Tinsley House Support Thread Part 4!!!

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This thread is for anyone interested in the Tinsley House programme. All welcome!

A brief synopsis of stage 1 of the programme can be found in the books "is that my child?" Or "the brain food plan" by robin pauc;

Stage 1 of the TH therapy consists of:

1. Daily Multivitamins

• Omega
• Zinc & Magnesium

1. Healthy eating

• High protein, low sugar, no artificial sweeteners, additives etc.

1. Specific neuro development exercises done 3 times a day

• Takes about 4-5 mins

And that's it smile

Stage 2 involves computer programmes to sort out eye tracking and convergence which over 80% of children with reading/writing problems have.

• www.engagingeyes.co.uk

What a great thread. My only issue is that I wished I found it years ago! My 6 year old has been diagnosed with retained reflexes by a BO. I am very interested in the approaches of both TH and David Mulhall Centre - just can't decide. Has anyone got any experience of the David Mulhall Centre? It is such a mind field out there - thanks for your help.

Can't help with comparing other methods but we started TH in sept. we noticed a few changes quickly. About 8 weeks in I noticed ds was walking a much straighter and running with his feet straight out. A few weeks ago he managed to hit a cricket ball with A bat, he's never managed that before (he's 11)

His handwriting has always looked like a spider has died and he refuses point blank to write at school. He has just finished level 1 tracking and is now on B, and we are going to start Hemi tonight.

He willingly wrote his christmas cards out. His homework is optional - if he wants to do it he can. He has done all his homework off his own back in the week before Xmas, he enjoyed it so much he actually asked his science teacher for some more! Would have loved to have seen his face.

Alongside TH I have been taking him to an oestopath, he "felt" him and told me exactly what Robin had said about his brain. Robin is happy with is progress, the oestopath can "feel" it coming together. We feel as though things where getting better slowly and suddenly in the last 2 weeks he has opened a door.

Notapizza can you give me some more information about the osteopath? What do they do? How did you find them?

DD had some cranial osteopathy as a baby and if as great for her 'colic' and I have wondered about taking her back.

Thanks

I just went to an osteopath in the next village after one of my friends (ds angry, Tourette's, soiling) was going to him and he was a changed child. No accidents, calmer etc.

I took my ds to try and calm him down, we had changed school to middle school in september (just after we started TH) and the change was horrific for him and he was in perm sensory overload and angry, so decided it couldn't make it any worse. He loves going, says he feels calmer afterwards and asks when we are going back. No idea if its working but if he is feeling better then it's worth every penny.

I don't know if he would be better with just TH but if nothing else the laying down peacefully for 30 mins every few weeks is worth it.

I couldn't tell you what they do, seems some sort of magic ! They feel the muscles and patterns in your body and sort of realign them. I would describe it as acupuncture with fingers. My dh pulled his back a couple of weeks ago and he as been and he feels a lot better.

I was amazed though - a few weeks ago when we went he felt ds and asked me had he banged his head, I said no (he's a huge drama queen so would have known) he said he has he's jarred his head this way. About 20 mins later I remembered he'd fallen out of bed the week before onto that side. I had never mentioned it but he knew ......

Daft - really sorry that you've been having a tough time. I hope things are a bit calmer.

Welcome Biggles! I would recommend going to see Robin at the beginning, if possible. That way you can see where you start from and share all your worries and concerns - I went with a very long list! We started on chair and stair before moving onto the bemis - which we did for months before adding target practice from Engaging Eyes.

Hi No Stopping Me. I probably won't explain this very well, but I think that Robin believes that learning disabilities are a symptom of development delay - and that each child will present in a different way with a different combination / severity of symptoms. His belief is that by treating the development delay, you address the learning disabilities. I agree with you about it being such a different way. I just love this thread - I couldn't believe it when I stumbled upon it!

