Kate and William and their potential baby?

[StarlightMcKenzie]

I know this is going to sound a bit off, and I wouldn't wish a disabled child on anyone.

But given that it happens to the most normal people do you think it would help raise the profile of disabled children if one of the many children who are born with a disability, are born to them?

I'm not going to go so far as to wish/hope it because that would be awful. But I do wonder if it would make a difference.

sorry, when I said I wouldn't wish a disabled child on anyone, it isn't so much the child I have an issue with but the heartache and the sadness and sheer bloody work that it can cause, rather than the child themselves.

Well David Cameron had a child with a disability and that doesn't seem to have helped.

Hmmm, but David Cameron wasn't so well loved was he? And he used it as a political tool.

I was going to say it certainly didn't seem to make David Cameron resolved to make a difference.

I understand what you mean by this thread, but I rather think it's going to go badly. I realise you are not wishing it on them, but it makes it sound like you hope it would in order to raise the disability profile, and this makes me very uncomfortable.

Personally, I think you might want to consider having this thread pulled, as it kind of seems to step over the bounds, IMO.

Does it Triggles?

I did realise it was potentially contentious but I didn't raise it to wind anyone up. More as a discussion. Diana did a hellova lot for charity and disadvantaged populations. A child born into the Royal Family will be incredibly well cared for compared to many of ours. But would that make it more acceptable? Less marinalised?

I'd also be interested in the potential of the child to be 'allowed' or not to be the head of the monarch!

I'm not saying this to be difficult, I just honestly think it's a bad idea to discuss this. Call it tempting fate or sounding like you're hoping, perhaps.

I think it's a bit useless to speculate, as there are just too many variables anyway.

or would they just hide the child away as much as possible and play down any issues as they have in the past?

I'm in agreement with giggles tbh (though I can see what you mean)

The thing is the first child born to kate and Will, will be heir to the throne (after Wiliam) so there would be all sorts of issues to consider if said child is born with difficulties.

Just thinking about it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth tbh. (esp as she isn't officially pregnant yet?) If you consider how the royal family treated previous royal children who weren't 'normal' - john?

Triggles, I'm not speculating, or hoping. More wondering, thinking and discussing. I suppose I don't see disability as such a bad thing in itself, but there is so much predjudice, more than ever atm, that I do wonder..

giggles Triggles sorry

I agree - I would delete this thread or purchase an extremely hard hat and disguise :o

Oh God, I get flamed regularly. I'm not worried about that especially.

I'm a bit worried about upsetting people but I do still think that it is an interesting thing to discuss. Not because I don't want to have their anger directed at me, but because I genuinely wouldn't want anyone to be upset by this.

Perhaps it would have been better more hypothetical i.e I wonder what it would be like if an heir to the throne had a disability, rather than specifically naming names.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone either but i have been thinking this too sometimes - as you say purely as a 'what if"

Beckhams boy Romeo has epilepsy and that hasn't done much really to raise profiles etc I see what you're saying though. It would prob get more public funding pushed towards their particular disability

I absolutely think only when high profile people have disabled children do things change. One of Obama right hand men and best friends has a child with autism and one of the first things he did as president was push through legislation that ABA be covered by health insurance.
Sadly Cameron is not of the same ilk.
I know he says he had to fight to get the special school he wanted but bet he didn't get dragged back to tribunal 12 months later
I read a book by Lynn Koegal (PRT version of ABA) which said she had a child of an A list Hollywood Star on her books who said he would give up anything, even his own voice, if his child could talk.
I reckon it must have been John Travolta whose son died a year or so from seizures but had severe autism. However again he didn't use it for any good purpose but the whole scientology thing got in the way. if it was him I am a bit [hshock] that he did ABA and then covered it up.
If this is true confession time I must admit there are certain members of the LA who I sometimes think I wish you were in my shoes and could really understand... which I know is terrible but these people cause me so much pain I just want them to know, even for one day what it is really like.
Gordon Brown and his wife set up a charity for disabled children and I will always be grateful for Gordon's tax credits without which we would have sunk many times.
Edward & Sophie's child has a squint or something but I think they keep her away from being photographed most of the time.
Anyway I would doubt pregnancy is very likely until Kate puts on several pounds.

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I hope the family has moved on. But yes does make you wonder....

Edward and Sophie's daughter has Exotropia.
Cameron did use his son as a political tool. I remember reading a story that the school that his son went to was being closed down because of the cuts and he refused to get involved in the fight to keep it open, talk about hypocrite.

Doesn't Louise have some form of SN? And wasn't there that lovely little bridesmaid at their wedding with SN who got a lot of ridicule about not being pretty?

I doubt it would raise any profile tbh, which is a shame on both accounts.

Would it make any difference? The private lives of the rich and famous are just that - or they should be if they choose for it to remain that way, so how would we ever know unless someone chose to disclose it and use it to 'raise the profile'.

In any event, there is one BIG difference between the lives of said rich and famous and us which weighs against the need to 'raise the profile' - MONEY and lots of it.

With money and power comes connections, the best services, the right support, doctors and health care professionals doing what needs to be done not what they can manage to get away with.

You wouldn't need battles about ABA or statementing or respite care or anything else as money would buy you that. Look at the Camerons - severely disabled child but both working full-time in high-profile jobs because of money and full-time care. Why would you feel the need to campaign or raise the profile?

So, irrespective of the appropriateness or otherwise of such suggestions, the cold hard reality is likely to be that it wouldn't make a jot of difference.

the speaker of the house of lords, who's name i have forgotten has a child with autism, as does keith duffy's daugther and so has another famous person i know but wont name as im not sure its public knowledge.
I dont think it helps at all, sadly :(

I agree that there are those who do things like that and Keith Duffy is one example but the question was about their royal highnesses and there is fat chance of someone with that level of money and power acting in such a way.

Bercow is the Speaker

I think it has to be A list person to make a difference or someone with political clout

Think its also one of boyzone members whose son has autism. Sally Berkows son too.