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SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 8 -- Pack the bags under your eyes and join us!

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RoRoMommy · 15/11/2007 20:04

Well...I had to think of something! DH's suggestion "Eyes wide shut--the art of sleepwalking"

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gingerninja · 03/02/2008 20:40

Meg, it took a little while for my dd to sort herself out with one nap a day but now has anything up to three hours and is pretty predictable. That was from 2, 1 hour naps. Sometimes she wants to sleep midmorning so 11-1ish or she'll go just after lunch say 12.30 -2.30 or thereabouts so she either gets an early lunch or a late one depending. The changing nap thing is very unsettling for a while.

Sleep feels much better here at the mo. Glad you're all feeling a bit better too.

MegBusset · 03/02/2008 21:48

Thanks Ginger. Glad to know it's not just me finding it troublesome. He actually gets through the day OK on one nap from 12.30-2ish but the waking after 45 mins does my nut in, he's nearly 1 so surely should have outgrown this by now! I do wonder if it's because I cuddle him to sleep for nap.

EffiePerine · 04/02/2008 12:50

Meg: it's getting more difficult to get DS down for a nap during the day if we're at home, I wondered if it was because we have a definite bedtime routine and not a naptime routine? He's been a bit unselttled the past couple of night and waking before 6am - I am doing my best not to complain as it is so so much better than before. 2 more teeth through so only the back molars to go...

EffiePerine · 04/02/2008 12:51

Rose; yay fpr the naps! I found that improved nap often led to improved sleep eventually, but there was a time lag.

charliemama · 04/02/2008 13:16

Naps, arrrrrrghhhh!

Ds2's sleep at night has improved so much, but naps in the day are a nightmare. I'm lucky if I can get 30 minutes out of him. Both DS1 and DD were having a lovely 2-3 hour nap at this age. I don't know what I can do. I have tried putting him down after lunch, leaving him to cry, but he still wakes after 1/2 and hour. As he is so demanding when he's awake it means I can gert nothing done and have no down time during the day.

So well done Rose on your napping star.

gingerninja · 04/02/2008 14:10

[gloat] we're in nap heaven here. It must be that you can have one but not the other.

Amberjee · 05/02/2008 12:15

Hello Hello Hello!
We are back from the snow. Not much sleep, but still a fab time away. Hope everyone has had their fair share of zzzz is the last 2 weeks.

gingerninja · 05/02/2008 14:58

Hi Amber, glad you had a nice time. DId DS enjoy the snow? I'd love for DD to see it. Perhaps we'll get some at the weekend as we'll be in Scotland!

We had a pretty good night last night. Woke at 3.30 to find DD in the hall way calling for daddy, bless her. She took a while to settle but then slept until 7. Another tooth has cut though

Stefka · 05/02/2008 15:41

I think I have to join this thread. I am so tired I feel sick. DS 15 weeks has decided he doesn't sleep anymore and I am not handling it well at all!

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 20:11

hello girls

Swaliswan · 05/02/2008 20:27

Hello Ladies. I've been sent over to join you all for some moral support by Tamdin

DD is 8mo and not exactly a terrible sleeper but bad enough that the HV took one look at me the other day, raised an eyebrow at the fact that she had been up 4 times the previous night and promptly arranged a home visit from the team's sleep specialist.

Hey ho, sleep is most definitely for the weak.

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 20:34

Hi swaliswan
ginger ninja started this thread a loooooooooooong time ago so between us all we've basically tried everything in the book!
I haven't been on for a long time (mn in general too actually)but you'll def find support/sympathy here.
I know it doesn't really help but with us it was a slowly slowly wins the race approach and he did sleep through eventually. I'm not made of tough enough stuff to do it any other way. There were days when i was asleep on my feet but these girls got me through. Sometimes just knowing that you, your child, your situation is totally normal and you're not alone can make all the difference.

gingerninja · 05/02/2008 20:58

Hey Tam, lovely to see you. Have you moved yet? Your DS turned two in Jan didn't he? Hope you're all well still.

Swaliswan and Stefka, welcome in. As Tam said, I (and some of the others have been around for sometime.) Hopefully Amber will be along to link to our blog soon. I can't even remember the address

Basically we've all tried lots of different things but I think the consensus is that some children are not as good at sleeping as others. After spending a lot of the early months fretting and trying to do something about it, ie routines, I gave up started co-sleeping and started getting more sleep. My DD was / is a baby that needed that bit of extra security. She was a tough colicy baby who cried when put down and was similar at night. It was really exhausting but it is amazing how you can forget it. Now, at 17 months the nights are manageable. She may make briefly once or if teething may wake for a loooong time but you do manage it.

