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Sleep regression. Anyone else want to join!? Sleepless mums!

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pinkgin1 · 16/11/2021 22:41

Currently going through what I believe could be a four month sleep regression? For ages my son slept really well didn't wake up in the night and if he did it was for one bottle then slept. Most nights slept 9:30pm till about 8am next day.
Has alllllllllll gone out the window the past week 🤣 I always knew the good sleep wouldn't last long and I appreciated it when it did but it's kinda making me feel extremely tired now including my partner🥱
How long does it last?? Will it go on for months?? Will I ever have a 8-8 again? 😥😥🤣
The strange thing is if he wakes up. As soon as I place him onto my bed and pillow he sleeps. So if it was a sleep regression surely he would wake also in my bed?

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MintGreenLife · 07/01/2022 00:48

So far tonight have got 20 mins followed by 45 mins out of DS, think it’ll be a long night!

MintGreenLife · 07/01/2022 00:52

@BadgerBum sounds good so far! Do you mind if I ask if she usually/used to fall asleep by herself/without boob or rocking? DS has only ever fallen asleep feeding, or with a good 20mins or so of jigging/rocking x

BadgerBum · 07/01/2022 01:10

@MintGreenLife she only my ever fell asleep by feeding before. Even if she woke up 20 minutes after a feed she’d need another to get back to sleep.

Update on tonight. She fell asleep at 7:30 and I’m just feeding her now at 1am, it’s her first wake!! This is the baby who I usually class it as a good night if she goes an hour after being put down!! Five and a half hours! It’s the longest stretch she’s done in literally months!

Sleepymama285 · 07/01/2022 07:15

Just catching up ladies...@BadgerBum that's amazing!! You must be so happy! We are thinking of starting sleep training tonight but I am so nervous. My LO also only feeds/rocks to sleep and is very vocal if she doesn't get her own way! It's going to be such a big change. How did you cope with the crying? And what was your game plan if your lo got really worked up? So pleased for you to have made such great progress!

JammyRedRooo · 07/01/2022 07:38

Feeling very happy this morning. DD slept 9pm - 4am, had a feed then went back down for just over an hour. So an early start but a great chunk of sleep for us both.

Won't even dare think it might be the end of the regression though as she is prone to having a random good night/couple of nights before it gets worse again.

But for today, yay!

@BadgerBum yay for your LO too!

Hope everyone else had an okay night x

LCF2021 · 07/01/2022 10:01

@BadgerBum Wahoooo! Sounds really positive! How many intervals did you have to do at bedtime?

@JammyRedRooo That sounds dreamy! Long may it continue.

Jess9898 · 07/01/2022 10:38

My baby is 12 weeks and I’m not sure if he’s having the sleep regression early 🤯.
He use to sleep 2-3 hours in the day and wake every 4 or 5 hours in the night then all of a sudden the last week he has 40 mins naps in the day and up every 2 hours at night.
Is there anything I can do?!

Mytigerhasstripyfeet · 07/01/2022 12:05

Hooray @JammyRedRooo and @badgerbum that is brilliant. Really hoping you get another good night.

@pinkgin1 how's the Covid? 😕

Hello @Jess9898 sorry to hear that. There are a few things you could try, like warmer bedding, white noise, dummy, a bed time routine if you don't have those things in place already. But to be honest most of us are finding it's just something you have to ride out unless they're old enough for sleep training. At 12wk I wonder if it's maybe down to a growth spurt?

Jess9898 · 07/01/2022 12:38

@Mytigerhasstripyfeet

Hooray *@JammyRedRooo and @badgerbum* that is brilliant. Really hoping you get another good night.

@pinkgin1 how's the Covid? 😕

Hello @Jess9898 sorry to hear that. There are a few things you could try, like warmer bedding, white noise, dummy, a bed time routine if you don't have those things in place already. But to be honest most of us are finding it's just something you have to ride out unless they're old enough for sleep training. At 12wk I wonder if it's maybe down to a growth spurt?

