Misguided Illusion Part II - Baby still not sleeping through by six months? Come and join us!

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Thought I would start a fresh thread as, sadly, we have almost filled the first one.

Feral, Kiwi, Chulita, et al...shouldn't we have graduated from this thread by now?!

Now welcoming a new crop of 6 months+ babies determined to help us reach new heights/depths of sleep deprivation.

Here is the original thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleep/713951-Support-thread-for-those-who-were-under-the-misguided-illusion

Hello HeinzSight - glad that you're having what sounds like a temporary glitch in sleeping. I have a vague recollection about seeing a thread about something leaving a wig with their dc (I think another one involved a false arm/hand?!). Might be worth searching, but I'm not very good at that!

Certainly, lots of babies seem to like something to fiddle with while they settle off, although for my DS they've tended to be more of a distraction (Glares at Mr Bunny, who always seemed to be wrestling with DS when he was supposed to be napping). Have you tried a taggie or similar?

isitmeor , i remember that thread about the false limb in the cot, pmsl .
they probably got a better night than me tho....

Congratulations IsItMeOr and Galena - those are spectacular nights!

I was a bit smug yesterday, and so of course last night ds was up half the night. It wasn't his usual 'needing a bottle then straight back off', with me barely noticing, instead he seemed to be having nightmares. It's happened three or four times now over a few months, and makes him inconsolable, apart from if he's brought into the bed and cuddles up to me. Didn't used to be a problem to have him in the bed, but now that he's more than half my height, he manages to turn, roll and push me to the edge so that I'm clinging on precariously and wondering why he doesn't do this to dh instead Anyway, bit miffed that the thread's magic has worn off...

NotHousekeeper welcome and sorry you have to be here. I hope things improve quickly for you. I think those early weaning days before they take on much food are quite unpredicatable, because you and he have got to make a new balance for his appetite. It got better (not completely obv. as we're here a year later) for us once ds had learned to eat well.

olivo I wish I had seen that thread. I always wondered how I could substitute needing my body in bed for holding to keep him asleep. Not joking - did they say it worked?

Wishing you all wonderful nights and sorry for the ginormous post!

good morning,and happy easter!
I had a bit of a breakthrough last night, managed to get DD2 to go 3 hours between feeds, and only needed to to go in and cuddle once in between, so was only up 4 times with her.
DD1 has also been a bit better; we have established that she doesnt actually realise she is waking and shouting for me; it seems to be if i leave it too long that she wakes up properly and screams. so if i go and reassure her immediately,she tends to go straight back to sleep. she was only up 3 times.
not a bad night, although i didnt actually sleep that well myself too much chacolate and wine last night i think

hope others had a reasonable night.

Happy Easter

Welcome NotHouseKeeper. We had really poor sleep here on initial weaning. He started pooing at about 4am. It got much better quite quickly.

olivio up eleven times!!! Shocking . Thats it! Just the one child for me . Better night last night??

ooosa poor DS, poor you. What happens if you extract yourself from the bed? Does he gravitate towards DH.

ruby-DP is not very involved with night wakings here as he works pretty long hours. Whilst it would sometimes be fab for someone else to get up, at least it means that you can be really consistent in the way you deal with it. I'm trying to see a positive side to being up half the night and feeling like shite .

Well poor R fell off the bed yesterday and split his lip. Blood everywhere. How awful did we feel! Cue an hour of crying then two hours of sleep on me. We then went out in the evening, he slept all the time for the babysitter. I went in to check him when we got back-wide awake and smiley but he just sent himself back off to sleep and woke at 7. Yippppideeyayha!

That's my one nights full sleep for the month

Hi all new ones (Sorry, can't reply individually as at my parents' and can't spend forever re-reading the thread!).

We had an unsettled night again last night because we went to see my brother and sister in law after lunch and had tea there. It's an hour's drive, and we didn't end up leaving till 7, so we got Skye in her sleepsuit and sleeping bag and then put her in the carseat. She slept for the hour back, then woke up once we were home. 2 stories and some milk and she went down - for 20 minutes, another feed - another hour. In all she woke at 8, 8:40, 9:30, 10:40 and 4:50 then 8:15 for the day.

Hopefully more settled tonight since we've had a more settled day.

Hope everyone has a good night tonight.

Hi everyone, dd has now gone 2 nites in a row only waking v briefly once and has gone straight back off to sleep once her dummy was located. I can see straight, put a sentence together and even remember my name! Long may it continue and just incase it doesn't I'm already in bed (its only 9pm lol)

hi all

good for you Lupav

galena - hope you have a better night

olivio - my saving grace is that DS who is nearly 4, sleeps through. If i had the pair of them awake i don't know what I would do

bella - one good night is better than none

oosa - hope you have a better night tonight

hello to everyone (especially those i may have missed)

tonight is phase 1 of my sleep plan - am going to reduce the time of her 1 am feed by 1 minute every other night so in around 2 weeks she should be sleeping through

she feeds on one side only now, so need to reduce the feed time ... she is eating well feed her at 4.30 pm, tea at 5 pm, feed at 6.30 pm before bed (plus a 10 pm feed)

if this doesn't work then sleep consultant it is

have a good night all - will report back tomorrow

how did it go ruby? i loved the optimism of your post, 1 min less each time and then she'll be sleeping through! i really hope she is!
we had a much better night last night. DD1 only woke once, when i was feeding dd2, but was back asleep within seconds of reassurance. DD2 woke at 1 for a feed, at 2.30 and at 4 but then slept till 7, dd1 was up at 6.40, so we both managed to get a reasonable night. I think it might be becasue she took an extra bottle in the day and an extra bf, as well as eating like a horse! I've just got ot stop feeding her when she wakes.....
bella, hope DS is ok today.
Galena, hope you had a more settled night too.
fingers crossed for us all tonight...

