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Struggling with step parenting

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natalie49 · 02/08/2013 15:20

Hi, I am brand new to the site, and this is my first post. I visited mumsnet to see whether anybody else had similar problems to me with regards to step parenting and associated struggles. Of course you do!

This is my story (bear with me as I am not familiar with the shortcuts you use to describe relationships etc).

I have been with my husband for 9 years, married for 4.5 years. He came with baggage, 3 kids (13, 8 and 6 back in 2004) and in the throes of a messy divorce, but we survived his angst and financial pressures of getting divorced, and the kids lived with his Ex, which meant that we could get on with our own lives to a degree. He saw the kids on an adhoc basis, but he always kept a good level of contact with them, and we had them to stay occasionally.

Time has moved on of course, but not for the better. Ex wife has mental health problems which did not initially get diagnosed when the kids remained in her custody. Last year she proclaimed that she could no longer look after the 2 remaining kids in her care, social services got involved, and we were left with no option to house the 2 now teens, girl who is now 17.5, and boy is nearly 16.

I have never been a biological mother, and have found the past few months extremely hard, adjusting to having 2 moody teens in our house full time, and it is not a large house. We had to convert a double room into 2 single rooms just to accommodate them, which has cost us an arm and a leg. I really resent having them here, particularly now it is the school holidays, and am wishing the years away. SD in particular is very 2 faced and thinks she knows everything. I have been seeing a counsellor recently as I need to channel my anger and pent up frustration, as it was beginning to affect a previously rock solid marriage. I could write loads more, but really am just after a bit of advice on how to cope with this intrusion of space, lack of privacy and most of all TEENAGERS! Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
SquidgyMummy · 14/08/2013 17:08

Hi OP,

i do feel for you, i have 2 DSC, they were 7 & 12 when DP and I got together, over 5 years ago. It was very tough, and they lived in the UK, whilst we live in (funnily enough) SW France.

We have since had DS who is now almost 3, so becoming a mother did change my perspective towards them, as i had an admittedly self-indulgent single life till i met DP aged 37 and had DS at 40. Now i just let DP do his thing with them. They are here at the moment and DS has just been hanging out with them, whilst i have been on day trips with DS and another friend with toddlers who is camping in our field. Everyone doing their own thing, everyone is happy.

I digress however....

Given your DSC's ages, what i sincerely think could work for you as a family would be, if you could afford it, for your DH to either rent a house closer to their circle of friends for a year, so that he can deal with parenting them his way. Let him make his own mistakes and let them have time to bond and heal.

They are old enough to be left on their own a night or 2 each week so you could be together with just your DH. Then you can go over to them or they can come over and you all spend time as a family when some of the heat has been taken out of this situation....

It is not ideal, but it is only a couple of years and given what the kids have been through with their mother, a couple of years of support from their father (without having to worry about upsetting you too) could well help change their behaviour.

It may seem drastic, but surely it is better than potentially splitting from your husband through all the stress of this upheaval. They will be making their own in the world in a year or two and i think a bit of sacrifice now could really save your sanity.

natalie49 · 14/08/2013 18:12

Hi SquidgyMummy

Thanks for your feedback. There are lots of things I could comment on, but no, I would not want to be without my DH living in another house, besides we can not afford to do that. SD is hoping to go university next year, away from our locality, so I am waiting for that to happen, as she has the temper of her mother, and bulimic with it, a stroppy little madam who makes my blood boil.

As you will know, SW France is a lovely place, and today DH and i have had our own day, eating at a bistro on the port waterfront, walking the dogs who also love swimming, and buying local produce for supper. What have the teens done?? Spend all day in their bedrooms, we might have just left them in England! I find them so boring and unimaginative. A lot of that comes from their mother, who rarely gets her backside out of bed. This is the frst day of the holiday that I can say DH and I have had fun in our own way. The kids are so damn boring. They fly back without us on Monday - thank god, a week on our own.

OP posts:
natalie49 · 14/08/2013 18:19

Oh and they hog the kitchen, fridge, kettle, food in general, they are always in the way of the fridge etc, and it drives me mad, as they expect food and drink on tap without so much as a thanks. Move forward 2-3 years, I will be happy again. I do love my DH and want to stay with him, but I didnt ask to look after his sulky kids. Perhaps, when they were younger it would have been easier, but now they are teens and think they know it all, it is ure crap believe me.

OP posts:
SquidgyMummy · 14/08/2013 18:34

Well my DSS (only 12) spends most days glued to his Ipad, so i know what you mean! However DSD (now 17) is great and even babysat 3 toddlers whilst my friend and i escaped for a quick drink last night.

