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Making hay while the sun shines and always adoring Beatrice.

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cupofteaplease · 29/05/2012 14:30

I have chosen the thread title this time, because current circumstances means the sun isn't always shining for Beatrice at the moment. Indeed, she is currently in hospital in a fair amount of discomfort. However, when the sun does shine, and we have bright and clear days, we pack in as much as we can. Smile

When we brought Beatrice home from SCBU, we had the consultant's words ringing in our ears, 'Take her home and make some memories.' I feel confident and proud that we have made a treasure trove of memories, however long Beatrice's life may be. She continues to be surrounded by so much love and adoration from her family and I feel this love has helped her to thrive.

During the difficult days, such as these, we pray hard for peace and calm, and for a quick resolution so we can take our darling girl home and make even more precious memories with our beautiful Beatrice.

As with all other threads, same rules apply Wink, read if you want to, post if you can, but above all, please spare some positive thoughts or prayers for Beatrice. Smile

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MNP · 09/07/2012 10:48

Hope Bea recovers quickly but glad you've avoided the hospital.

chipmonkey · 09/07/2012 11:01

How is beautiful Bea today?

Lilithmoon · 09/07/2012 12:29

Positive vibes here :)

Northernlurker · 09/07/2012 12:33

Hope Bea is doing better today

youarekidding · 09/07/2012 16:15

Been thinking of you and Beatrice today. I hope she is doing better. xx

cupofteaplease · 09/07/2012 17:44

So we're home, but I feel really stressed out today. Basically, as soon as we arrived at the hospice on Friday Beatrice's breathing was too quick and she was working too hard. They started her on azithromycin straight away and she seemed much better on Saturday, so her 02 was put back down to 0.2l.

Sunday, I got called first thing by the carer to say Bea was very uncomfortable and breathing too hard and what would I suggest to make her more comfortable. Anyway, her o2 was put up to 0.8l and it was decided that she should stay another night as she was still unstable and the roads near our house were shut due to Silverstone, meaning the journey home would be extended and unpredictable. So dh took the older girls home and I stayed with Beatrice in her room. They had no spare carers so I looked after her and she had a really rough night.

This morning she was working too hard to breathe again so her o2 was increased to 0.8l again. I mentioned to the nurse who came to talk to me that I was a bit anxious about taking Beatrice home on 0.8l of o2 as the most we can give her is 1l at home. If she needs that much, we have no option but to take her into hospital, as we have been advised. Now this is where my day started to go wrong...

The nurse suggested that hospital is not the right place for Beatrice. She was very kind, but reminded me that Bea is not for IV antibiotics or PICU, so questioned why I would take her to hospital? She didn't understand why we don't have a nebulizer and an oxygen cannister at home so we can administer up to 4l of o2 if needed. I said I felt more comfortable on the ward with doctors around who are, after all, trained. Then the doctor came to see me, and again, just as kindly, asked me why I felt hospital is the best place for Beatrice when she is ill. She said we can have more o2 at home, antibiotics that we can administer and even oral morphine to keep her comfortable.

I left feeling quite shaken really. Like every time I have taken Beatrice into hospital with a chest infection, they've been criticising me behind my back and thinking that I should be doing more at home. I hate feeling like a burden and now I just feel fucking awful, like a big damn drain on the NHS who should've been taking care of Beatrice all this time at home. I feel so stupid and low I could cry.

Our CNN rang and said she's spoken to the hospice about getting us more o2 at home and I told her I don't know if I feel I can cope with any more at home on my own. This is a home, not a hospital and I am a mum, not a doctor. Then she asked if I had gone into work today and I said I hadn't as I didn't leave the hospice until lunchtime and she laughed (not unkindly) and said she didn't think I'd manage it. So I said, 'No you're right, I failed.' And that's how I feel tonight, like a big failure. I'm a shit teacher if I can't even manage 1 day at work and a shit mum if I can't manage to look after my child at home.

I feel even more wound up as I got talking to a mum at the hospice whose child has a muscle disease so is fed by a PEG and has apnoaeas (like Beatrice) and consequently gets respite 5 nights a week 10pm-9.30am and 8 hours spread over 2 afternoons. When I told her I get 7.5 hours a fortnight she thought I was joking. But when I told them at the review I was struggling at nightime, they said they would apply for a night of care but 'most parents prefer to cope on their own and don't like having a stranger in the house'. I feel like I'm failing at every step. I can't do what all the other parents of disabled children are doing.

Bad, bad day.

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chipmonkey · 09/07/2012 17:54

cup, didn't want to read and not post but am in work and about to go home so in a hurry.
They should not be making you feel that way and you are not failing! You are doing as much as anyone could possibly do and you have other dc's as well! I'm very upset for you at the way you've been spoken to.

