Panorama - Learning Disability Hospital abuse

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I know it is on AIBU, but why no debate on here? Did anyone watch it?

I forced myself to watch it because one of the factors in abuse of people with learning disabilities is the fact that good people who care, stand by and do nothing because they can't bear to believe it is possible.

I cried watching it and feel so utterly distressed that as my DS reaches 18, I won't be able to care for him at home because he is too challenging, but I can't bear the thought of what might happen to him away from us...

Too, too distressing. I want those bastards to be done for torture and find out what it is to be hurt and bullied and stamped on themselves.

What the fuck are LA's funding learning disability hospitals for anyway? They were meant to have closed years ago - why on earth are private companies receiving funding to open new hospitals? It beggars belief.

I won't sleep tonight

I may have missed this but does anyone know what is happenning about the many other castlebeck units, they appear to be a rather large "provider".

No tired. I will look them up to see if they have any houses of horror in my area

I suspect you have probably already seen this tired :

www.castlebeck.com/workwithus-currentvacancies-8.html

Shame I've let my registration as a nurse lapse else I would have applied.........not! Although on the other hand maybe some people who would say what was really going on would not be a bad thing?

check out their website.

'Castlebeck is committed to safeguarding service users at all times, and enabling each individual to retain independence, wellbeing and choice to live a life that is free from abuse and neglect. All service users are potentially vulnerable due to the presence of learning disabilities, challenging behaviours and other complex needs. A number of processes are in place to support their protection.
All staff are trained in the 5 R?s of abuse and this is refreshed annually. The 5 R?s are:
R - recognise
R - respond
R - report
R - record
R - refer

I think the two guys pictured in the Castlebeck job advertisement are probably laughing because they've just read the above

Did you all click on the Castlebeck statement re the abuse at Winterbourne?
Err yes Bakelite.. a case of saying all the right things on paper but the reality being horrifyingly different.

Whatever happenned to that chap form the tv, Roger Cook, was it Cook reports or something? I remember the door knocker as the intro to his programme, this kind of thing would have been what he would have reported on, I seem to remember someone telling me about a programme where people with LD were being given food as a reward and where behaviour was poor Complan was given instead of food. I never saw the programme myself though, did anyone else?

I do have vague memories of Roger Cook...
No detail though except he certainly didn't pussy foot around!

Roger cook was brilliant at getting things in the public eye..I used to watch his show all the time. I know a few times he got beaten up too. But he would make the programme and then sell it to TV...perhaps they stopped buying? Perhaps he got sick of being beaten up? Or retired? he must've been getting on a bit towards the last couple of years.

Yes, I'm old enough to remember Roger Cook too. I guess the secret camera is a better tool for uncovering sustained abuse etc.

I still haven't found that lovely nurse's whistleblowing site. I wish the government would facilitate a national whistleblowing site

Some of the families of victims of Winterbourne are seeking compensation:
www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2011/06/27/117079/winterbourne-view-victims-seek-compensation-from-castlebeck.htm

Good. They should pay up big time. They certainly weren't spending their cash on qualified and caring staff.

In case anyone has got the energy (today I haven't), how to make a complaint to the Care Quality Commission about the Care Quality Commission [[http://www.cqc.org.uk/contactus/howtoraiseaconcernorcomplaint/howtocomplainaboutcqc.cfm here]

here

Winterbourne is to close CQC website report

Stable door...Horse...bolt....

Call for vote of no confidence in Care Quality Commission -
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-13952198

Anyone got any views on the latest proposal that the carers uk boss should lead the social care probe following Panarama's exposee?

www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2011/07/28/117237/carers-uk-chief-asked-to-lead-social-care-quality-probe.htm

I'm not so sure how independent this body could be, doesn't most of their funding come from central govenment anyway? I wonder how she will carry this out?

mmm.. maybe someone will reassure us tiredof .. hope so.
All been very quiet on the Winterbourne front mainstream media wise.. unless I am missing something..

Someone showed me a heart wrenching article in the Daily Mail yesterday.
5 'inadequate' people jailed for the killing of a young woman with learning disabilities. So called 'mate crime'.
The young woman was living in her flat with not enough support. She was SO VERY vulnerable.
Awful, awful...
Makes me despair of humanity that these 'friends' could treat another person so wickedly and truly not seem to understand the severity of what they had done.
Also shows dangers of 'community care - on the cheap'..

Indeed 2boys and it's going to get cheaper with all the cuts, frightening isn't it along with the lack of qualified workers working within adult services it's hard to see how the vulnerable will be protected.

As for the report that is being commissioned into Winterbourne which I have seen nothing about in the general media, I predict a carefully planned release which reflects positively on the action of the current government at a time when votes are needed................cynical or realistic?

We all know about the Stephen Laurence case - hugely high profile and resulting in the police being accused of 'institutionalised racism'. Well, we don't even know or remember the names of most of the disabled people tortured and killed by disablist sadists, do we?

I look forward to a day when disablist crimes receive the same publicity and public horror as racist crimes.

The institutions were closed for good reasons, but there is so much institutionalised disablism in society, it is like throwing some vulnerable people to the lions. The fact that when I type 'racism' my computer deems it an understood word, but when I type 'disablism', it scrawls a red line underneath the word as it does not recognise it speaks voumes