didn't really tell us whether he is medically and legally fit to drive, so it's sounds iffy!

I'm thinking you'd be better of, getting yourself out of this, and finding yourself a nice guy without kids!

FantasticButtocks · 05/04/2016 00:15

I know for a fact if the tables were turned he do the same for me. He is a nice guy. But he has depression and anxiety and the op loves him and is helping him.

red3112 · 05/04/2016 00:16

She always claims she has them the rest of the time we've tried to point out he has them more than her but she always denies it.

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red3112 · 05/04/2016 00:19

He is medically fit to drive. He does most of the house work, he appreciates what I do for him and the children. He's not my problem it is his ex being unreasonable.

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CodyKing · 05/04/2016 00:23

He's not my problem it is his ex being unreasonable

he is your problem - because he needs to step up and deal with it!

Keep track of days - money spent etc

Let him sort it and back off

Penguinepenguins · 05/04/2016 01:12

Hi OP, sending Flowers as I think you have had a bit of a rough ride from some people on here and it's obvious to me that you care very much about your partner and his children and that you were just looking for a bit of support and advice. Flowers

if there is no medical reason for your DP not to drive then there really is nothing the children's mother can say about it whilst they are in their fathers court ordered custody, and no you shouldn't have to pay £40 a week on public transport when he has a car that he can drive you and children about it. (Nor should you suddenly learn to drive if you don't want too, not everybody can or even wants to drive)

Wishing you good luck with your lawyer, keep your chin up I'm sure it will get easier on you soon Smile

MiscellaneousAssortment · 05/04/2016 02:08

Good luck with the lawyer.

wheresthel1ght · 05/04/2016 06:43

Glad you have made an appointment to see a solicitor!

I would start documenting (and back date if you can) all the days/nights you have your dscs so you have documented evidence of him being the primary cater. Also make sure you document the cost of everything you give her and any actual monies you hand over.

MeridianB · 05/04/2016 09:27

"She has made him sign a contract agreeing to do what she says."
Is this a court order? Why is there an issue about him driving them? How does he collect them/drop off?

Have you taken legal advice? Does he (do you) pay maintenance?

Wdigin2this · 05/04/2016 09:39

I didn't intend to give Red a rough ride, apologies if it seemed that way! My point was that she doesn't seem to be getting a lot out of the relationship, but is putting a lot in!

I think I'd firstly get medical evidence that there's no reason he shouldn't drive his DC...or anyone else! Secondly I'd keep a strict log of when the children are with you, and exactly what you spend on them. Thirdly, I would check out the benefits situation again, if he's having his DC to stay so often, surely there must be a way of getting some money to help keep them?

Lastly, I think you're wise to get some legal advice, because if she is working and only has the DC half of the time, she may have to pay your DP maintenance, (don't actually know much about this, but you never know)! Oh, and you do count, very much...without you DC could probably not spend time with their dad!

Penguinepenguins · 05/04/2016 09:56

Sorry if you thought that was at you Widgen :) not at all! good advise from you as usual :) I agree OP is also having a tough time at home not easy for anyone with children let alone step children, which has an entirely different set of complications and rules generally speaking.

I do hope the OP does return to read the supportive comments X

I just really felt for the OP after some of the comments, like "well these children are such an inconvenience" and the general questions interrogations about her driving, the usual very unhelpful ones which I think as an OP can frustrate and upset and it does drive me slightly nuts when someone just wants some help...

3rdrockfromthesun · 18/04/2016 21:30

Do you claim working tax credit? You might be entitled to it especially if your DP has not worked since last tax year. With the extra money you might be able to afford the lessons or the extra transport costs

peggyundercrackers · 18/04/2016 22:06

Just ignore the ex and do what you want to do - they can't tell you or your adap how to live your life or what to do. If you have them more than 3 nights a week stop paying her anything - she can say what she wants but it doesn't mean anyone believes her.

You both need to be much stronger and start standing up for yourself, she is running rings around you.

