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And the B***a*ds strike again :(

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coff33pot · 22/05/2012 17:41

I dont know how much more of this I can bloody take.

And so ds been learning about mining and has developed a big interest in it. I take books to school, research with ds about his ancestors on the net who were miners, where they mined and which mining community they lived in and printed it off so he had a deeper involvment and help him fit in. DS loves rocks and digging at the best of times.

Letter April school trip to mines, going to get a chance to go underground, smash a few rocks for tin and a workshop. DS is so excited about it.

Yesterday he walks in and gives in the form and pays the money with me. This morning he was telling me all about it and giving me a run down in the car about what packed lunch he wanted to take etc and we cant be late mum he says.

They decided TODAY that they wont take him. They left it until 3.15 today to tell my boy that he cant go on his school trip. He walked out so sad refusing to cry. He cant understand why said he doesnt have a reason and all his friends are going.

I want to fucking kill the woman.

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auntevil · 22/05/2012 17:52

Assuming that they had done a full risk assessment prior to the trip (as required by the Local Authority), it would have highlighted any areas that would be troublesome in some way for any particular pupils to attend.
Personally, I would go hell for leather and ask which part of the trip they felt he was unable to cope with and why they had not flagged this up on the risk assessment prior to any trip being allowed to happen.
If they had identified a risk, why did they deliberately mislead you and your DS.
If they hadn't identified a risk, inclusion is not being adhered to.
B**y disgusting tbh Sad

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission · 22/05/2012 17:56

blimey that's awful, have they given any explanation of why he can't go? I'd be livid too.

steelev48 · 22/05/2012 18:01

That is terrible. Your son must be so upset and you have every right to be angry. It will be interesting to find out why they have done this to you both.

bochead · 22/05/2012 18:05

The ONLY reason I can think of for this is sheer spite!

Contact the centre they are going to in order to find out about mining, explain what has happened and take him yourself!

This is cruel to do to ANY young child and nothing short of evil for one on the spectrum with an interest in the topic.

coff33pot · 22/05/2012 18:08

The HT decided that it could be a dangerous trip for him due to the fact there will be tools there and he may touch them. That because he runs and hides in the cupboards at school and wont come out that could be dangerous if he wont come back from somewhere.

Said he must learn to comply and give them respect to be able to go on these trips.

This is punishment AGAIN to try and convince my son to comply with school rules when they have only half the statement in place and still no quiet area for him to go which they admit is bad but blame him non the less. They locked all the cupboards this week to try and direct him to one and he panicked and was frantically looking in peoples drawers and offices for keys to get in one of them :( but of course that is classed as bad behaviour.

Strangely enough he has been to marine museums with no problem, giant greenhouses with no problem and when on a den building (with tools) and learning on how to make FIRE with no problem.

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bochead · 22/05/2012 18:11

I'm afraid that with only weeks to go at the school, I might be found handing out leaflets to other Mums at the school gates one day Blush

I'd want full copies of the risk assessments straight away and a written explanation as to why he was being excluded at short notice like this signed by the Chair of the Governors & head of inclusion at the LA. (cos the HT is getting away with blue murder & by demanding their involvement they cannot claim lack of awareness at this school's failure to abide by the law for those kids coming after yours)

If they had identified a risk, why did they deliberately mislead you and your DS.
If they hadn't identified a risk, inclusion is not being adhered to

Either way the DDA is not being adhered to. Document and send to Ofstead (again).

bochead · 22/05/2012 18:12

Do you have any photos of the other places he's been?

Sabriel · 22/05/2012 18:16

That is awful. My DS's school tried to do that to him re the Y6 residential trip, and weren't planning to tell us, until we forced their hand. It all worked out OK in the end for us.

What do they expect him to do while all his class is at the trip? Could you not have gone with them? (I take it the trip is tomorrow- you didn't say in your OP). Can you just take him in anyway?

It is so unfair, but no words of wisdom I'm afraid.

HotheadPaisan · 22/05/2012 18:16

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Voidka · 22/05/2012 18:17

I know this isnt the answer, but could you offer to go with him and support him? Just so he isnt so disappointed?

silverfrog · 22/05/2012 18:20

oh dear god that is so shit.

I am sorry your ds is being treated like this, coff33pot. how horrible of the school to knowingly lead him on like that, and then let him down at the last minute.

