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LA new low: Vexatious

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appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 12:50

How desperate are these twunts?

They got their 4th witness blocked by the Tribunal as the second S&LT has never met my child.

I've challenged their change of EP as she has not worked with my child or even met him - suddenly she wants to go into school. I can't be there though.

Challenging these practices makes me vexatious and I have a letter to prove it. No warning, no appeal. All correspondence now goes through a single point and this little admin lady will decide whether it merits response!

They're not worried are they?

Very democratic. But then I suppose DH isn't vexatious is he?? I',m sure he would want to ask questions too

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appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 19:29

That's unbelievable. These people are so precious.

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bochead · 25/06/2011 19:50

Certainly they've lost sight of the fact they are officially employed to support and promote the welfare of children!

I've yet to see an official job description that includes the objective "make X% of Mum's so depressed they need medication in the first quarter of the year". I do wonder though as this must be measurable - unlike the targets for achievement they assign our kids.

I went to see my MP today and came away underwhelmed. Until the attitude at the top changes nonsense from lea staff will continue - there is no incentive for it not to. Accept whatever crumbs you are thrown - if not pathetically grateful for the most ineffective substandard offering (can you tell I'm still fuming over my own nursery for a 7 year old offer? ) expect to be bullied into submission.

What keeps me going is the need to be able to look my future adult child in the eye and say "I did all I could so you could have a decent life". I've met very few Mums who don't share this desire from any side of the social/ability/class divide. What I hate most is how we change as people as the "sen process" gradually hardens us. That hardening is unavoidable - however to quote Whitney Houston "You can't take away my dignity!"

tiredoffightingwithjelly · 25/06/2011 20:09

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Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:23

'What I hate most is how we change as people as the "sen process" gradually hardens us.'

Yes. I am not a better person, or a better parent either but my ds is better off this way and so this is what I have become. I don't choose the anger for his sake though. The anger is unavoidable.

I got ds' final statement today. They are so incompetent they forgot to head it 'final' statement despite the accompanying letter informing me of my right to appeal.

I got with it all the depressing reasons why the school he is going to in Sept are not happy to have him.

My life is a fucking nightmare!

Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:24

There is a correlation between parenting a child with SN and having a marriage break up. It is assumed that it is the pressure of coping with a child with a disaibility but I don't believe that is the complete, or even half the story.

appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 20:27

That's a good idea!

It's interesting that your only right to complain about your 'freeze out' for 6 months seems to be to go to the LGO.

It is interesting that they advocate that when they're in the middle of an LGO inquiry. The LGO were useless and completely ignored the law in assessing my complaint, telling me it was my 'choice' to get involved in managing my son's provision - or lack of it

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appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 20:30

Star, I am so sorry you are back at this stage again and we get accused of bullying.

Honestly, they deliberately drag things out, avoid explaining themselves and fail to comply with statutory duties and we are just supposed to take it.

Even with an LGO complaint, it took the idiots 5 months to get DS's provision sorted and yet the refer to my 'premature' use of complaint channels.

It is not even worth thinking about. If they felt they had a strong case, they wouldn't feel stressed or be pissing us all about.

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working9while5 · 25/06/2011 20:31

My God, this is legal? Is it? Who defines "vexatious"? Do you have a solicitor?

working9while5 · 25/06/2011 20:33

I presume none of this impacts upon your statutory rights e.g. to refuse for the EP to see your child.

I find all of this horrifying. I know it goes on, but whenever this sort of stuff comes up here, I have to pinch myself and remind myself that this is what happens to parents who are only seeking the best for their children.

Moondog says it's Kafkaesque. Couldn't agree more. Sorry to hear this is happening.

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Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:38

Oh no, I requested their reasons so that I could work with ds and the school to resolve the issues. It was a bit of an accident they arrived together.

If you want a laff (Sorry to hijack AT) the school are refusing ds because they are worried that all the adult support will overcrowd the classroom, but the statement is illegal and doesn't specify the support (either TA or SLT) so they lost that argument Hmm.

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bochead · 25/06/2011 20:38

I'd agree with that - on a daily basis this year my "ishoos" with the authorities supposedly set up to "help" us have been far worse than anything DS has thrown at me. I cannot wait for the summer hols!

There are a few absolute diamonds in amongst the dregs - how these people manage to turn up for work daily surrounded by all the corruption, incompetence etc I'll never know! Those individual professionals will probably never appreciate just how much I truly do appreciate the slivers of advice/assistance the system allows them to give my child. The help they are able to give is in spite of the system, not because of it and that is just so wrong.

Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:39

And we have to go to tribunal.

But at least the school will have mixed loyalties if they stand against us.

Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:41

Yes. There are a couple of stars for ds too, but the problem is, whilst they are really doing their best for ds, they are still loyal (and paid by) the corrupt system. I find it very difficult to thank them or show gratitude less the wrong people take credit for it and unfortunately that has happened and stung me a couple of times, so I don't bother now.

tiredoffightingwithjelly · 25/06/2011 20:43

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Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:48

Sorry you were shafted by the LGO AT.

You have the same disease as me I think. At least DH tells me I have a disease. It's called competence and I appear to expect it from people around but in the UK they vaccinate against it.

appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 20:50

Working - I have contacted a solicitor. I was supposed to have an advocate working on this but she seems to have disappeared in a puff of smoke!

They really forget who they are dealing with. Parents going to Tribunal about their disabled child's needs.

Of course, they justify that to themselves on the basis that we're demanding too much and it's our own fault.

But we are still PARENTS protecting our CHILDREN'S NEEDS FFS!

Looking at policies on this on the web, it is clear that many LAs 'warn' someone so they can adjust their behaviour.

Not this bunch of useless parasites.

So much for working in partnership eh? Funny thing is - I'm lawyer. If I was doing this officially on headed notepaper, they wouldn't dare do this as the questions are legitimate and I am persistent in pursuing answers. Yet, the 'layperson' can just be told to bugger off.

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appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 20:52

Yes out standards are too high - we set the bar at the impossibly high level of competence.

I am so sorry that this is dragging on for you. You are right, it does make you angry and hard and you end up trusting no one because you can't. They all lie...about children.

Nice life eh...

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tiredoffightingwithjelly · 25/06/2011 20:53

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Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:54

The thing that I get cross about is that when you're all done and you've fought your best battle, costing you your relationship, time, health and purse you could lose, - but if you do win, you win 'adequate'.

appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 20:56

Absolutely. We need to get something done. Something positive must come out of our experiences. The parents united will never be defeated and all that!

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working9while5 · 25/06/2011 20:57

Isn't that horrific AT - thank god you are, as your name says, appropriately trained to see it for the crock it is so that you don't roll over and play dead like they want you to. How dare they say that asking questions about your child is vexatious? How can that stand up?

It makes me livid. Who are these people?

Starchart · 25/06/2011 20:59

Love that word. Now just gotta learn how to spell it.

Yes, absolutely AT. Interestingly I think the economic crisis isn't a bad time to raise this kind of thing. The government and the papers are turning on public sector workers and services. I'm not saying that is a good thing or that I support it in a general sense but only those that can justify their existence will survive it.

appropriatelytrained · 25/06/2011 21:01

I know and if it is hurtful to someone trained, what does it do to someone who is just battling away asking awkward questions.

The fact is that if you really felt someone was stressing your staff, you would simply say 'please stop' no scurry off and 'ban' them.

Deeply pathetic and bullying.

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