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EURO 24 PART 4 ...

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DBSFstupid · 14/07/2024 22:29

Commeserations...

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DuncinToffee · 15/07/2024 09:22

Southgate not making changes has definitely been the frustration on these threads (and the tv commentators)

I have seen the Klopp suggestions as well

Oblomov24 · 15/07/2024 10:06

@DuncinToffee
Thanks for setting up all the previous threads. I enjoyed painfully watched the ride!

YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 15/07/2024 10:38

Ooh, I came second in the Mumsnet league.

I'm not entirely sure how, as I kept forgetting to make my substitutions and transfers...

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 15/07/2024 10:47

It's not coming home then, but it would be nice if it could pop in for a cup of tea occasionally.

And a biscuit.

maudelovesharold · 15/07/2024 10:59

What do they do that we don’t? Is it that they’re better at grass roots? Do they train their talented youngsters to a higher standard? Do they have more intelligent and skilful junior coaches?

They have a very strong academy set up. I mentioned in another thread that I heard someone say during the coverage that Yamal has been with Barcelona from 7, and at the boarding training school from 12.
Do other national teams play/train together more than England? Spain seemed to have a freer flow between their players, whereas we were a bit disjointed.

coastergirl · 15/07/2024 11:05

Ooh I came 3rd. Also kept forgetting to change so I'm pleased with that.

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 11:05

No surprise, Gareth Southgate has announced he is to leave his role as England manager

the80sweregreat · 16/07/2024 11:23

I feel for whoever takes over from Gareth.
A lot of pressure on them

Maggiethecat · 16/07/2024 11:28

More pressure than being the new PM!

Oblomov24 · 16/07/2024 11:51

Gareth resigns.

the80sweregreat · 16/07/2024 12:16

Lots of pressure in these types of jobs. I couldn't do any of them.
Doesn't help that everyone else thinks they can do much better ( from their armchairs most of the time!)
The huge salary doesn't really make up for the stress either I bet.

burblish · 16/07/2024 12:48

I don't think anyone is really surprised by the news. I don't think Gareth Southgate has the tactical nous to bring out the best of the extremely talented England squad. However, the way he has changed the whole culture of playing for England is simply incredible. The whole perception of what it means to play for England has completely changed.

I also have a huge amount of respect for how he conducts himself both personally and professionally. Whether you agree with his decisions and reasoning (and I certainly have not always done so), he always comes across as a thoroughly decent, thoughtful and dignified man who really cares about the job and the players. It's such an English thing that the level of personal vitriol he faced escalated with the level of success the team had. Chucking beer at the man at the end of matches was utterly reprehensible. No doubt that fed into his decision to step down.

A more tactically savvy and attack-minded manager could take England to the next level. But you have to wonder - with the kind of abuse that the fans and media alike will hurl at you, who the hell would fancy it? Remember, in the days before Southgate, we were reduced to the likes of Steve McLaren and Big Sam, because no elite level manager would touch the England job with a bargepole.

AndNobbyDancing · 16/07/2024 12:50

Agree @the80sweregreat even on MN the level of criticism and attack were frankly astonishing as were the lengthy posts from armchair fans listing where it all went wrong.

Also the criticism from people like Linekar, none of whom achieved what Southgate has.

Poisoned Chalice.

AndNobbyDancing · 16/07/2024 12:53

Agree @burblish why would anyone capable want to take it on. You don't have the freedom to buy players you want, you don't have time to play together, and now fans are used to progressing. Only winning the World Cup is enough to secure your future.

Maggiethecat · 16/07/2024 14:50

the80sweregreat · 16/07/2024 12:16

Lots of pressure in these types of jobs. I couldn't do any of them.
Doesn't help that everyone else thinks they can do much better ( from their armchairs most of the time!)
The huge salary doesn't really make up for the stress either I bet.

Pressure? What pressure? Pressure is for tyres 😂

couldn’t resist, Shearer will be doing an advert soon no doubt

BirthdayRainbow · 16/07/2024 18:18

I'm watching the Women's England v Sweden match and can't help feeling they are better than the men.

BirthdayRainbow · 16/07/2024 18:24

gleefulstar · 14/07/2024 23:09

Have to start off by saying I LOVE Pickford, I ready do.

But why they fuck all the long passes??? Not one reached an English player in the first half. Not one!!! He had Stones literally telling him to pass it to him and he didn't. Then he had Watkins in the second half saying "give it to me!" And he still didn't. Just pisses me off. 30% possession in first half and when we did have the ball we just kept giving it away. Not just Pickford, all the passing was like watching a primary school B team. Can't blame Southgate for that!!

Trying to get it nearer our goal as they were playing pass backwards so much..

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 19:59

BirthdayRainbow · 16/07/2024 18:18

I'm watching the Women's England v Sweden match and can't help feeling they are better than the men.

They have qualified for the Euro 2025!

burblish · 16/07/2024 19:59

Well done to the Lionesses, who have qualified to defend their title at Euro 2025!

Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 21:00

burblish · 16/07/2024 12:48

I don't think anyone is really surprised by the news. I don't think Gareth Southgate has the tactical nous to bring out the best of the extremely talented England squad. However, the way he has changed the whole culture of playing for England is simply incredible. The whole perception of what it means to play for England has completely changed.

I also have a huge amount of respect for how he conducts himself both personally and professionally. Whether you agree with his decisions and reasoning (and I certainly have not always done so), he always comes across as a thoroughly decent, thoughtful and dignified man who really cares about the job and the players. It's such an English thing that the level of personal vitriol he faced escalated with the level of success the team had. Chucking beer at the man at the end of matches was utterly reprehensible. No doubt that fed into his decision to step down.

A more tactically savvy and attack-minded manager could take England to the next level. But you have to wonder - with the kind of abuse that the fans and media alike will hurl at you, who the hell would fancy it? Remember, in the days before Southgate, we were reduced to the likes of Steve McLaren and Big Sam, because no elite level manager would touch the England job with a bargepole.

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Thoroughly agree with this ❤️

YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 16/07/2024 22:32

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Sarina Wiegman is reportedly among the candidates to replace Gareth Southgate as England manager.

I'd be up for that!

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Arconialiving · 16/07/2024 22:38

Completely agree @Acapulco12

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 22:47

YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 16/07/2024 22:32

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Sarina Wiegman is reportedly among the candidates to replace Gareth Southgate as England manager.

I'd be up for that!

Imagine the fume on social media 😂

BirthdayRainbow · 16/07/2024 23:09

I like Sarina but don't take her from the women's team. Having said that she couldn't probably manage both!

Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 23:21

BirthdayRainbow · 16/07/2024 23:09

I like Sarina but don't take her from the women's team. Having said that she couldn't probably manage both!

Agree! Can Klopp please come and manage the men’s team?