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Sleep regression. Anyone else want to join!? Sleepless mums!

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pinkgin1 · 16/11/2021 22:41

Currently going through what I believe could be a four month sleep regression? For ages my son slept really well didn't wake up in the night and if he did it was for one bottle then slept. Most nights slept 9:30pm till about 8am next day.
Has alllllllllll gone out the window the past week 🤣 I always knew the good sleep wouldn't last long and I appreciated it when it did but it's kinda making me feel extremely tired now including my partner🥱
How long does it last?? Will it go on for months?? Will I ever have a 8-8 again? 😥😥🤣
The strange thing is if he wakes up. As soon as I place him onto my bed and pillow he sleeps. So if it was a sleep regression surely he would wake also in my bed?

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ayylauren · 14/12/2021 02:44

@Mytigerhasstripeyfeet oh no definitely not Sad hope he settles for you

Kinko · 14/12/2021 02:48

Literally just gone through this. It's horrendous isn't it?!

4 weeks later and we're finally starting to see light at the end of the tunnel.

The thing that helped us was actually waking our baby up for a nighttime feed at a time that suited us, rather than her waking us up at all hours.

The other thing I learned - my baby just likes to have a cry before going to sleep. IShe has what I now call her sleep protest before drifting off for naps!

I don't know what happened but just last week we all woke up and I looked at her and she was just a different baby. I really can't explain it but maybe in a few weeks you'll message back and be like - yes this happened to me too! Haha. Just all of a sudden it was over.

Apparently it's not just a sleep regression it's a major developmental leap too (check out the Wonder Week app (or the book).

Good luck, try and enlist support from wherever you can! You'll need breaks.

Fran919 · 14/12/2021 04:35

@pinkgin1 - we’re on the prep machine. Any particular reason why you ask? I’ve got a refluxy baby and no matter how I make the bottle or even the ready made made no difference so we stuck with it for pure ease.

Been up for two feeds and a couple of resettles but so far no way near as many dummy put back ins.

@Kinko, so glad it passed for you, according to my WW app I’ve got this till start of week 20, in a way, thankfully it’s over Xmas so got DH to support!

@Mytigerhasstripyfeet oh no! I’m so sorry, I don’t know from previous messages but has your LO ever slept well? X

ayylauren · 14/12/2021 06:02

@Kinko its nice to read you weathered the storm and came out the other side. We're at around 4 weeks of it now and I'm hoping it'll let up soon.

We actually had a better night tonight, he slept from around 7-11, then till 1ish and then till nearly 4 but yet again woke by a impending poop. I'm just so annoyed because from the 1am wake up I haven't been able to get back to sleep so it's gunna be a long day and it's not even baby's fault, feels such a waste Confused

Hope everyone got on alright and has a good day today!

StickyStickyStickStickSong · 14/12/2021 08:12

Although we didn't beat the previous night of 4:17am before having him in with me I do feel we had a better night. He went down a lot earlier than normal at 7:30pm, woke for about half an hour at 9pm but I got him back to sleep and put him back in cot. He stirred at 11pm but I put his dummy in and he settled back down then didn't wake til 2:34am when he was wide awake and playful so I put him in with me and he slept til 7am. So not a bad night overall 👏🏻 had 2 decent stints for sleep 👍🏻

I prefer him going down earlier for the night. I managed to do some present wrapping between 7:30-9pm yay
Result 😆

Mytigerhasstripeyfeet · 14/12/2021 08:39

Thanks @Kinko for sharing, it did help reading that at 4am.

Really rough night here guys 😟I cried at about 5am because I couldn't make a decision about whether to put him down in the next2me or in my bed. Hah oh dear.

@Fran919 there was a magical time when he slept 8pm-4am with a 10pm dream feed, and then 4.30-7.30am. That feels like a long time ago now.

ayylauren · 14/12/2021 08:54

@StickyStickyStickStickSong that sounds like nice lil chunks of sleep! Sometimes just a few hours really helps doesn't it

Fran919 · 14/12/2021 08:55

Oh gosh, please don’t cry! Have you got plenty of support? Here’s me saying that but I’ve shed tears over the last week too 🤣

I don’t know if I’ve been ‘lucky’ that DD has never slept a stint longer than 3 hours not even the first day she was born without being held etc.

LCF2021 · 14/12/2021 09:07

Sounds more positive for some of us last night. Although….I wish I was exaggerating when I say I saw every hour last night. She just would not settle, even when co-sleeping. She fed SIX times as nothing else would work.

LCF2021 · 14/12/2021 09:09

@Mytigerhasstripeyfeet ohh sorry to hear about your night. It’s so hard to make any rational decisions at that time, especially when very little sleep has had. I can see myself hitting breaking point today, I need to source some cake to stave it off!

Mytigerhasstripeyfeet · 14/12/2021 09:19

@Fran919 yes my partner is great and we've been taking turns getting up through the night. But I have a cold am feeling extra rough.

Urgh @lcf2021 that sounds rough!

Maybe we need to set ourselves some nice Christmassy activities to cheer ourselves up. Like going for a coffee and mince pie. Or collecting holly.