@Mytigerhasstripyfeet thank you I've been using white noise and dummy I've just started bedtime routine past couple nights I'll try the warmer bedding! Hoping it ends soon! X

Vie8126 · 07/01/2022 12:59

Well I went with warmer bedding we went with a sleeping bag two covers and some heating - he slept until 3am so I woke up at 2.50 and he was sleeping soundly and I thought well all good for him to not wake up but he did bang on 3am as he has for the last 6 nearly 7 weeks! Trying to replicate the day yest. I would have had a nice sleep but the heating kept meaning I was waking up. We can't run it on every night but wanted to see if it was down to being cold.

Anyone considered a sleep consultant for the constant wakings?!

Vie8126 · 07/01/2022 13:00

Also ds has screamed all morning for the last two hours so today is being hard work!

Well done to those who had successful nights with sleep training! Hoping everyone else had a decent night.

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pinkgin1 · 07/01/2022 13:00

@Mytigerhasstripyfeet

I feel ok now strangely enough, way better , worst lasted 3 days then went

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BadgerBum · 07/01/2022 14:38

@Sleepymama285 I was sooo nervous too. She only feeds to sleep normally and I thought there would be so so much crying. It was hard, especially the first few check ins. I would say do anything you can to make it easier for yourself - we had nice nibbly food, fresh sheets etc. Just little things that helped. We also built some Lego while waiting for the check ins so we were occupied!
We decided that if she got into a state where we thought she was so worked up she wouldn’t be able to calm herself down that we would try picking up and giving a cuddle, but ultimately that we’d put her on the boob and reassess afterwards or the next day. I started to calm down when I realised she wasn’t getting as worked up as I expected.

@LCF2021 The intervals we did were 3 minutes, 5 minutes, then 10 and repeated 10. The first night we did a 3, 5, then three 10s and she fell asleep part way through the fourth one. Last night we did 3, 5, then only two 10s before she fell asleep. I think you’re ‘meant’ to increase the inverses night on night but we were more comfortable keeping them the same last night. Not sure what we’ll do tonight yet.

StickyStickyStickStickSong · 07/01/2022 18:47

Anyone know of the huckleberry premium account is any good?

Sneezymcsneezy · 07/01/2022 20:10

@StickyStickyStickStickSong I'm curious too, I've tried the free one and found it just stressed me out more so I just stopped using it when he was 2 months old

Mytigerhasstripyfeet · 07/01/2022 21:46

Glad you're alright @pinkgin1 🙂

Hope everyone's nights go ok x

Blabbyoak · 07/01/2022 22:02

Hi everyone. Can I wade in and seek some support?
Our situation is similar to others I think. I've a 7yo dd and our newest member of the family is 6 mo ds who has been brutally torturing me with sleep deprivation since 4.5months. He was always an appalling napper, 30 mins tops, takes ages and a lot of effort to get to sleep, and is constantly overtired and grumpy but his night sleep was OK before...he even slept through on more than a few occasions. That's all gone out the window now...we have 3 to 5 false starts every bedtime, he screams (not cries) until he is almost sick to be picked up and even when you do pick him up he thrashes around like a wounded buffalo and takes ages to calm down and fall asleep in your arms in on a shoulder. This comes to an abrupt end if course as soon as you put him down in his cot.
I'm trying to do some ferber training which seems to be going OK at first, but is impossible at night when he wakes in the wee hours. Has dd almost in tears at 4.30am last night due to her being woken up and not being able to get back to sleep because of the crying.
Any advice would be appreciated.
This too shall.pass I know but not quickly enough to ensure my eldest isn't disturbed and I'm not a walking zombie.
We have no family near by to help and dh works away a lot so I feel I manage this on my own.