AgnesDiPesto · 22/05/2012 18:30

This is appalling. I would be tempted to write back saying your child will be coming on the trip and you will be accompanying him (assuming you can) and that if they refuse you will be taking legal action for disability discrimination claiming compensation and legal costs. Say if they refuse you expect full written reasons to be provided.
Either they think he is unsafe, or it is a punishment for failing to comply - which is it?
Wasn't there an article recently on here about a family who sued? If we can find it you could print it off and enclose it with your letter.
If I lived nearer I would come and stand outside the bastard school with a placard with you!
Sometimes if you challenge bullies they will back down.

AgnesDiPesto · 22/05/2012 18:35

here
Only got an apology though. Can't you get compensation for discrimination?

TheLightPassenger · 22/05/2012 18:36

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146359/Primary-school-deeply-humiliated-ADHD-sufferer-7-banning-school-trips-end-term-disco.html

I find the HTs comments about compliance/respect quite chilling tbh. As if she doesn't know and doesn't care to know about his disability and sensory issues.

IME of being a parent helper on a school trip, any group of children this age on a school trip is hard work, with a lot of shepherding and eyes in back of head required, NT children included!

WetAugust · 22/05/2012 18:49

Coffpot

Put a complaint into the Tribunal just as the person in that DM article did.

Apart from being discrimmatory, it's pure malice and they need to understand they have exceeded their authority here.

Fight back

auntevil · 22/05/2012 19:04

From what the HT said Coff it sounds like they had prior knowledge that your DS might have difficulties if not properly supervised.
I would say to them that in order for your DS to
" learn to comply and give them respect to be able to go on these trips." he needs to be set an example by those demanding it.
If they cannot 'comply' with a statement, and give you and your DS the respect of prior knowledge that they had made this non-inclusive decision, how can they expect your DS to reciprocate these qualities
Tell them they need to go back to school and learn their 3 Rs - reading - sencop, wRiting - every communication to be sent in that form, and aRithmetic - 1 to 1 supervision on the school trip = inclusion = safety.
Really poorly handled, forgetting that the result of their actions is a distressed child ffs.

ArthurPewty · 22/05/2012 19:08

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 22/05/2012 19:08

What a pile of crap. Angry Your poor DS. You wouldn't believe it if you didn't know how shit they've been already. I'm not sure I could be arsed to fight them again, but you seem to be made of sterner stuff. Grin Can you ring the mine and take him yourself?

LadySybilDeChocolate · 22/05/2012 19:11

The Black Country Museum has a mine, you could take him there. Smile

Complain about the school, how heartless! Sad Your poor boy. Sad

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Desperatelyseekingsupport · 22/05/2012 19:16

Angry I feel absolutely furious about this coff so can only imagine how you and your ds feel.
We had similar. Ds was going on a trip to London and the DHT called us in on the afternoon before (no notice - I had to take time off work). She then waffled on about various concerns they had about health and safety issues and how worried they were that something 'might happen' on the trip etc Hmm. Dh and I just sat through it glaring at her basically. Said we were disappointed that we had to lose working time when it could have all been said on the 'phone and thanked her for her concern about ds Smile. I am sure she was hoping we would pull him off the trip.

coff33pot · 22/05/2012 19:20

Yes I do have some school pics they took of the last trips he was on all over my fridge bochead some with me and some without.

I tried to ring MG solicitors but couldnt get through this afternoon as I am so angry with it. It has meant he has spent all today doing mining and being given reminders with the class on dont forget wellies, packed lunch etc to be scooted off at the end of the day to go before the HT and be told he is not going.

I am looking up the site and visits but if I take him he wont be joining in the workshops with them and I doubt they will have it as a visitor day as parties are limited to 60 and that will cover all and above Y2 plus teachers/helpers etc.

Trouble is DS now told his Dad that they "dont want him to go so they dont want him and if they dont want him why go to school?" (child logic but true)

What hurts is that he said "I didnt ask why mum because I was going to cry" :( DS never cries unless end of major meltdown which is so few now. So that onsided convo would have taken a huge amount of self control on his part.

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coff33pot · 22/05/2012 19:21

Oh I did suggest two could go with him meaning me. HT said she could go aswell but still didnt think he should go.

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Ben10NeverAgain · 22/05/2012 20:19

Bastards.

To think that they even gave him a letter if they knew that he wouldn't be going was so cruel. Needless to say, the fact that they can't say he is going is terrible if he is a statemented child.

Ben10NeverAgain · 22/05/2012 20:20

Poor little boy :(