JustFabulous · 09/07/2012 17:55

Oh love Sad. I don't know what to say BUT YOU HAVE NOT FAILED AND NEVER WILL FAIL BEATRICE.

You do what you are happy with. The NHS is there for you and your baby and if you need to go in every day, you go in every day.

slacklucy · 09/07/2012 18:00

NO NO NO, never questions your decisions or your ability.

The hospice team will have a very different approach to a hospital team as they are very familiar with long term care of very poorly children.. it's all new to you, you haven't had years of training & experience & you dont have their detatchment. You are right you are Bea's Mum.
If you feel more comfortable taking to hospital when she becomes unwell then that is exactly what you must do.

The probably made the assumption that you would prefer to keep her at home when unwell... well perhaps with a bit more home support you may well do but in the meantime just continue doing exactly as you are doing.

Fight & push for more support at night, dont be fobbed off. x

slacklucy · 09/07/2012 18:03

Oh & having more frequent night time carers at home can mean fewer hospice & hospital stays so can actually bring greater normaility for you & your girls.

foofooyeah · 09/07/2012 18:07

I am so sorry that you have been made to feel this way - perhaps altho these medical staff have good intentions they fail to remember that you have a family at home - and you are doing all you possibly can. You are already under stress and dont need it added to by people suggesting that you should be doing more - and you shouldnt have to fight some some help and respite. You are you, you are Bea's Mum, you do what you feel comfortable - I do think that people are trying to make suggestions to you thinking they are being helpful - but you stick to your guns and do what you want.
You have not failed and wont fail - use every resource available to you - and do what YOU think is right.

annalovesmrbates · 09/07/2012 18:13

Oh no! All I can say is that from what I have seen here, you are a wonderful mum! You are right, your home is just that, a ho$e for your whole family and you are not medically trained.

Cup, you are brilliant, don't forget what a womderful job you are doing with Bea.

annalovesmrbates · 09/07/2012 18:13

Oh no! All I can say is that from what I have seen here, you are a wonderful mum! You are right, your home is just that, a ho$e for your whole family and you are not medically trained.

Cup, you are brilliant, don't forget what a womderful job you are doing with Bea.

CMOTDibbler · 09/07/2012 18:20

I don't think they are criticising at the hospice at all - I think what they are trying to say is that if you want to stay out of hospital with Beatrice, you can, and they will make that happen.
Remember that they see a huge range of children and parents - most of whom will have had a period of 'normality' with their child. And a very significant proportion of people whose baby is as ill as Bea will never bring them home from hospital as they just can't cope with all you have to do.
And I think your CNN was sympathising - I can't imagine going into work after what you do normally with Bea, let alone a weekend like that.
But telling you that about overnight care is Not On. Its cruel in fact

ohmeohmy · 09/07/2012 18:29

You have done nothing but the best for your family. As others have said, go where you feel comfortable for her care. If you get more O2 at homeyou can still go to hospital when you feel you need to. Sometimes offhand remarks from staff can really hurt and stay with you but try not to waste your energy on that. Keep focussed on loving your family, take what you need and reject what you don't. You are an incredible mother.

TooOrangeyForCrows · 09/07/2012 18:56

Dear Cup
You are NOT a shit teacher and you most certainly are NOT a shit mother.

People who make remarks about "mothers like to cope on their own at home" have got absolutely no idea what it is you have to cope with, all the day, every day. Please don't be made to feel you can't ask for the help you need. I absolutely agree with not turning your home into a hospital. These HCPs are there to help; I hope you can get some sleep and feel better about things tomorrow.

cupofteaplease · 09/07/2012 18:58

Thanks everyone. I know that the hospice staff weren't being cruel, they are lovely people who see ill children all the time. I hope I haven't come across as criticising them. I just feel I've had my confidence knocked and I hate the thought of people sniggering at me behind my back. Like, how could I be so presumptuous to assume I could look after Bea, the girls and go to work? How stupid am I that I think the hospital can help Beatrice when she's going to die anyway? I hate failing at anything, and I'm surrounded by people who know what they're doing whilst I'm peddling like a mad woman to keep up and learn new skills without losing my composure.

Most days I feel feel proud of myself when I crawl into bed because I know I've given 100%. Today I just feel deflated and scared of the future.

I know the hospice recognise how unstable and poorly Beatrice is as the usual allocation is 10-14 nights respite per year, but Beatrice gets 3 nights every 6 weeks. I guess I'm not able to see her condition as serious because I see her growing and making progress. The end seems so far away, I get scared when others feel differently. The hospice talk about end of life so easily, it breaks my heart.