Hello Eyes - welcome too! I don't have any experience with the David Mulhall Centre, but I looked into them and Hemispheres. My first post on Special Needs was asking for advice between the two. No one responded and I made an appointment at Hemispheres before finding TH. I changed my appointment - as you say its a mine field and I was really drawn to the positive stories on here, plus the back up of the thread. Everyone on here has been very lovely and patient :)

Not A Pizza Eater - that is great to hear your good news, especially about writing the cards - it shows how far he has come in confidence/happiness as well as ability!

Really interested to hear about the AIT. I keep wondering about it. DS is doing so well that DH rolls his eyes when I mention it…

A quick update on DS. He has had an amazing term in Reception. I was so worried about his tiredness and hitting and generally how he would find it. He has done incredibly well and his teacher is very pleased with him. He stopped hitting other children in mid October (after 2.5 years of thumping) and has been making lots of friends. They describe him as happy, confident, outgoing - able to stand up and talk in assembly. He's very good at reading and doing well with his letters and numbers. Before September he showed no interest in holding a pencil or drawing etc. Last November I was a wobbling wreck as DS was causing havoc in Nursery and had tons of issues - fear of new things, loud noises, lack of eye contact, violence, falling over, sitting on people by mistake, unable to catch a ball or get dressed by himself, no friends, very naughty, peeing all over the place when angry, unable to follow instructions, crying when anything went wrong… It was quite a long list and Nursery staff thought he wouldn't be able to cope with Reception. We still have a little way to go, but I know we are going to be ok. I can't recommend the programme more highly. Our DD is 3 and has a speech delay - she is following TH too, although we haven't done as much lately as the plan from August until now has been to focus on DS. We're going to pick up with her in January again and I'm very excited about it all. Sorry to ramble on, but I think its a miracle!

Hi Prince and everyone else! Happy Christmas to everyone.

Me again - a couple of other improvements I forgot to mention. DS now likes music and singing (which he used to hate) and plays imaginatively - this has been almost the biggest joy!

PS - I still wobble!

Eyes- My DS was diagnosed with Retained Reflexes by Hemispheres and we did 6 weeks of RRT and then switched to TH. My main reason for switching were posts from Becaroo, Badvoc and Indigo who have all done long stints with RRT ( with different therapists but basically the same approach) but followed up with TH. In a nutshell, RRT is a brushing/exercise programme which aim to mature the brain and CNS by dropping the immature reflexes and allowing the postural or adult reflexes to emerge. Robin totally understands RRT but believes that you don't need to focus on the reflexes, instead by maturing the brain the reflexes drop naturally. So he treats the underlying cause of the RR rather than the reflexes themselves, if that makes sense. I think both help but I have never looked back since starting TH and have found many people who prefer TH to RRT but so far nobody who has done RRT after TH. I think the reason for that is most people are happy after TH. My two DC are 17 months into the programme and are nearly finished and I will not be looking for any other neurodevelopment therapists. The other significant reasons for choosing Robin are that the children love him and he is very supportive to parents. In the early days I was a PITA contacting him with my concerns and he was always kind and reassuring. Also, he sorts out the vision problems with Engaging Eyes whereas I think most RRT recommend Behavioural Optometry.

Hi No stopping Me- Robin absolutely believes that the symptoms of dyslexia, dyspraxia, ADD, ADHD, Tourettes etc exist. He knows they are massive problems that are blighting the childhood of our children. What he believes though is that a natural, holistic intervention which includes zinc, magnesium, B vitamins and EPA fish oils, High protein, balnced carb and no junk diet, and simple but neurologically challenging exercises can support and mature the parts of the brain that are under functioning. It is the under function that causes the developmental problems. Once the brain matures and works normally the symptoms reduce.

Ruggles- PM me about AIT. DD did it in November and DS doing it now. We are very pleased with the results in my DD. I know what you mean about the wobbles. I had the odd wobble for ages and ages but not any more. I really do believe that Robin is a genius.