Ok... I'm going to take myself out for a coffee when lo wakes from his nap 🙂 anyone else in?

ayylauren · 14/12/2021 09:45

@Mytigerhasstripeyfeet @LCF2021 sorry you two had rubbish nights sending virtual hugs. We need to reward ourselves wherever possible. I knew being a mum would be hard but I didn't realise just how hard it really is!! Thanks

pinkgin1 · 14/12/2021 10:44

@Fran919 does your calcium / descale button always flash despite descaling it?

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StickyStickyStickStickSong · 14/12/2021 12:59

@pinkgin1

Is anyone one on here using a prep machine?
@pinkgin1 yes I have the tommee tippee one x
StickyStickyStickStickSong · 14/12/2021 13:01

[quote pinkgin1]@Fran919 does your calcium / descale button always flash despite descaling it?[/quote]
I've not had the calcium one flash for me yet. I just run a boil water clean through it every Monday and I've had to change the filter once so far when it lit up but not had that CAL on light up on mine yet.X

pinkgin1 · 14/12/2021 13:06

@StickyStickyStickStickSong have requested a new replacement. Coming tomorrow new machine , Tommie Tippee are great for things like that. They say it flashes sometimes when it doesn't need cleaning so I said well how do I know when it actually does need a clean if keeps doing it anyway.
hopefully it doesn't do the same!!

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JammyRedRooo · 14/12/2021 18:43

Could I please ask those ladies who BF (or mostly BF) and LO is 4 months old how frequently they feed during the day, and how long for?

I used to feed DD every 2-3 hours for 30 mins absolute minimum but these days I struggle to get 10 minutes out of her. I still try not to leave it longer than 3 hours but she never seems interested anymore.

I'd say we average 5x per day at 15 minutes. Does that seem like enough? Feels like it might be part of the reason for her frequent night feedings...

ayylauren · 14/12/2021 19:00

Hey @JammyRedRooo my LO is EBF and 4.5 months and we feed around 5x per day too. Sometimes it is only 10 minutes but I can clearly see he's full. I'm pretty sure once they "learn" how to BF properly they get more efficient and take in milk better/faster. I try feed LO every 2-3 and most times he will take milk even if it's a short feed. I think the seeming less interested is also maybe because they're more aware of the world and there's more interesting things to do than feed. Whenever we visit DPs mother there's always lots of family there and even if DS is due a feed he won't have it, he doesn't want to miss outGrin hope some of this helps but I'm a FTM so definitely no expert

Mytigerhasstripyfeet · 14/12/2021 19:37

Hello! Usually 5 feeds here between 6am-6pm. He tends to do anything between 4m and 15m, I'd say most of the time it's 7m.

It really took me by surprise. Up until 7w we were ebf and a feed could take an hour. Had latch issues and were using shields, his weight gain wasn't ideal so we moved over to almost exclusively expressing. Around 14w he was finally weaned off the shields and suddenly started finishing a feed in 10m. I thought he surely can't be getting enough! But his weight gain has been great. Ebf again now.

He IS very easy to distract, I can't feed him with other people in the room unless they sit in silence, otherwise he wants to look at them. I quietly sniffed earlier and he popped off to stare at me! But I don't think he was eating longer in the day when he was sleeping better, if that makes sense.

LCF2021 · 14/12/2021 20:00

Mine usually has 6/7 a day for about 8-10 mins a time (I think!). They definitely get distractible at this age, my girl isn’t too bad at the mo but my son had FOMO…I used to have to sit in a dark silent room which made public feeds a nightmare and left me with my boob out frequently 😂
My daughter is stubborn already though, sometimes if she’s getting grumpy I tend to just stick her on the boob but if she’s not up for it or if she’s grumpy for another reason she just kicks off at me and gets shouty. My son would feed any time I offered it at home, no matter his mood!

JammyRedRooo · 14/12/2021 20:26

Ahh thanks everyone that makes me feel a lot better!!

I found a little projector thing in a bag of toys my SIL gave us that plays a lullaby and little images on the ceiling. Popped DD in bed with it on and she was sooo chill happily watching for a good 20 mins. Really thought she might doze off independently but shes ramping up the crying now so off I go to try something else doh!!

Hope everyone has a good night x

StickyStickyStickStickSong · 14/12/2021 22:50

Down at 7:30pm so far awake at 9:00, 10:00, 10:30.... I've just come up to bed after enjoying some TV and chill time with DH downstairs but I'm feeling a long night ahead 😴
Good luck ladies

JimHalpertsPA · 14/12/2021 23:00

Similar night here...I kept her up a little longer than usual hoping she would be more tired...hah! Been up 4 times in 2.5hrs. my house still looks like a bomb site but I've just been watching TV Grin long night ahead!

StickyStickyStickStickSong · 15/12/2021 00:04

11:30, 11:50..... and sod it he's in with me, I need some sleep 😴😴

LCF2021 · 15/12/2021 00:51

Awful night here. She’s been awake from 10.50pm, still awake now. Fed twice, just will NOT settle back to sleep and I’m at a total loss of what to do.
Seriously considering sleep training earlier than 6 months as I can’t handle so little sleep for another 6 weeks.