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Hopeforever · 09/07/2012 19:16

I can begin to understand how you are like a swan, calm, beautiful and in charge, but under the surface you are madly paddling to keep up, or even just to keep from going backwards.

There is a great saying for new mums

"Everyone can offer advice and think they have all the answers, but you and only you (and baby's dad) really know your child and what is for the best"

You are the expert, trouble is that's a huge weight on your shoulders.

Not sure your reasons for returning to work, but I think it's a great thing to do. You get a change from being 'mummy' and you keep your professional career going so that you can develop and earn for the future.

That must be hard when everyday is so full on and getting to the end of the day, let alone week or month, but you are young and have years ahead

If there are people sniggering behind your back (which I doubt), they should be glad they don't walk in your shoes. Even though Bea s a wonderful gift to your family, they don't know you

youarekidding · 09/07/2012 19:37

Oh cup First off huge (((hugs))) and please know and believe you are as far from a failure as a person can be.

As you may remember I work in a school for pupils with SLD/PMLD. We do have pupils who recieve night care (between 3-7 days a week) because they need monitoring throughout the night. I also know that these children are the ones who require more than 1l of O2 at times. I totally get where your coming from because we had larger tanks in school and it was scary using more than 1l. And this isn't me trying to cope with giving it to my own child.
I would really push for night care if that's what you want and need - state you cannot care for Beatrice 24/7 alone. Nurses and GP work shifts for a reason (iyswim?).

Beatrice is gorgeous, she is making progress, we have followed your journey from the start and my word has that girl come far. Smile

You are not a shit teacher either for not being able to make it into work. I totally understand why work is something you need to do. As you said you get no real respite and this is your respite - although teaching is one of the hardest professions I know. Grin

Please please please, I beg you. Do not feel like your doing anything wrong. You give 3 beautifuls girls and your DH a fantastic time. But you are only human.

And my offer still stands that I made before. I am off the whole summer holidays - I really can provide some respite for you if you need it. It is a genuine offer from one mum to another.

ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 09/07/2012 19:39

Oh my love :( I haven't been on MN in quite a while as I've been trying to face RL & stop hiding from it on MN!! Reading your posts from when I was last on was such a roller coaster - it's no wonder you are exhausted.

Please, don't doubt yourself, you are an incredibly wonderful Mum to all 3 of your girls. You have coped so well with all that Bea's disability has brought with it, including medical staff - some of which should be lined up and shot

boomdecker · 09/07/2012 20:36

cup I have read with astonishment and admiration as you've confidently described the medical procedures Bea requires, and how you have learned to care for her. It's like you've done a crash nursing course and done it really well, being so sensitive to Bea's particular needs and fighting her corner.

You are in no way a failure. (Though we all have our moments when we are human and weak and beat ourselves up for not being perfect. That's allowed you know Wink )

You have negotiated a complex system of care, seeking out what is best for Beatrice and learning along the way and even done things like a charity tea party - and I am just open-mouthed in admiration that you had the oomph to do that in the midst of everthing else!!! You are supremely capable. You've done an EXCELLENT job with Beatrice.

Please sit down and be kind to yourself and look objectively at the loving, stimulating life you've given Bea. She loves her Mummy very much and is more than content with you. Hugs xx

stressheaderic · 09/07/2012 21:17

Exactly what boomdecker said. You are truly doing an amazing job. Really. Beatrice and her sisters are so lucky to have you as their mum.

Northernlurker · 09/07/2012 21:39

The Hospice staff talk about end of life so easily because that is their stock in trade. If they couldn't talk about it they wouldn't do what we need them to do. That doesn't make it an easy place to be though.

I agree that they were trying to give you more options but if for you home is home and hospital is hospital then that's fine. It's ridiculous that you arent getting more hands to help at night. That's not because you can't do it. You've shown you can. It's because you and Beatrice need to LIVE not just exist and to do that, you just need some help in getting stuff done. When will you hear about the one night of over-night care?

Praying for a better week for you all.

letsblowthistacostand · 09/07/2012 21:58

You are a fabulous mum and all your girls are lucky to have you. Hope Bea feels better soon!

saffronwblue · 09/07/2012 22:34

Oh cup. You are not a failure. You are a brilliant tenacious, gracious, loving mother who has dealt with the shock of Bea's condition, become an instant health expert, continued to provide stability, love, security and fun for your other DD's and are keeping your career going! All this while managing your own grief, anxiety and sleep deprivation.
I cannot express how much I admire you.
Health professionals sometimes come from such a different place - they forget to think about your prespective or what the journey has been like for you. Please don't let them erode your confidence. You are magnificent.