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7 year old expelled from school for violent behaviour

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 00:25

Please tell me im not on my own, the last 2 years iv had to stay with my son at infant school every morning, it was the only way to keep him in school. He is violent with teachers, disruptive he would throw chairs tables etc they would move the whole class outside. The move to junior school he was put in a special needs class, as he refuses to read or write, and got expelled for destroying the classroom and throwing scissors at teachers. I feel the schools and other authorities have let me down as tests or any other treatment has not been sorted. Im at a loss and feel its my fault.

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BATtymumma · 03/10/2006 00:31

firstly your not on your own at all.
My DS has just tunred 6 and gets sent home from school anywhere between 1-4 times a week.
and he gets expelled for days at a time at least once a month.
he was exclued for 2 days last week in fact.

As for getting help for you son has the school not mentioned getting him assesed by an educational Psychologist? they could come and either asses with the possibility of forming a diagnosis or refferal or simply giev the the school some pointers of how ot deal with his behaviour.

you should also go to the GP and ask him to reffer you to CAMHS or the local community Pead.

i know how you feel and know how hard it is. Good luck

cowmad · 03/10/2006 00:34

feel sorry for you honest... an all of us loves our children an would do any thing to help them get along in life,,,
but in what way has school let you down?

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 00:59

i asked for assesments from every where they turned him down as didnt see it as bad enough he is now expelled for good because of his behaviour we do have a worker at camhs but he has been off sick for a long time so not had anything from them for a few months now iv asked for every test possible to rule in or out even dislexia but nothing was ever done we now have no school for him and dont no what the next steps are x

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 01:04

as he was in his last year at infants he was only allowed to go part time and only if i stayed because of their health policies which is undrstandable but i felt his behaviour was encouraged to some degree as he was singled out as having problems he had behaviour person who came a couple of times a week but slowly he was separated from the rest of the class so when he was put back in class he felt alienated he refuses to read or right his self esteem is nil i have 5 kids all together so i feel that i could have done alot more but dont no where to go from here

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 01:10

it all started with him just being disruptive but he soon learned if he was to bad the school rang me and i had to fetch him out they didnt try to deal with him there it was just ring me fetch him this last one of being expelled from first year junior school they had already knew all about him so wondered if he was singled out from the start as i have a daughter there who can be worse but nothing ever happened to her he said he did it so he could come home i feel its been encouraged in the wrong way

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cowmad · 03/10/2006 01:15

so what do you think that should be done ...honestly

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 01:39

to be perfectly honest as he is only 7 i wish i could just start his whole learning progress over again start from scratch cause somewhere he stopped wanting to learn and his behaviour took over he needs to learn how to want the knowledge that you learn at a school but i dont know where to start on helping him with this he needs to want to learn

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 01:47

i want him to be checked for dislexia adah all to rule out any medical probs or deal with them but when i asked for an assessment they turned it down adah can take up to a year to be tested what is he supposed to do in the mean time i have to go in to the education and discuss home tutoring or there is a school in cannock for kids with behavioural probs but it stereotypes without dealing with anything

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cowmad · 03/10/2006 02:03

then you need to get a hold of someone
find out who
and tell them just that
and hang on to that for grim death!
insist
badjer
ferrett away till you get what he needs..
do you really want him to change school?maybe it would be a good new chance for him?
maybe by sticking with the same school you`ll get what you want eventually?
but what do you think he needs?
really?

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 02:09

my support in any way possible all he needs is me but nothing is moving and i dont no what to do next its all a waiting game for when they can fit u in he will be a teenager before anything is done god help me then lol

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Red12 · 03/10/2006 02:11

they wont have him back at his school now so it will have to be another school with possibly the same repercussions expelled for good and it will go on his permanent record which can mess things up for him totally

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aaronsmummyhaslosttheplot · 03/10/2006 07:33

Not sure if this is appropriate but have a look atthe IPSEA website, I am not sure if thos os appropriate in your case but if you contact them I am surethey willpoint you i the right direction.

BATtymumma · 03/10/2006 21:23

Contact your local LEA. then ask to speak to the inclusions officer.

explain that your cincerned about the behaviour as cearly he is not able to be educated whilst he is like this.
TBhj i am astounded that you havent been reffered to an ed psych or the inclusions officer already.....the school sound terrible so i would be happy to move him if i were you.

it is your son's legal right to an education and the LEA MUST find a place for him.

does he display similar behaviour at home? if so then it may well be worth visiting the GP and aking him for advice of where you can approach for help...its no surprise to me that Camhs have been pants..theya re rarely any good.

if this is exclusivly a school problem then you need to get an Ed PSych in to work out what the problem is. there must be something casuing this behaviour.

from your post it seems like he hasd learnt that bad behaviour = getting sent home where he gets to plsay with toys and not have to do the things he doesn't like, ie read and writte

ring the LEA tomorrow and ask what their intentions are...then go from there

cowmod · 03/10/2006 21:24

they must have gone through a LOT before sxpulsion

w e ecxpleeded a kid recently and its no mean feat

cowmad · 03/10/2006 22:21

(not me last post)
red12 as i said before i do feel for you and your ds
sorry i dont have any experience in this area
and im sure you have loads of "fight"in you to deal with this in the right way for you and your ds hopefully someone will come on line that can help you

in the meantime consider this a bump and a pat on the back for being a resoursefull and determined mummy keep pecking away at it!!

frances5 · 09/11/2006 16:52

I spent 3 days in a secondary ebd school as a PGCE student. The kids got the attention they needed because the classes were really small. (7 children to one teacher and LSA) All the children had a statement and the teacher had time to teach them basics like social skills and help them learning difficulties. The curriculumn was less prescriptive than a typical state secondary school and the boys had the chance to do things like car maintaince if they behaved themselves. It might be worth going to have a look at the school in cannock to see what its like. The teachers I met in the EBD school were outstanding. Alternatively some schools have an EBD unit attached so that children can still enjoy mainstream activities.

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