Look, it's only a year, just recite the parenting mantra "this too shall pass". I know they are not your bio children and it is unexpected, but they are part of your DP's "package".

Perhaps as a way of getting a bit of "breathing space" from them would you be able to rent some office space for your business for a while? I used to work in start up companies back in the day and we often did that and it was quite was quite fun! .

Anyway keep posting if you need to vent. Sounds like you are somewhere on the atlantic coast, we are in the Dordogne so can't even offer you a Wine to take the edge off!

underdoggy · 14/08/2013 19:26

Natalie we could all fill pages with the annoying things teens do, yours aren't any different to anyone else's.

You are in a position of responsibility towards them, by dint of being married to their father. They will dislike you for this attitude and it will come back to you in the future like an emotional boomerang. It will not all be over in 2-3 years, and you are kidding yourself if you think it will. They will be home for holidays, then may want to live at home while they find work, and your DH may want to support them. FOR YEARS. This is a problem you need to work on.

If they leave a mess in the kitchen, make them come and clean it up. Learn to tune out some of the things they say and ask them about their lives. Level with them.

I notice you have only replied to and thanked the poster who sympathised with you. I too am trying to help. My teen is away this week and I am very happy with the freedom, DH and I are close and everything is nicer. Believe me, I get this. But that does not stop me trying to be absolutely the best mother I can be to him, to make him feel a part of our family, because he is. THese children are a part of your family, live with it.

Ledkr · 14/08/2013 20:37

I think that life could be more pleasant if you did try to improve things.
Have you read up on teenagers because its interesting and I find it quite empowering.
Mine also do everything you say (and more) but you sound as if you are picking on everything they do which is horrible for them.
I actually think your dh is a bit spineless for not telling you to be nicer to his kids tbh.
You also mention their poor mother quite often in a negative way. People can't help having mental health problems you know and she's no more responsible for the children than your husband is.

brdgrl · 14/08/2013 22:13

The OP is posting precisely because she understands that change is needed. The assumption that SHE must be the one to change (or leave) is the problem. I suspect she has already changed - in fact, reading her OP, she has already made some enormous compromises. And yes, she will probably make more. Her husband and, yes, the stepchildren also need to change.

As for leaving the relationship...I entered into my marriage intending it to be for life. We have a DD together as well. If I leave the marriage, it has negative repercussions for my own child as well as my stepchildren. For those reasons, I would prefer to work on our problems than leave. The OP is trying to work on the problems in her marriage.

cyburbia · 15/08/2013 08:53

But you do need to change, if you bring children into your family and that change inevitably starts with the parents. You set down rules, out of self-preservation, and you work towards enforcing them while at the same time building bridges between you. Not just rant about how much you loathe their very presence.

It also concerns me that the OP speaks with vitriol about a young woman who has bulimia.

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 09:52

The Op is not 'just ranting'. Read her bloody posts!
On here, she is ranting. That's sort of the point.

cyburbia · 15/08/2013 10:34

I mean ranting on here Hmm. I have read her posts. I am trying to be constructive because I have been in a very similar situation myself.

Ledkr · 15/08/2013 10:58

brdgirl you always speak much sense on these boards and I can understand your defence of others in similar situations but you can't possibly read the ops posts and not feel a bit sad for the "hated" children who have already been through so much and now have to live with someone who resents them.
It's a Shame and its not helping anyone.
Of course marriage is for life which is why if you marry someone with children you need to take into account that they will be around in some shake or form.
Me and my dh have had my four around since we met.
We've never had a holiday alone or even a weekend, we don't get lie ins or peaceful meals together or the house to ourselves. Of course that's not ideal but that's how it is and we just get on with it.

ImNotBloody14 · 15/08/2013 11:17
Shock
Ledkr · 15/08/2013 12:33

For whom?

ImNotBloody14 · 15/08/2013 12:35

op

fackinell · 15/08/2013 12:37

Natalie, you do have my sympathies. I have been with DP for two years and he has a DD aged 16 who we see twice a wk with one sleepover. It was really fraught in the beginning as she really resented me being around. We are fine now but I would still probably struggle if she came to stay FT.

It's very easy to put up with a refusal to do any chores and put up with shit tv (amongst other teenage loveliness) for one day a week. I have no DC of my own either although have had one MC and still trying.

Do you have space to make a place away from it all for yourself? A room or even part of your bedroom where you can have a sofa and a tv or something?