Why do so many exs, who seem to be woman, use the children and access to be nasty?

Wdigin2this · 19/04/2016 08:13

Penguine understood, I hope the OP comes back too!

swingofthings · 19/04/2016 10:00

I can so sympathise with the ex as I found myself in the same position than her and it is horrible. My ex got his driving licence late, drove very rarely so gained very little experience and yet drove like a complete over-confident idiot. I used to be feel sick with worry when he picked them up, and then sped up like a maniac, probably making a point.

He too had suffered from depression and threatened to end his life a few times. When I read on the news shortly after that that a father and two children had been found dead in a car after their dad had asphyxiated them with him during a visit, I started having serious anxiety attacks when they were with him.

Then he too had an accident, and tried to minimise it, insisting over and over that it wasn't his fault even though the evidence indicated differently. So yes, at this stage, I told him I couldn't continue with the sickness I felt every time they were with him and said I would rather he didn't drive them. He went berserk, but thankfully for me, his -very old- car broke down and he didn't have the money to replace it. I never felt so relieved in my life.

They are now teenagers and have very few reasons to be in his car as they never do anything, but I still get nervous when they do and feel grateful when they come back safe. I remind myself that it is not too far away when they will be driving themselves and I won't be able to do anything about it.

In the end, if she is feeling as anxious about it as I was, she could decide not to late them go at all if he refused to abide to her request. He would then need to go to court and she could very well have a case. I totally understand your frustration though because ultimately, it is not you she is worried about. I personally would hurry to learn to drive.

barcelosthehappychicken · 26/04/2016 12:13

It's a difficult situation and you have my sympathies op.

On one hand if you accept I guess apart from the expense involved you open the door to her adjusting all agreements in the future in accordance to her wishes. Whether rational or not.

If he is paying the monthly maintenance as agreed and you are paying for extra things then you'll have to stop it reduce those to cover the additional costs of travel expenses to meet her wishes. Does she understand this?

Can you see a solictor to prove that your DP is fit to drive?

OutToGetYou · 29/04/2016 19:37

OK, if you weren't with him you'd need to get to work somehow, by public transport, so put your work needs first - you having work problems is only going to make everything worse.

Having taken that $40 ([sorry no GBP symbol on laptop] pm, pw?) from your income you have to live on what is left. You can feed yourself, dp and the kids when they visit. But you cannot make donations for clothes/uniform/school trips. End of story.

It is your DP's responsibility to pay for his children's upkeep, not yours. So, when they are there, like a decent human being, you feed them. But you don't go further than that. The ex just has to be told dp has no money. If he didn't live with you he wouldn't have any either.

Meanwhile, your dp needs to get onto why he isn't claiming incapacity benefit (it's not called that any more, whatever it is called) - if he can't work due to ill health he can claim this and I don't think it is dependent on your income, he needs to look into this. If he is still 'employed' but run out of sick pay he can still claim, he needs to speak to his employer (I think there is a form they have to fill in to say they are no longer paying him). If he can't work at all and had a decent job it may be that his employer has a good pension which has ill health retirement options.

Or, is there some other job he could do to bring in some money - something basic and non-stressful? he really can't live on thin air and he can't expect you to support him and his children, so he needs to either sort out benefits or find a job of some sort.

Redken24 · 30/04/2016 08:54

Hello Red,

You have no financial obligation to your partners children - If there was a CMS plan in place, then they would take money from your partners benefits for his children.
I think you are doing the right thing going to court, and if your partner is on benefits - He may be able to claim for legal aid.
Letters from lawyers do not mean anything to be honest from my own experience. Its a time/money wasting exercise and the ex will probably not hold to the letter she has "agreed to". A court order from a sherrif means she has to uphold contact for the kids otherwise you can just take her back to court and let them deal with her. Its always a difficult sitation but when you are starting to feel the strain of supporting everyone you should take a step back and see if it helps.

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