fio and jimjams

[emmalou78]

Don't want this to get bogged down in a n increasingly lengthy thread.

But I just wanted to say that I hope I read t wrong, and its just that thread your keeping well clear of, not the whole board. Granted I've never 'spoken' much to either of you, I still feel new round here after x many months, but I read your posts and you and a few others make this place what I think a lot of us need it to be.

So, yes, stay, don't go.

Otherwise I'll have exhausted my Mcalmont nad Butler persuasion technique

I didn't post on the other thread because by the time I got round to reading it others had said everything I would have. But just wanted to post here to show my support.

I think if caramac had been a regular poster and knew Fio and Jimjams she would have seen things differently. Those of us who are familiar with them knew they meant no harm and could see where they were coming from.

I don't think there was really any 'hounding' going on. But I can see how both Fio and Jimjams might be wondering why they post on mumsnet sometimes when there is bad feeling and people accusing you of being bitter etc etc. What's the point? I'd want to take a break.

Glad you are still around Fio and hope that Jimjams will reappear when/if she feels able to.

Oh JJ I do hope you will come back.
You(and others) were so helpful to me the other day on my thread about the school for autistic children.
MN would be a poorer place without you and fio.

I too would hate to see JJ go her posts on all subjects are so intelligent and helpful and MN would be a poorer place without her...

I really hope that jimjams reconsiders and comes back. She has helped so many on the SN board (myself included). I am sure 99% of us on the SN board understood where she and Fio were coming from-please dont let a tiny minority put either of you off. We all value you both!

Did I really just read that Jimjams has deleted her membership ? this is bloody outrageous. Please if anyone can persuade her back do it! and Fio and Davros don't follow suit.. I'm still lost in the dark of parenting an Autistic [its only been official 51 weeks and 1 day!]child and readign posts and being able ot ask questions of other mumsnetters who've got older children and are old hat at the preschool years is a great help and better then any monthly support group could be in terms of sanity retention...

What kind of a world has it become when you can't vent or be flippant about things without being hounded into hiding? and this is a forum, which has the benefit of relative anononimity.

this has upset me, and put an apiary worth of bees in my bonnet...

must channel anger into fundraising for preschool!

Whilst I support JJ and Fio and I don't think it was an offensive title or an offensive thread and that it was meant to be taken in a jokey fashion, I equally don't think Caramac was being deliberately unpleasant or argumentative. She just had a different point of view and then got a bit defensive because a lot of people disagreed with her and criticised her. I do feel some of her points were relevant and not unreasonable. There was a lot of support for JJ and Fio from other people on the thread and I am surprised if someone like JJ has left MN over that. I'm glad you are still around Fio.

saker I agree I hope Caramac is still arround and hasn't left

Message withdrawn

Bloody hell what is all this? Haven't been on MN for a while because of writing DS2's statement request and meanwhile obviously all hell has kicked loose. Haven't got time to read all the original thread (because I am STILL writing DS2's statement request)but have gathered that JJ has left. Very sad - she's given me a huge amount of great advice and support (as she has to others I know.) AND (she said, completely selfishly) we were supposed to be meeting up in the summer and now I can't contact her.

fio..perhaps you can encourage her back after a break?

Fio ,JJ - you heva helped me massively,please stay

damn, was just thinking about jj today b/c dd2 had her jabs and the HV is actually NOT a crack smoker!

Oh haven't read all of 'that' thread yet but have to say i love Jimjams. I really hope she hasn't gone for good, even DP knows of Jimjams with all the great advice she gives!

So glad FioFio is staying

i am deeply saddened at the thought of JJ leaving Mn over that thread.

JJ was the first person i spoke to with regards to sn and ASD (it was on that thread mentioned in the OTHER thread about the mum who thought it was ok to make the other mum cry)

it was such a releif to find someone who just understood me and what i was saying about my ds. its sounds strange i know but that hadn't happened before.
I felt acceptance and inclusion from JimJams that i hadn't had before.i had steered clear of the SN boards as i didnt think it was the place for me, that ds's problems werent severe enough to be there...having read so many threads on there i considered myself lucky he is as he is.

Jimjams has the ability to say what i think but in a way that means others can actualy undestand it. she is one of the most intelligent, knowledgabel and informative people i have "met" on here and i for one would deeply miss her if she really has left.

any news yet sphil,fio??

Please let jimjams know that we dont want her to go, i dont know her personly but what i can gather about jimjams is that she is a very head strong person,very inteligent,loving mother and we will all miss her and her words of wisdom to much.

I feel that fio and jimjams say things we all feel but dont dare to say, and they put it together a lot more better than i ever could.

Pleased to hear you are staying fio

No, I am still here Rickman. But not entirely sure what to say, if anything. I think I will have to give it some thought.
I have apologised already, for offending anyone, some days ago on the thread in question.
I am rather hurt and indeed flabberghasted by some of the comments here. In particular, that I have hounded anyone, wanted to start a row or was just trying to get under people's skin. Gracious me, I don't even know where to begin to deal with those accusations.

you dont need to justify yourself at all. you are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone.

Thanks mytwopenceworth.
Honestly, Fiofio, what kind of frisky talk is that. We barely know each other. Wash your mouth out young lady.

Well.... it IS a very nice cupboard, and ever since I got out of it, I have had my arse seriously kicked. Haard.
So you can't blame me for wanting to stay in it.

Im glad Fio is staying and i hope Jimjams comes back. You are highly thought of here. You are Mumsnets Autism fountain of knowledge an d everything you say makes sense. Even what you said earlier about childless men not knowing childrens milestones etc that is so true. I feel so relaxed when my kids are playing with their Uncle as he has no kids yet and takes them as they are as small children. Its really weird but so true, ive been thinking that before but never said it aloud. Please dont go Jimjams, you help us all so much you have no idea.

what does that actually say fio??? im a being a bit dim!!

Have just CATed you Fio but I called you Fio rather than FioFio! If you don't get it let me know and i'll do it again.