Is it just me? Spent the afternoon at a big shopping mall, trying to find a pair of school shoes for DD3 that are not fastened with velcro. As I explained to the apparently 12 year old assistant, I needed shoes with secure fastenings eg laces or buckles, so that DD3 will not remove said shoes at every opportunity, and throw the damn things out of the nearest window. But, apart from trainers, it seems that no one makes shoes with proper fastenings. As the little assistant sweetly explained to me.."most parents want their children to learn to put their own shoes on, and velcro is easier!" I don't have any such aspirations yet for DD3. I just want her to have shoes that will stay on her feet.