Mytigerhasstripyfeet · 08/01/2022 07:47

Hi @Blabbyoak this sounds really rough. Sorry you're going through it without much help. Some of the others on the thread have just started sleep training too so maybe you'll be able to share some tips. My DS is coming up for 6m and has been waking every 1-2hr for the last 8wk (now I'm writing that down it sounds crazy). We've started co-sleeping, but I know this isn't for everyone. My DS is teething, has a cough and conjunctivitis so it feels right to maximize how much sleep he's getting atm. Will your little one sleep in your bed? How was your night last night?

StickyStickyStickStickSong · 08/01/2022 08:24

Yes at the moment (well for at least last 2 weeks) I'm co sleeping with DS. He's 9 and half months now. When he was teething and had a cold and other things I had him in with me for a month when he was 7-8 months then we started the transition to cot which seemed to be going well but he's going through a clingy stage now I think it might be a bit of separation anxiety maybe so he's back in with me. However last night he managed half in his cot (9:30-1:40) then in with me from 2-7:30 so not as bad x

Blabbyoak · 08/01/2022 08:58

@mytigerhasstripyfeet I have had a better night last night thank you. I put him down at half 7 and he cried for 40 mins but fell asleep until midnight. Did a check in at 15 mins and he got way angrier when I left, so I decided to leave him and see how long it would take to drop-off.
I got him a feed at midnight but he didn't want it at first, was just looking around enthusiastically and wanting cuddles (which is what I want to avoid as he always wants picking up) but he took 4ozs and dropped of in my arms. Managed to put him down without him waking up (phew!) And he went through to 5am. Another 4ozs and had to rock him to sleep so he didn't wake up dd again. 😒
Had to stay with my hand on him as he was stirring awake again but luckily he didn't fully wake up and he slept another 2 hours.
So relieved. But... I think cio is going to have to work for him as me being there makes him more frustrated as he wants picking up. Pupd won't work because of this as well. Eeeeek!

Jess9898 · 08/01/2022 09:32

How was everyone's night?

I got tricked last night baby went down at 7:40 and woke for a bottle at 8:25 then he went straight back to sleep until 12:55 I thought he was back on track to 4 hours in the night until he started waking up every 1 hour and half to 2 hours after that

BadgerBum · 08/01/2022 09:46

Our third night was ok. At times I thought it wasn’t going as well but on balance it actually was still pretty good. She took about 40 minutes to fall asleep and actually finally went when my partner did the second 15 minute check. This in itsself is massive because previously she would never have settled for him, he just laid a hand on her chest and she went to sleep.

She woke at 11:30 for a feed, then was awake for about an hour and wouldn’t settle but we gave her some calpol as she’s teething a bit and then she did (sucking her thumb I think, which she only does in the day normally!) so I guess she was feeling sore. Then she woke at 2:30 and I fed again and felt a bit miffed and expected her to wake every 2 hours… but actually next wake was at 10 to 6 and she fell back asleep before I got up, and woke for the day at 7:10. So really, still very good!

I also have to remember that it’s only night three and prior to that I’ve been feeding every 1-2 hours and it’s been impossible to settle her without it, so actually progress is really being made!

Blabbyoak · 08/01/2022 09:52

That's incredible improvement @badgerBum ! Hope it continues for you xx

MintGreenLife · 08/01/2022 10:35

@BadgerBum brilliant news! I may have to try this!

I think last night was our worst so far. He would only do 20-30 mins in his crib at a time, and it would take several attempts to put him down in his crib, involving multiple feeds and rocking. By 4am he was waking the moment I put him down and wouldn’t sleep in his crib/cot/pram no matter how many times I tried. Feel awful today 😭

JammyRedRooo · 08/01/2022 11:58

@Jess9898

How was everyone's night?

@Jess9898 I think this can be fairly common in the sleep regression, I read somewhere that it's because the drive to sleep is highest at bedtime and then the problems start after midnight. My DD is exactly the same at the moment, one big ish chunk and then up every hour or two after the first waking.

I started going to bed at the same time as her just to get a chunk of sleep myself. It means I dont get an evening but needs must x

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