hi all just to let you know all went well i think i got them to listen and they were more reseptive than they have been previously they accepted that some staff needed to be more aware that my ds thinks differently hopefully all will be implimented this time and the bullying will improve i am happier now that he is on school action plus so its not just down to the school but an outside agency is involved they can help determine whether he needs a statement although im sure he does already so fingers crossed it works out this time and that he starts to feel happier in school thankyou all for your messages of support earlier