If I had my time again, knowing all I know now, I would start my children on probiotics and diet first. Then introduce supplements, then do AIT and then do TH.

Thank you so much beautifulpossum for that explanation - very very helpful and useful. Thanks so much Ruffles and pizza too - much appreciated.

Thank you Ruggles and Beautiful. It all makes sense to me. If I come across a new parent with a child who has any of the DYS, ADD/ADHD, ASD etc, I shall direct them to this forum; actually to this thread. I usually give info/advice on the statementing process as it's the only option I thought was available!

not ASD

Sorry I meant Ruggles and not Ruffles! Any recommendations of which multi vitamins and mag and zinc supplement? I looked at Boots.com and could not find a mag and zinc combo. Currently using Animal Parade multi vit - no sure if that is recommended? Many thanks.

Probably not as it will have sweeteners in. We use the vegepa (buy all of these off amazon on subscribe and save so get discounts), magnesium tablets, a general b vitamin. Get zinc and vit c fom boots normally when in 3 for 2. My ds (11) just swallows tablets so its easier. He has about 8 in total which he swallows in one go (I'd be gagging) .....

If he's 6 it'll be the foradex (spelling) multi vit ....

We do a probiotic every few days (ds is coeliac so luten free already) and I buy a tablet from holland and Barrett for this.

That's great - thanks so much pizza.

Hi Biggles- yes PM me.

I was recommended biokult as a probiotic and have been very pleased with it. My DS took a different probiotic before which helped but biokult has helped more. You can buy on Amazon or boots have it on 3 for 2.

Robin recommends VEGEPA E EPA 70. He feels very strongly about using EPA and not an EPA/DHA combination. My children both take Vegepa and I will not change that. Robin recommended Floradix saludynam and Floradix Kindervital when we started the programme but later suggested a cheaper product. I think he likes the children to have the floradix supplements to start with as that is when they need it most. These floradix products contain zinc. magnesium, vitamin B complex and other good stuff. I would recommend the kinder vital fruity formula, the original is not GF and is not as good tasting.

This information is amazing - thanks Beautiful.

Eyes- You're very welcome

Hello everyone! Been an age since I've been on. Hope you all had a lovely Christmas. Welcome to the new people on the thread too. Lots of good news up thread and it's always lovely to read other people's successes.

Update on us. DS doing amazingly well. He's had a great first term at nursery and wasn't phased by the Christmas build up. He was ready for the holiday though. Very tired by end of term.

He's very very slowly starting to talk to people there. With other children, it's usually only when they encroach on his stuff and he tells them not to, but that's a massive step forward for us. He isn't chatty but he will tell his teacher if he's done a painting and ask for more paper etc. At home it's a different story, he's a real chatterbox and never shuts up! And I love it. He took so long to start talking that I hope he's always a chatterbox!

He's developing some good pretend play too, though it's still limited, IMO, by his language. He's answering questions now too. He used to just ignore people when they spoke to him. He'll even sometimes answers people he doesn't know, like in the supermarket. I feel like we've worked so so hard for every single one of these things. Things that parents normally take for granted. Even just very small, subtle changes in his speech we notice.

We skyped Robin again just before Christmas. He's very pleased with DS's progress and we've now added hemi t into the mix. So that's, stairs, chair, hemi p and hemi t. Phew! Struggling a bit with getting the music in his ear for hemi t though! Anyone else who has done it, how did you work it with the earphones? He's only (nearly) 4 so ears are small but 'in ear' earphones seem like the best idea. I have to hold it at his ear right now so I need to work on a better solution. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Happy new year!

Hi lookslikerain - we are on the same as you, stairs, spinning, hemi p and t. Dd us just 5, she hates the word search one. Us a real struggle getting her to engage and it's been nearly 4 months now. We took music away and I am just starting to reintroduce it.

What does your DS search for? Does he know his letters?

I know shoppingbagsundertheeyes bought a cheap pair if headphones and cut one of the ears.