There are classic growth spurt ages, 4, 6, 9 months or thereabouts (hopefully EP will correct me if I'm wrong) 4 months was absolutely awful for us but my DD has improved ten fold since about 13 months, she's still an early riser generally but I've just accepted an earlier bed time for myself.

Time and maturity are the key. I'm not a great believer in these 'bad habits' people talk about because it makes very little difference to us and how much DD sleeps. She's a law unto herself.

Tell us a little about your situation, what you want to achieve and we can give you some tips or at least some sympathy.

Amberjee · 05/02/2008 21:00

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Amberjee · 05/02/2008 21:02

LO has been literally running around all day and he only started walking about 2 weeks ago. if he doesn't sleep through tonight, I'll be darned.
Hugs and kisses to ginger and tam and the new girls Swali and Stefka.

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 21:04

hi ginge! yes he turned 2 on 25th Jan. will have to post some more pics soon. he looks so grown up. dh asked me tonight overrdinner when did i think i'd like to try for another baby. think he's keen!

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 21:07

hi ginge! yes he turned 2 on 25th Jan. will have to post some more pics soon. he looks so grown up. dh asked me tonight overrdinner when did i think i'd like to try for another baby. think he's keen!

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 21:07

sorry you can tell i'm a bit rusty!

gingerninja · 05/02/2008 21:12

Ah Tam, that's lovely. [whispers, think we might try towards the summer months, am I barking mad?] Is the little man in his own bed yet or still snuggling up with you two?

Amber, I can get my DD to walk to the shops and she still doesn't flippin sleep!!!

She's such a chatter box at the moment and is repeating everything. Having to be so careful with the bad language now

MegBusset · 05/02/2008 21:47

Hi all

Tam so nice to see you!

Amber glad you had a good time, what did LO think of the snow?

Ginger we have a swear box to try to wean ourselves off the naughty words before DS starts picking them up. If nothing else he will have a decent college fund

Welcome Stefka and Swaliswan. You will get lots of sympathy here. It is so tough but there is light at the end of the tunnel. DS was awful awful awful at sleeping (lovely in every other way of course!) but sleeps through now, mostly. We ended up doing controlled crying out of sheer desperation but there are lots of other ways to get more sleep, we co-slept for a while and it saved my sanity, I do miss it sometimes although DS is so big and wriggly now I don?t think it?d be practical!

Went to the hospital today for another appt about his eczema, he had to have a blood test for food allergies (is allergic to milk and lentils so they are checking for other stuff like egg, soya, nuts etc). He was so brave about it but obviously wore him out as he flaked out in the car on the way home and didn?t wake when we got home so we put him down in his cot with his coat and shoes still on .

He has a cold and is cutting two more teeth (that?s five since Christmas!) so not sure how settled tonight will be?

PS Have you all had your pancakes yet?

Tamdin · 05/02/2008 21:56

hi meg. good to 'see'you too. Glad to hear you're doing so well and ds is sleeping for you

Ginger think we might aim for the summer months too. do you think we could both be back on here with no.2 in spring next year!!

is tibs still around? x

MegBusset · 05/02/2008 22:07

at those who might be making new babies... am seriously broody, DH too, but we have decided to wait another year or two as we are only planning on having two and I want a 3/4-year age gap ideally. But I so want to be pregnant again...

gingerninja · 05/02/2008 22:12

Tibsy hasn't been around for ages. Think her little lady started sleeping. I miss her. I thought about making the break at the begining of the year (after a full year here) but I can't seem to let go.

Stefka · 06/02/2008 13:57

Another bad night and today he's not napping. I don't understand why he has gone from sleeping 8 hours at night and having a 2 hour nap in the day to not napping in the day and being up half the night. I feel slightly insane!

IAteRoseMaryConleyForBreakfast · 06/02/2008 15:37

Quickie as am BFing large and squirmy DS and have tons to do!

Hi swali and Stefka! I think I'm the baby in here with DS only being 6m - but what a 6m! Stefka, I can honestly say by your stage I was pretty much crazy with lack of sleep and terrible fighting with naps. By the 5th month things were markedly improving and now much, much better. Last night [drum roll] he slept 6.30 - 12.30 with a 'dreamfeed' (DP dared me!) at 10. OK so it was the first and only time it's happened but it was the longest sleep he's ever had!

Am back to work this week so DS staying with his dad dyuring the day, sleepless but sure they'll work it out. Glad you had fun Amber, good luck to ginger for snow for you too, and hi to everyone else [waves]