- Can you tell us what the key message for Take Five was?
That nobody is too clever to be defrauded, and the only way to sidestep attempts is to always take a step back, and think about what you are being asked, whenever money or personal data is involved.
- Do you think having attended the event would help you identify fraud and scams in the future?
Absolutely. I was quite complacent before. I've never once refused to take a call from the bank checking anomalous expenses, for example, and apparently 95% of us are in that boat. It would never have occurred to me that someone calling with my name, the correct bank, and my address could be a fraudster - to me, fraud has been those emails telling me I've got to help some oligarch launder money in exchange for a hefty payment. In future I will always refuse to speak to anyone calling the house asking me to verify identity, and call them back using a legitimate number already in my possession. I had no idea how organised the criminals were, or how much data they would have on you before most approaches were made. Nor did I know that they could spoof texts to the degree they could insert a scam text into a legitimate thread on your phone from your actual bank. The level of professionalism and knowledge fraudsters can have was startling.
- What would you say you learnt the most about at the event?
That you should never trust any approach from any organisation made directly to you, but always call them back.
- Would you say that you know more about fraud and scams since attending the event?
Exponentially more. Because I always spot the obvious frauds, and haven't ever had eg a card cloned, I felt reasonably confident. I now feel that was dangerous, and I was actually very lucky not to be scammed before now. I would unquestionably have fallen for some of the examples given.
- Following the event, how would you describe what you’ve learnt - in a nutshell - to a friend who didn’t attend?
Become Mad-Eye Moody from Harry Potter - CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
Just kidding. I think... But what hit home most to me was that human beings instinctively trust others, and that's a good thing... but it lays us wide open to those who seek to exploit us. And as we don't spend our own lives dreaming up clever ways to steal from people, we can't always spot it when we are targeted. The only way to protect yourself is to have a blanket rule: check, check and check again, whenever handing over any data. That means online, on the phone, or in person. Make sure the website is legitimate; make sure you've called the bank yourself using your own numbers and not ones they/the message provide. Be suspicious! What's the worst that can happen? Someone may think you're a little rude. That's nothing compared to the risk of losing a very large amount of money, as well as the time and effort necessary to resolve the situation.
On a far less suspicious note... if anyone gets asked to a Mumsnet event, GO! The canapes were lovely, the wine was Berry Bros & Rudd, the manicures and massages were fab and the women doing them so, so lovely (one squeezed my mum in for an extra when she realised she wasn't well!) and the life drawing classes were a lovely extra. Though they were just hands and arms, with no naked Chris Hemsworth. You can't have everything in life, can you. I met some lovely, lovely Mumsnetters as well (apologies to the SENDCO who so patiently and kindly talked to me about educational provision... you were a total plus to my day!)
Thank you to those organising it, because it wasn't just useful info - it turned out to be a nice evening, too.