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School called social service saying I drink . I can not drink medically .

102 replies

Ewrika · 12/02/2024 15:27

I made a complaint about school on Friday .
Monday 9am they emailed 10 pages of lies to SS.
including “mum is drinking ? “
And many other lies against me that I can all back it up with solid material that they are lying .

the funny thing is due to medical physical Gastro reason I can’t drink . My GP knows it .

I can’t believe private school here lie about anything for revenge.

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Blu23 · 16/02/2024 04:55

Yes, as a parent you can bring a private therapist for your child even in the state school too, state school may tell you to go through their route of bringing in NHS therapist but you are allowed to bring private therapist and I have heard about parents who have done it. If I have funds, I rather will go to a private therapist if required.
Regarding the teacher telling you about your child’s sen - it's such a shame they weren't allowed to tell you. I don't think the teacher will jeopardise her job but you can always quote her without mentioning her name. If they ask you, just mention the teacher was afraid she might lose her job.

Ewrika · 16/02/2024 07:38

Thanks 🙏
yes we been referred to nhs salt since 2022 January. Still nothing.
but private salt if paying can see straight away and much more comprehensive.

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Fahbeep · 17/02/2024 16:12

Get a lawyer and see if you can bring a claim for defamation with the evidence you have. Move kid to a different school as retaliation possible whatever you do now as HT is exposed.

Ewrika · 17/02/2024 17:35

I went to a&e 20 hours ago . As kid suffering from extreme anxiety : doesn’t want to go to school .
a&e made SPA referal for education Welfare support .
and issued v long discharge letter documented everything.
also mentioned I have zero record for drug drink neither mental health issue . As a mum .

I applied for 4 state school awaiting for Monday half term admission back to office . Tried to call last week all week to most schools no one answers . Everywhere is answer machine .

I stated it’s emergency in year transition attached nhs letter and police victim letter to council admission. Hoping can get an offer . As school head said he will report me to SS whenever I don’t arrive before 10:30am everyday .

nhs said they can’t write sign off letter . Neither gp . But they can help to make SPA to make council aware of this.

so in the end :
my kid still have to go there everyday until a new school gives an offer .

we applied for a private one who is extremely slow . 2 days trial in 10 days time .
meanwhile hope a state saying YES to us within 5 days .

poor kid still have to go to school meanwhile .

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Ewrika · 17/02/2024 17:40

I begged nhs to sign off him for a week .
as I hope I can get a yes from state within 5 days .
but they have no power for this .

last time he was anxious and sick winter flu we went to doctor . School immediately called SS.

so now what shall I do for next 5 days ?
just say he is sick & let current school carry on calling SS ?

There is another mum used winter flu as excuse ( actually took kid to ski now in Europe) signed kid off for 2 -3 weeks as antibiotic needed .

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Ewrika · 17/02/2024 17:41

Fahbeep · 17/02/2024 16:12

Get a lawyer and see if you can bring a claim for defamation with the evidence you have. Move kid to a different school as retaliation possible whatever you do now as HT is exposed.

They very clever . “ we suspect mum is crazy . We suspect mum has undiagnosed mental need . We suspect mum has drinking problem “ to SS

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Ewrika · 17/02/2024 19:38

A&e made referal to EWO

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Thisismynewusernamedoyoulikeit · 17/02/2024 21:05

I'm not sure I fully understand your situation, but if the idea of going to school is causing extreme anxiety, keep him off until a suitable place can be found.

School do have to report persistent absentees to EWO / SS, but those agencies are nothing to fear in a case where there is a genuine reason he needs to be off school.

Do you think his school anxiety is due to this school not meeting his needs? Do you think his needs can be met in a state school?

Blu23 · 17/02/2024 22:45

@Ewrika can you do home schooling till the time he is offered another place? Call up council maybe and ask for some info. If school is causing anxiety because of his unmet needs then I understand why your poor child is suffering so much.

Ewrika · 18/02/2024 07:03

i have only 1 anxiety : half term weekend . no one is working or picking up phone in council and those 4 states schools I applied.

good news is :
private doctors can pay to get sign off notes .
as nhs won’t now due to complicated policy ( I just did 3 hours research on mum snet which says huge length process involving CAMHS referal taking 7 days then back to gp to sign off . )

good news is :
EWO is referred to be my on side by my nhs , not referred by school from their side .
i will call EWO Monday 8am pushing for a state offer asap .

I don’t know below is retaliation or not in this country whether it’s acceptable . Kid is not happy about below .
clasroom teacher saying:
if you are not one hundred percent to me I won’t be vice Versa nice to you .
put down your device. What? You want me to say please ? Why should I ? I am your teacher . I don’t need to say please thank you . It’s a command .
why you stimming ? Why you stimming ? Be quiet …
there are more and worse examples . ( but can’t type here as will be too identifying )

a&e does include all above in the report . And their comment is “retaliation “from school.

