Waking up at night and light sleep? Feeling tired in the morning?

[MonicaMone]

Is there anyone here who sleeps poorly and wakes up during the night? What helped you? I know the common answers will be physical activity and magnesium, but that doesn’t help. I’m physically active, I put my phone away an hour before bed, and I still sleep poorly and wake up at night. Does anyone have any life hacks?

Luckily, my hubby drives whenever we go anywhere, so I don’t have to worry about that just yet... Thank you. So the patches are much better than tablets for you? And how safe is melatonin to use?

According to PubMed studies (National Library of Medicine) melatonin is considered safe. The study is long, but if you don’t feel like reading the whole thing, just read the conclusion.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9842516/

For me personally, patches are much better. As I explained, the difference is that a sleeping pill helps you fall asleep, but it wears off after an hour or two, so if you’re a light sleeper, you might wake up in the middle of the night. That can interrupt your REM phase and leave you feeling tired the next day.

Patches, on the other hand, release the ingredients continuously over the next 8 hours, so there’s no waking up during the night. Your REM phase isn’t interrupted, and 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep can feel better than 10 hours with interruptions.

That’s how my doctor explained it to me, and honestly, it’s been true for me.

I’ve also been ordering Lasomnium patches for years.. Unfortunately,, they increased their prices by around last month :( Still, paying £1 for a good night’s sleep seems like a pretty good deal.

Off-topic, but have you tried their calming patches? Do they actually work?

For me this was a symptom of perimenopause and started hrt sorted it. Your progesterone starts to dip in your late 30s/early 40s which is the “calming hormone” and lack of it can cause insomnia and anxiety. Bio identical progesterone (utrogestan) solved it for me x

I’ve never used the Calm patches because I’m naturally quite calm ( probably because I have low blood pressure :-) ) but I have tried the Energy, Sleep and Focus patches, and they definitely work.

btw, only order them through their official website, not Amazon. There are lots of different brands there, but I only use Lasomnium because their patches are MHRA-tested ,, at least, that’s what my doctor told me.

This was the first thing that came to my mind. Did you also have trouble waking up 2–3 times a night, or is that just in my case? And did it really turn out to be a consequence of perimenopause for you? Didn't you have any other diagnoses or causes?"

Yes,, perimenopause is one of the most common causes of of sleep problems in women.

No other issues or causes.. I was 39 when it started and it just got worse and worse.. for me it was trouble getting to sleep and then waking at 4am and unable to get back to sleep, was like the walking dead during the day . I hope you get it sorted xx

You see, falling asleep isn't the problem for me .. my problem is that I wake up 2–3 times during the night... it's awful. I'm glad you solved your problem, I hope I will too.

Thanks for sharing this! How long did you wait for delivery? Do you think the bundle is worth getting so I can try the other types too?

I mentioned this earlier I’ve tried Energy, Sleep and Focus, and they all work really well. I use Sleep maybe every other night when I want to get a proper night’s rest, and I use Energy and Focus when I need to get things done. They work for me. I’ve never tried Calm because I haven’t really needed it, but since the others work, I assume Calm does too. Shipping is fast

just purchased some, thanks for sharing

If falling asleep isn’t the problem and it’s just waking up during the night, could you be living on a noisy street? Are there trains or trams passing nearby? Sometimes the reason can be something really simple, but people convince themselves that something is wrong with them.

No, that definitely isn’t the problem. But it’s true that I’m perimenopausal, so that’s most likely the reason. I also sometimes experience sleep paralysis, especially over the past three or four years ,, at least once a month. That drives me mad as well.

Ugh, tell me about it. I’ve experienced it a few times, and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I’ve noticed that it happens to me when I sleep on my back or, for example, when I’ve already had a nap during the day. I have no idea what causes it, but I know quite a few people who experience it. Have you been through a stressful situation in the past few years? It’s also possible that you’re having nightmares you don’t remember, and they’re waking you up.

Yes, I went through a very difficult period — more specifically, my twin sister passed away three years ago, and we were extremely close.

Going through a difficult period in life doesn’t necessarily mean that poor sleep is entirely caused by it. Since you say you’re perimenopausal, you should definitely speak to your doctor. Melatonin can certainly help, either as tablets or patches, but it’s still important to see a doctor at this stage of life, as perimenopause can cause a range of other symptoms too. I’m speaking from experience :)

Yes, I was planning to do that anyway. Thank you for your reply. xx

Have you a UK website link for these patches by any chance?

I'm sure you will already have thought of this, but have to mention it - you don't drink alcohol before bed, do you? it's rotten for sleep quality, exactly that sort of light-sleep-early-waking.

Sympathies, it's so debilitating... 🤗

lasomnium.com is their UK website.. As far as I know, they have offices in both the UK and the US... I’ve tried loads of different ones, but these are the best for me. They are the most expensive, but at least they actually work and have been tested.

Oh no, I haven’t drunk alcohol for over 20 years :) TBH I even considered having a couple of glasses of red wine before bed to see if it might improve my sleep, but I decided against it in the end .. Do you struggle with poor sleep too, then? Have you found any tricks that helped improve it, if you have? :)

Look at getting HRT OP as it could really help you. You don’t need to wait for full menopause to start it. Peri is the time if you want an easier transition.

It’s not much use right now in a heatwave, but a weighted blanket can be a fantastic help in cooler weather. I prefer to just pull mine up if I wake in the night, because I get used to it if I’m using it all the time.