You will find on here that as a stepmum you can do no right by some. You just have to look at Disney movies to see how we are thought of!! Grin

A tip that worked for me re the I Know Everything Teen (although with another teen and not DSD, who is actually quite quiet ATM) was just to say 'that's nice, dear' in a dismissive manner if what she said was a load of bollocks. I'd have an interesting debate with her if it was factually correct as I was aware she was testing out her social skills. But I was not about to be informed I could not be a true chilli peppers fan if mother's milk was not my fav album, etc. A that's nice, dear shut her up pretty quickly as she couldn't argue if I wasn't and knew my subtext was, 'you are talking out of your arse.'

Another thing I've learned was to pick
my battles. Everything may be annoying to you but you'll be taken more seriously if you choose one a week rather than one a day.
Also, you're right. it WILL get easier!!

My DSD took a lot of work to get used to my ways but we bonded over our mutual disgust for Dad's snoring/farting/shit choice of programmes so maybe a bit of friendly ganging up on Dad could work. My DSD now chooses to be around me at family functions and treats me as security and a confidant.

I spend a lot of time building her confidence, noticing new clothes, being interested in her career plans and yes, she can be a total PITA at times. little things like leaving her a magazine I've read, giving her a voucher I wouldn't get round to using (of course I'd use £20 in Boots but I knew she'd get a kick out of new makeup.) I've noticed the more loving I act towards her the more loving I feel.

She actually told me she loved me recently and I was surprised how much that meant to me (I say it to her occasionally without expecting a return.) Teems can be annoying, unpleasant, ungrateful and lazy, but they're our bundle of hormones (as stepmums) too. It's not them and us, it's all of us. This attitude worked for me anyway. Keep posting, we are all here for you. Grin

Ledkr · 15/08/2013 12:48

fack how lovely, well done xx
Dh has had a hard time from my dd but is sticking with it and uses humour a lot. The last few weeks I can really see an improvement. Your post will spur him on.
I need to repeat that a mother is not any more responsible for chikdren than the father.
If one person is not able to cope then the other parent needs to step up. Simple as that.

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 12:51

Ledkr, I do think it's sad, and I want to see OP find ways to get through it that make the whole family stronger. I do feel for the kids - but I also feel for the OP. (I also don't think that her "being nicer" or buying gifts for the kids and overlooking their behaviour is the right way to create a healthy family unit, so I think she's been given some duff advice - but that's another point.) I think she's hurting. She's had a radical change in her living circumstances, one that while it may have always been a possibility, was not 'what she signed up for'. In theory, we all know that an accident for our DH could turn us into a carer overnight, or that we could lose our job and our home, or that our aging parent could end up needing to move in with us. But when any of those things happen, it can be catastrophic and stressful and extremely unpleasant - especially if one is not given much power to handle the fall-out! Imagine an OP writing to say that her MIL has had to move in, that she is difficult and moody, and that the DH won't speak to her about her behaviour. There will be those who say, "well, it's your husband's mother, suck it up", as well as those who say "well, MIL's are awful, what do you expect, change your attitude", and also those who say "poor you, that must be awful, she sounds a right pain in the ass - let's find some strategies to help you cope! And by the way, what the hell is your DH doing about it?"

OF COURSE kids are different and OF COURSE the father's responsibility is absolute - - but I can't fault the OP for being upset about it and having feelings about it....feelings which any one of us is capable of.

If she feels 'hate' and resentment, what would you have her do about it? I'd be the first to say that - for the sake of everyone in that family - she needs to find ways to manage those feelings. And she needs to consider her actions towards vulnerable children. But she's not wrong to feel as she does, any more than a poster who hates her demanding, hostile, bitter MIL on another board.

Ranting and venting is good. As stepmums, we often don't have anyone 'IRL' who will listen to us, or have the first inkling of what we're coping with at home. Even good friends aren't always helpful...I don't know ONE other person 'IRL' who is in my situation - my DH's sister was once, though, and she is a fantastic support to me - but she lives far away, I see her twice a year, and then - she's my DH's sister, so I can't always rant to her! There is a higher rate of depression amongst stepmums than non-stepmums - I truly believe that the isolation and the sense of constant judgement and shifting goalposts contribute greatly to that. These are support boards...support. That's what the OP needs. Good advice about how to change the dynamic that is making her so miserable. I think the fact that she's here, asking us all for help, is a clear sign that she's not unwilling to learn/adapt...but she also, quite rightly, feels put upon and angry with her DH.

We've never had a holiday alone or even a weekend, we don't get lie ins or peaceful meals together or the house to ourselves.

