fio and jimjams

[emmalou78]

Don't want this to get bogged down in a n increasingly lengthy thread.

But I just wanted to say that I hope I read t wrong, and its just that thread your keeping well clear of, not the whole board. Granted I've never 'spoken' much to either of you, I still feel new round here after x many months, but I read your posts and you and a few others make this place what I think a lot of us need it to be.

So, yes, stay, don't go.

Otherwise I'll have exhausted my Mcalmont nad Butler persuasion technique

My head is hurting from trying to read Fio's posts. And now I have serious cravings for a bar of Caramac.....

Its a good job I have a small fish to translate with... or my brain would be hurting confusion Fio

Caramac, you don't need to justify yourself you have a right to think what you like, also nwher eon THIS thread does it say anyone has directly hounded anyone else off the board, if it says that on another thread, respond there.

emmalou, actually yes it does say those things on this thread (e.g. by katyrocket 9.51 yesterday). I feel no need to justify myself, but I rather think I might have the right of reply to some of the (imo rude and unfair) accusations on this thread (and others), but I think it is best if we all leave it now, as any further discussions on the matter would seem to be rather undignified.

Pedantic B*$&ard alert

It doesn't actually name names though does it?

All I wanted was for a couple of other memebers who's input, advice and opinions are welcomed nad extremely helpful to others, including myself to know how valued they are and hope that its enough to make them consider sticking around.

[that was all said with a smile btw]

Thank you to those who expressed their support for me here, by the way. And, it rather goes without saying, I (of course) have no wish for anyone to choose not to post here anymore because I posted my differing opinions to them on the thread in question. That really does go without saying I think, but just in case anyone was in any doubt.

where did I name names?
I certainly can't be arsed to get into an argument about this. It's bloody sad that jj has gone. If it was a misunderstanding then fine but it's still a huge shame.

And caramac I apologise if you thought I meant you when I said "hounded off" and I probably shouldn't have used that term anyway. I was just so fed up to hear that a thread like that has caused a much valued member of MN to delete her membership.

thank you katierocket (apologies for spelling your name wrong by the way). I am sorry too, that an exchange of opinions seems to have escalated in a way which I find it impossible to fathom. I have apologised already if I hurt anyone's feelings by posting my point of view, and I really think it is best if we let it lie now.

well Fiofio, I really do need to reply to that - I did not say that or anything of that kind. I was hurt and emotional when I read the thread title (as we have established, and for the reasons I stated - that I felt it showed a lack of empathy for someone in my position, with a SN child with many significant/life threatening health issues) and I thought it's extreme nature might give the impression of bitterness and I hated seeing it keep popping up and imagining the impression that would give to people reading these boards. And the impression it might give to the wider community about what it means to have a child/ren, which I found unfortunate. I was very emotional about it. Not eeveryone here knows you, and your sense of humour. I think perhaps it is a temptation to think you are having a conversation with a group of your friends, and maybe forget that everyone can read your conversations, and many people do.
It might be that you don't care about hurting those people's feelings, or the impression that you give - but I doubt it.

NNNNOOOOOOOO!!!

JIMJAMS is SINGLEHANDEDLY ONE whole BOLLOCK of the ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS that is mumsnet!

glad you are still around fio.

if we didn't think we were talking to friends then we wouldn't get upset when things go pear shaped, but we also wouldn't really have much investment in sustaining the community..nobody is answering threads and researching stuff for people and giving opinions except through the spirit of friendship are they?

Fiofio I absolutely understand that you in no way meant to hurt anyone's feelings. you certainly don't seem to me to be in the least bit bitter. And I am sorry if I came across as patronising - I was posting in an emotional way.
Yes I do understand it can feel like a group of friends, and that is a good thing. But what can seem supportive and friendly when you're in it, can seem quite the opposite from the outside. I was on the SN boards because I have children with SN. I was upset and hurt by the thread title and I was (as I said on the thread) a bit concerned that there seemed to be another round of complaining about how awful and unsupportive other people are and how they have no compassion. I appreciate I expressed myself in an emotional way, which probably didn't help. And I am afraid that the reactions I got were anything but supportive. I have been told (not by you, I hasten to add) that no-one could possibly be offended, that I was only looking for a row, that I was the only one who felt upset (not true, in fact, looking at the thread).
I am not saying that we should censor ourselves from having a rant, just maybe that we should remember when we do have a rant, that this is a public forum, and that others may not read your extreme examples in the way you meant them, that life is also full of positives and if you have inadvertently hurt someone's feelings, then it really doesn't hurt to apologise.

Sorry to interrupt flow of thread but Fio - have tried CATing you again.

Jimjams won't be coming back. I have spoken to her via email a few times over the last day or so and she has confirmed that her time here is finished.
A bloody damn shame if you ask me. She is part of the very fabric of Mumsnet
Mumsnet has changed a lot in the last year or so and it is terrible that people like jimjams who have helped countless people in so many ways feel they can not take part anymore.

perhaps someone could pass on good wishes to jimjams with her business venture

I'm very sorry she isn't coming back

that sux, ghosty, i'm really sad to hear that.

It does suck doesn't it expat? and zippi I will pass on your best wishes

and mine too please teh very very best wishes

Ghosty, please tell her we wish she would come back. Mumsnet is less of a community without her and we all enjoy her company very much. We all learn from each other on here and Jimjams is one of the biggest givers there is in that respect.

I am sure we all feel the same way as Marina. Please tell her how much we will miss her and ask again if she will come back?

I never really have much to post on some threads but always find Jimjams so helpful and I have learned so much from her. Please pass on our thanks for the help and information she has given and pass on our best wishes for her new venture.

please pass on to jimjams she will be missed so much on here i wish her luck with her new business and i wish the best for her and her family for the future xx