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DD10 takes hours to fall asleep - when does melatonin become an option??

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FusionChefGeoff · 23/02/2025 21:39

DD10 is very emotional at the moment which we're attributing to hormones and it also seems to be triggering a massive sleep relapse.

As a baby she was a dream - used to point to her cot and self settle no problems.

But for the last 18 months / 2 years she's had periods of finding it very hard to get to sleep. Usually it resolves after a few weeks but this latest set back has been months now with no improvement.

We have a very carefully planned wind down routine starting at 7pm screens off, talking about our day, I read to her, she reads to herself. Sometimes we do gratitudes, sometimes she talks about worries but not much.

She can't articulate what's stopping her but repeatedly has said she doesn't want to go to sleep. Not in a stroppy way, but just in a slightly scared / anxious way - but she can't go beyond that to explain why she doesn't want to go to sleep.

I tentatively suggested talking to someone about it and she flipped out getting very agitated / tearful and telling me to "just stop talking mummy"

She's now said that she feels babyish as she has to sleep in our bed, with us, with a light on and with either lullabies, stories or meditation tracks on to fall asleep.

If she's particularly grotty (ie needs sleep!) I will stay with her and she drops off around 9/9.30.

If we've left her to it, I go to bed around 10.30 and generally she's still awake but will fall asleep once I get in with her. But we've often had 2 hours of up and down stairs so I'm getting very despondent. DH and I have no time to talk / watch something and I often have work to do (own business) that I can't even attempt in the evening now.

She's very hard to wake in the mornings so isn't getting enough sleep.

When does melatonin become an option?? Or am I overreacting and just need to wait it out some more??

OP posts:
howdoyoudooooo · 24/02/2025 20:59

AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 24/02/2025 00:02

Your GP will have liased with a Paediatrician for them to prescribe it like ours did. GPs are not licensed to prescribe Melatonin without written permission from a Paediatrician

No, they didn’t. They prescribed it there and then at the first appointment of asking for it.

howdoyoudooooo · 24/02/2025 21:03

Morph22010 · 24/02/2025 07:47

They can’t unless the initial prescription comes from cahms or paediatrician then they can take over prescribing. We’ve had to have a referral to cahms for this reason but the waiting list to see them is years long, ds is diagnosed asd and always struggled with sleep but we’ve always managed with good routine and doing stuff like mentioned about. We’ve now hit puberty and issues have gone through the roof, he couldn’t get to sleep till 4am last night

No, our GP did prescribe without the initial
request coming from CAMHS and there’s never been any paediatrician consultation in our case. We have been seen through CAMHS and continue to wait, but the GP prescribed melatonin before any CAMHS assessment.

howdoyoudooooo · 24/02/2025 21:06

researchers3 · 24/02/2025 11:10

I requested it from my GP and was told it wasn't prescribed without a diagnosis of something like neurodiversity - which we did later get.

We don’t have a diagnosis (on the very long waiting list) and have melatonin on repeat.

Morph22010 · 24/02/2025 21:25

howdoyoudooooo · 24/02/2025 21:03

No, our GP did prescribe without the initial
request coming from CAMHS and there’s never been any paediatrician consultation in our case. We have been seen through CAMHS and continue to wait, but the GP prescribed melatonin before any CAMHS assessment.

It may vary by area but in our area they most definitely can’t

Vinvertebrate · 25/02/2025 18:05

Morph22010 · 24/02/2025 21:25

It may vary by area but in our area they most definitely can’t

My understanding is that it’s rare for GP’s to prescribe before a specialist review because melatonin is not licensed for use in children in the UK, so it exposes them to personal risk if it goes wrong. Some may simply see what a load of guff that is, since it’s available OTC in lots of places, and be happy to prescribe anyway.

TinyMouseTheatre · 25/02/2025 19:34

Have you had any progress @FusionChefGeoff? Wink

FusionChefGeoff · 03/03/2025 22:47

We've had a great week since posting this thread! Definitely helped by her wanting to change so glad I was able to ride that wave armed with all your suggestions.

Mostly, I took the 'stop overthinking this, get her in bed, quick kiss then leave her to it' approach as well as taking the pressure off and less focus on "talking out" her worries etc

She's been in her own bed and we've repeated the 'rest not sleep' idea to take the pressure off.

She's going up around 8, settling into bed for 8.30 ish then either I read her a bit of Harry Potter or a short story book from years ago and then a quick kiss / hug then she reads herself. Usually until about 9.30/9.45 before she drifts off.

So all the stress and histrionics seem to have gone which is a huge relief. And we have a more chilled evening without laying with her / repeated trips upstairs / lots of talking etc

And that's been a great improvement!!!

It's still much later than I would like and by Friday she was pretty grumpy in the morning but I'm hoping if we stick with this she may move naturally to sleeping a bit earlier.

Melatonin hasn't arrived yet but I've spoken to her about it and she's open to the idea -
I think thoigh I'll be saving it for eg if she's had a run of bad nights or after holidays when trying to get back into a school routine rather than trying it regardless.

Thanks so much - it's really been a huge help!

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Fuckthecamelyourodeinon · 03/03/2025 23:06

Glad to hear things are better OP.

Just wanted to add that DS1 listened to Christiane Kerr meditations for kids to help nod off. Her voice is very relaxing.

TinyMouseTheatre · 04/03/2025 18:21

Glad you've had a better week Wink

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