Hello! Think I might be almost back from the Tonsillitis wastelands. Yuck!

Meanwhile, DH reports that A slept through again last night, from 7.45pm to 6.10am. So that's two out of the last three nights. He was awake for an hour in the middle the previous night, we think for teething.

It sounds like there has been some good progress around.

ruby keep us posted - really hope it works for you! Does this bunny look like he's cheering to you too ?

olivio that sounds better. It's pretty normal for people DD1's age to have nightmares and need reassurance, isn't it? Although it sounds quite a lot in your particular case. Hopefully it will settle down soon. Do you have a plan for dropping feeds with dd2? We used a rule of thumb of, don't feed before x'o'clock, then not for at least y hours after that. But it would be hard work to stick to by yourself...

glad you had a better night olivio ...

we had a weird night - DD went down at 6.45 pm and woke at just before 10

i gave her 3 sides ...

she then woke at 11.50 pm (not impressed). I gave her a quick 5 min, one sided feed and she went through until 4.35 am

i then gave her another one sided feed and she was up for the day at 7.30 am

so a better night of sorts!

hope everyone else is doing ok this morning

oooh, some better nights all round!

isitmeor, glad you're feeling better. tinsilitis is awful. the plan is (and i am starting to manage it in the early part of the night!) to try and comfort by cuddles if it has been less than 3hrs since the last feed. if/once that seems to work, then i'll lengthen it a bit etc etc. if i could get her going 4hrs by the time i get back to work in 2 weeks, i'd be happy!

PS - you lot seem to have turned me into a buttery spread....

olivo have a horrible feeling that, on this occasion, it is me who started it.

I do remember wondering why you'd chosen to name yourself after a margarine ...

Ahem.

i am also guilty OLIVO

ha ha ha! don't worry about it!

Hehe, glad to hear we have the start of plans coming to fruition! Skye slept from 7:30pm until 6am today (Well, woke every hour until 10:30 but self settled each time), then came into bed with us and slept from 7 till 8. FAR better!

She has been eating like a horse while we've been at mum and dads (I guess because we've got the time to spend on lunch etc, rather than me trying to shovel a pot of puree into her between one baby group and another! Hopefully I'll bear this in mind in future and she'll continue sleeping through once we're home tomorrow.

I have been wondering why people were referring to Olivio, but didn't like to say anything!

Sorry Olivo. I was consciously trying not to do it but still did! I fear it might stick now

Tonight is going to be a shocking night. R refused tea (had half a yogurt) and only had a half hearted feed. I have decided I will give a ten o clock feed then it's water until dawn. He has only been offered water for the past three nights. Surprisingly he has taken a couple of sips.

Don't panic too much BB - sometimes Skye has a rubbish evening meal and feed, but still sleeps well. [fingers are crossed emoticon]

Unfortunately, after a good tea and good feed, Skye's already been up for a feed tonight! She went down at 7 and was up at 7:40. Ho hum.

so, how was everyone's night?

mine was eugh ...

Rubes up at 9.50, midnight, 3.00 and 5.30 and up for the day at 7.15 am

i did a shortened midnight feed as per my plan and she was not happy but she did settle

It is now 7.50 am and she has not had any milk or breakfast as she is still full from 5,30 am

maybe i should also try to drop that feed

am soooo tired ... anyway hope everyone is ok

am going to go out later to enjoy this sunshine

morning! my night was a bit like yours, ruby! i was thrown by DD waking at 9 and hadnt got a dream feed ready so i bf her but she woke at 10.30 and i couldnt settle her so fed her again. she then woke at 1ish 2 ish and 4ish and then settled till 7.

but the good news is that dd1 didnt wake at all. and the even better news is that she has earned herself the tv again, so i can get a bit of peace today if i need it!! no tv for a week has been harder for me than her!

am going to do whatever it takes tonight to get some sleep, and then work on comforting not feeding for the next few nights.

how was everyone else's night?

olivo that's great news on dd1! I can imagine what you mean about the tv - A doesn't get tv every day, but some (difficult!) days he gets a Waybuloo and an In The Night Garden.

I slept through last night , and DH tells me that A also slept through apart from crying out once but not waking. So we had two nights on the trot....fve

Well Galena your crossed digits worked. He woke at six. I have turned our baby monitors off too, so I don't wake at every sound of stirring.

ruby it is bloody irritating when they won't take a feed/food in the morning after an early morning feed.

olivo the resettling to sleep with a feed is just too easy isn't it. I am a shocker for it. My friend stopped breastfeeding, unfortunately her baby was still sleeping terribly so even when her milk had dried up she found herself offering the breast .

lol bella - i wondered if i stopped bf, would i still fel like offering the breast anyway! that answers my question!

you guys sound like you had good nights! well done, your DCs!

I wish i could turn the monitor off, but i am deaf in one ear and so am unlikely to stir unless DD was absolutely screaming!

hmm, i see parentlove hasn't come onto this thread.
are our DCs sleeping ishoos really that scary ?

Who's parentlove?