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Ewrika · 18/02/2024 07:05

I only need to buy time like 5-7 days for a yes from 1 out of 4 state in year transfer offer . I hope.

get gp note via CAMHS needs 7-14 days

get private doctor needs 1 day .

get home school application takes weeks and months ?

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spanieleyes · 18/02/2024 12:37

No, to home school you simply write to current school and say that you will be home schooling from today. That's it. They may request a meeting to discuss but you don't have to. The school will then need to inform the local authority that you are home schooling. You MAY get a visit at some point to check on the education you are providing, sign up to Oak Academy and several other online teaching resources and they will be happy with that
Obviously, with a private school there may well be notice periods to consider but that is a financial issue and not a legal one.

Ewrika · 18/02/2024 16:40

thanks for shred some light on me !! Super appreciated ….

but then just found below:
I am relying on EWO pushing for a yes from my 4 state application . But below seems like council will say nope if u r home edu .

Personally, unless you actively want to EHE, and don’t just feel pushed into it due to DD’s needs, I wouldn’t EHE. Parents often find it easier to get support when on a school’s roll, even if DC can’t attend. Crudely, you are someone’s ‘problem’ whereas it is all too easy for others to brush DD’s needs under the carpet if you EHE, and the LA will say you are making suitable alternative arrangements and they are relieved of their duties.

Whereas, if you don’t EHE but can’t attend school full time the LA have a duty to provide suitable alternative arrangements under section 19 of the Education Act 1996. In addition to this you should also apply for an EHCP which can then include additional provision and therapies, if there isn’t a suitable school this can be via an EOTAS package.

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Thatsnotmycar · 18/02/2024 16:53

There is much bizarreness on this thread and your now deleted previous threads and a whole lot of incorrect information that I am going to ignore and just address your last post. That is my post you have quoted and it does not state the LA can refuse an in-year admission application because you are EHEing. What it states is if you EHE the LA do not have a duty to provide s19 provision, which is correct. You are taking posts from other threads with completely different circumstances, taking them out of context and completely misunderstanding them.

Ewrika · 18/02/2024 20:09

How about EHCP ? With HE. It s no conflict neither ?

s19 looks familiar with EWO urgent transfer to me.

To be on the safe side .
i will call EWO Monday to chat firstly.

but thanks for such wonderful HE ideas .

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Thatsnotmycar · 18/02/2024 20:39

You can get an EHCP whilst EHEing. However, if you get an EHCP but decide to EHE the LA do not have to provide the provision in F. In a minority of LAs in a very small number of cases LAs will give a personal budget to those with EHCPs who are EHE, but this is not commonplace, it is not guaranteed and is not a huge amount.

s.19 is not about in-year admissions.

Thisismynewusernamedoyoulikeit · 18/02/2024 22:41

Definitely talk to EWO.

If you want him out of school, just don't send him. Don't elect to home educate if that's not what's right for your family. Don't worry about threats to contact social services.

Ewrika · 20/02/2024 17:31

Current school head suddenly sending me 20 emails & 5 misssd call today .

offering : waive 1 term notice fee .
we Help u to leave asap from the notice given date . Without the 1 term notice.
Refund u prepaid 1 term fee.

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Ewrika · 20/02/2024 17:33

I guess maybe there is some small print somewhere maybe in this school policy saying if kid de registered or left . Then the internal complaint procedure maybe terminated from the date of de registration.

but I still have my case of send tribunal as that is : within 6 months of incident .
regardless kid is registered or de registered . backdating 6 months .

correct me if wrong .

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Thisismynewusernamedoyoulikeit · 20/02/2024 18:13

Sorry, I don't know the answer.

If they can help get you a new school and waive the fees owed, that sounds like a win to me.

What are you helping to get out of the complaint and the SEND tribunal?

Ewrika · 20/02/2024 18:27

They didn’t help me to get a new school.
ehcp people told me the school is least helpful with their forms .
i helped myself to get a new school.

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Ewrika · 20/02/2024 18:28

Actually you guys here helped me to get a new school !

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Blu23 · 21/02/2024 00:55

Glad you could get your child in a new school. Good to know that they are ready to waive one term fees. If I were you, I would take it and move the child into new school, there is no use of just keeping the child in school so the complaint can move forward. Use that money for a private therapist to send into new school until ehcp is in place. I have no idea about SEND tribunal, if it's within 6 months of incident then you can still try after moving, if not, then better to let it go as I don't think you will be keeping your child in the same school just to take it to SEND tribunal. I am surprised that the headteacher just decided to waive 1 term fees though.

Ewrika · 21/02/2024 05:59

happily surprised u mean?
u mean he should refund me the whole year or even better the past 5 years ?
:)

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