LA new low: Vexatious

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How desperate are these twunts?

They got their 4th witness blocked by the Tribunal as the second S&LT has never met my child.

I've challenged their change of EP as she has not worked with my child or even met him - suddenly she wants to go into school. I can't be there though.

Challenging these practices makes me vexatious and I have a letter to prove it. No warning, no appeal. All correspondence now goes through a single point and this little admin lady will decide whether it merits response!

They're not worried are they?

Very democratic. But then I suppose DH isn't vexatious is he?? I',m sure he would want to ask questions too

I mean ffs. I've got to wait 6 months and go to tribunal simply to get ds' provision specified. The hours are their in figures and implied but the LA won't clarify that those hours are actually for him .

I mean, what possible incentive is there for a LA to NOT do that and save themelves 6 months of funding?

Let's get started Star - in the summer. Call a meeting, thrash out a programme and name. It needs doing.

Alone, we are all so vulnerable. Together we become more of a threat.

I wouldn't have believed such things possible when I was only on the 'other side'. I would have laughed disbelievingly at anyone who claimed parents were treated like this.

Then I was the parent and it happened to me and my child.
Only the people doing it to me were people I knew and worked with and trusted to do the best for me.

Ours don't ban. They just write woolly letters back that don't explain anything and when you respond asking for clarification they write back (Forrest Gump style) 'and that's about all I have to say about that!'

You're right. Absolutely right and they know it. But when you raise it and pursue it, you're a bully.

I'm going to speak to SOS:SEN on Monday too. But things are going pear shaped all over the place for Ed depts as LAs use the 'austerity cuts' excuse to slash budgets.

Things will just get worse.

I'm happy to organise a meeting with you Star, we need to do something postive

Yes AT It is still on my radar and not forgotten. I got ill with stress and had to deal with it myself rather than get anything on my medical record that could be used to allude to character failings so it has taken me a bit longer to recover than it should.

My mind is fine btw (apart from the tescos warping), it was a physical reaction but I'm almost okay now.

Oh Star, you poor thing. I hope you're feeling better.

Perhaps someone could start by doing an FOI request to my shitty LA and ask how many vexatious decisions they make and in what departments?? Any takers??

I thought that the very minimum it could be was a FoI network, where we could team up to get max relevant information from each others LA. That would be a very basic and easily achievable short term goal.

The information could lead to something to either publish or lobby with, but certainly use to name and shame.

It's funny you say that moondog, I have always known about it because I started out in ABA with families going through the process and a year or two ago, a colleague gave me a statement for a child we both knew saying that she was thrilled that the child had "got everything" that had been asked for. I read it and ripped it to shreds for its wooliness and advised her to tell the parents to seek for intervention to be appropriately quantified in Part 3.

I think she thought I was a nutter...

It's like the interrogation in the Millie Dowler case.. pointless wrangling that has nothing to do with anything but can devastate and destroy real people who are already in circumstances they would never have wanted to be in.

It is a disgrace.

Yes tired,it destroys your faith in peopel and makes you question your sanity and whole perception of your life.

The thoguht of anyone suffering as I did makes me feel genuine physical pain.

I've had legal advice however that whilst you can publish the information you can't imply anything by it as the LA could take you to court and would even if they are wrong because it would cost you £20k just to defend yourself.

Yes 'pointless wrangling' and petty point scoring and a dogged refusal to just say
'Look we've really fucked this whole thing up.I'm really sorry and can we just sit down and start it again.'

The double whammy is that peopel suffer this when they are already suffering anyway, worrying themselves sick over thier child.

I think public service workers forget that what is bread and butter for them (lie you, 9-5, I have seen literally thousands of kids with similar comm and educational issues) is a first time event for the family and an absolute terrifying experience.

btw, where this is hidden and embedded, we're also going to tribnal for ABA!

Absolutely Moondog. They have lost any sense that we are battling for our children. We are just a nuisance, demanding things we don't need and bringing it all on ourselves.

Why not say if it was a real issue? That's what grown ups do.

They don't say as they want to embarrass and label and upset. That is the only reason for doing this.

They are probably pissed off that I have completely dispute the crap LGO investigation which was laughable in its incompetence and partiality. Fat chance I'll go back to them.

They also get pissed off at DPA and FOI requests but how else do we get evidence when they lie to our faces.

If anyone would like to write to the Hd of Governance at Crapshire Council with a request about vexatious determinations. Let me know!

Yes AT I'll do it but you won't have it in time for your tribunal.

Tired, what matters is that you act with integrety with the information you have.

How our Head of Service sleeps at night after publicly taunting me, a parent who is only trying to get her ds a chance, about our tribunal loss in a huge meeting attended by many I have no idea.

Why the school have been informed that the tribunal ruled against ABA for ds because it was cruel for him, I also have no idea.

People who tell lies deliberately are very different from people who were trying, with limited resources, to do the best they could.

Thanks. That's ok. At least it will arrive at some point! I will PM you both and we could do each others for comparison!

Yes and the assumption that parents somehow enjoy being difficult.
Like anyone chooses to put their life on hold to spend their evening composing letter,s poring through documents and being consumed by rage and impotence??!

I barely acknowledged my toddler ds's existence for a year, such were the demends on me.

I stil lfeel very angry about that (amongst myriad other things).

The thing that anrages me more than anything else was a ocmment by a senior colleague regarding my attempts to promote a culture of evdience based data driven practice in my work. I was told 'You are allowing your feelings as a mother to have an effect on your work.'

In what depraved parallel universe could that be considered a bad thing??

My vestigial feelings of regard for the old school vanished in a puff of smoke of smoke at that exact moment.

I'm sorry, this is going off track.I just want to say that I burn with rage for you all and all you go through.

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God Star that is dreadful. We need to band together. I may be able to get a couple of education lawyers onside