See, I don't think that is the "natural" or "normal" way to be and that a person is wrong to object to that situation! Don't misunderstand me - I am not saying that you are "abnormal" or putting you down for it. But my DH and I don't live that way, and wouldn't, and that doesn't make us "abnormal" either. We've had trips and weekends away (as we have a toddler as well as the teens, not as many of those as I'd like...), we have 'date nights' where we eat a meal separately from the kids and they're told to leave us to it. We have absolutely no family here and are pretty broke - so we do struggle a bit with childcare - we aren't able to go out as much as we'd like, and we need to make date nights at home or just share a beer in the garden, instead of dinner and the cinema or drinks in a pub!

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 12:54

Good post, fack...I second the suggestion of 'ganging up' on DH in a light-hearted way :)

There is a degree of 'fake it until you make it' required...but you have to be careful not to fake it so much you are crushing yourself.

Ledkr · 15/08/2013 13:13

Of course we do nice things together and have nice meals in etc but I meant the type of things that people generally do at the start of a relationship of if there are no children involved.
Dh was single and childless and could have chosen to marry someone conventional with no kids but he didn't.
I have re read the ops posts and I'm sorry but some of it is plain nasty.
Described a fellow female as "sluttish" not acceptable.
Made light of her bulemia, vile sorry.
Admitted to saying stuff about their mother being useless and so they have to have them!
Saying someone who has mental health problems is useless and when she used to book into loony retreats the chikdren were dumped on them! Hmm
The op doesn't actually sound very nice as a human being so its hard to sympathise with her much.
A lot if what has been said to the children could be described as emotional abuse.

fackinell · 15/08/2013 13:20

Guys, sorry if I made it seem like I'm sweetening DSD with gifts. I'm honestly not and also I reiterate Brdgrl's comment about not 'buying' children!

Apart from the voucher and token gifts from holiday, I've only ever given her £20, and that was to pay for Dad's birthday tea when he jokingly said he hoped she brought her purse. It was a jokey two fingers up at Dad moment and when she produced it I insisted on 'paying' for my own and she get her and DP's. the shock on his face and having a little secret with her was worth the new dress I want in Peacocks. Grin

It's definitely the little things, like sticking up for her flattering new highlights when DP asks if a bird shat on her head. I would have missed so much of this funny, annoying young woman if I'd not made a humongous effort. Trust me, there were moments when I could barely keep my mouth shut when she screamed how much she hated HER (me) being there. I got on amazingly with my stepmum and still do. I knew it wouldn't be a picnic actually being one though.

Ledkr · 15/08/2013 13:24

Well if a few small tokens got you where you are then who gives a flying.
Still sounds successful.

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 13:34

I really do agree with you about the 'sluttish' and 'looney' remarks being off. But I think when I read it, my reaction was more "wow, she's really angry" not that she isn't a nice human being. I think the key thing is that she's having a rant.

A lot if what has been said to the children could be described as emotional abuse.
Ah. I think we are understanding this completely differently. I don't think the OP is saying things here, that she can't (or so that she doesn't!) say them to the kids. I don't see anywhere in her posts where she has said or done anything 'nasty' to the kids.

Do you mean this?
When I get angry - at least once a day - I end up blaming their mother for being so useless and dumping them on us.
I really didn't take that as meaning that she said it to the kids. I rather thought she meant either in her own mind or to her DH.
Apart from that, she doesn't say anything about things she has said or done to the kids which I find 'nasty'. The suncream remark doesn't ring any alarm bells with me, frankly, and mostly she seems to be rowing with her DH about things, not with the kids themselves. She's tired of being the 'bad cop', she says - well, that is fair enough - she ought to be able to reprimand the kids or tell them something is not acceptable if it isn't, and meanwhile her DH is just saying that doesn't want to be an authority figure with them.

Ledkr · 15/08/2013 13:37

Well I did read it as that buy I apologise to op if that's wrong.
I was the sd of a nice but disinterested step dad and I also work with troubled adopted teens so I see first hand the damage that can be done and it just makes me sad.

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 13:38

fack, Sorry, I wasn't meaning you at all (I hadn't even read your post yet when I wrote that, bit of a crosspost) - I was referring to a post way upthread...for what it's worth, I often give presents to my DSCs, I just meant it's not good as a strategy for 'getting in good; with sulky teens. :)

brdgrl · 15/08/2013 13:40

Maybe she did, Ledkr - I just know how often I think things I would never ever say to the DSCs, so I suppose I see it that way.