SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 8 -- Pack the bags under your eyes and join us!

[RoRoMommy]

Well...I had to think of something! DH's suggestion "Eyes wide shut--the art of sleepwalking"

HOW cute is your DS, Meg? And you have your tree up already? A bit organised there, I feel

Hi All

I have no time at all really as should be working but I wanted to say Hi to Booboobunny and to tell you that my 15 month old DD has a double bed (just a matress actually)because I really couldn't be faffed with a cot any more. She moves around alot it would seems so a bed has been great. She hated her cot and we co slept from when she awoke anyway so now either I or DH sleep with her and we can lay down with her to go to sleep (going to sleep has got so much easier with this approach). When everyone is well again we might try getting up and going back to our own room in the night if we need to attend to her as we've had a couple of technical sleep throughs this week (I say technical because they were only until 5 oclock. DD is such an early bird, as I used to be, but 5 oclock? come on that's not fair, six I can handle)

Hi to everyone else

Update on my situation, DD much better, hence the sleep improvement. DH on the other hand, worse. his physical symptoms are not as bad but the ones he's left with are seriously upsetting him mentally. I think we are on the verge of depression or anxiety at least. Not good. Still, sleep throughs eh?

ginger - big hugs huni, men eh ,the root of all our problems! at sleep thrus, marvellous!

we're not moving anymore as i'm pg, i would need to go back to work to afford the bigger mortgage, so staying put for alittle longer. he was adamant before that he didn't want more, but never did anything to prevent it! he said i could have another after the wedding, but that was all a lie to keep me! he'll just have to get over it as i dont agree with abortion, esp. when you're in a relationship!

Anyhows Amber - so glad you got there safe and are having a great time, it;s all rainy here so you;'re well out of it!

Beal: I'm sure you can work it out between you . If he wasn;t useing contraception it's his decision as well as yours.

Ginger: sorry you're going through a tough time. Is you DH still off work? My DH is dreadful at being ill, mainly cos he has a great immune systme and usually shrugs off any bugs. Hope things improve soon.

Hello All. I've been a bit down recently. DS2 has been a bit of a nightmare day and night. I took him shopping today while DS1 was at school and DD at preschool. The little b*!!@r gave everyone adorable grins and lots of nice old ladies said how sweet he was.

DH is away tonight so I am hoping for a not too disruptive night as I have to get DS1 and DD up and ready in the morning. I usually have to do this anyway because DH leaves for work at 7, but it seems more daunting knowing I am on my own in the night aswell.

Are you OK Beal? I'm worried about you. Congrats on the pg, but how are you feeling about things with your DF?

G'day Amber

Hurray RoRo is back I missed you.

I hope you feel better soon EP.

Meg I am so pleased that things are working out for you. You're over the worst of it now. Your experience gives me hope that one day I may to sleep again.

Welcome PNAW and Boo. Sorry that you have to join but its nice to have you here. Everyone is very supportive and this is defitely the place to be.

Beal, sounds like your DF needs a lesson in how babies are made . I hope he's going to do the right thing and face up to his responsibility. How is he now?

Ginger for poorly DH, sounds like it's really getting him down. Has he been to the GP lately? I know it can be tough getting men there, DH has to practically have a leg hanging off before he'll even consider it. Hope you are remembering to take care of yourself as well.

EP, at pesky cough. We were actually a bit late with the tree, normally it goes up on Dec 1 but we only got it yesterday. DS is fascinated with it (we got a fake one to avoid more trips to A&E with needle-related injuries).

Also the hour last night wasn't full-on crying, more intermittent grizzling, so I don't think it was teeth, more just that he is still not 100% used to going to sleep on his own. Still seems much more manageable than previously, though, and I'm very proud of him for the progress.

CM hope the kids aren't playing up tonight. that you've been feeling down. How old is DS2 now? Could it be teething causing upset?

god is it really morning already? another shitty night with DS2 is 9months a growth spurt time? we had few sleep trus and then last night pretty much same as night before, bed at 7 , awake at 11:30, 12:30 and then up for day at3!

Meg and CM thanks for the concern. he said he's definately not coming to 12week scan with me, says he doesn't think he'll be able to love something he doesn't want! he said this about ds2 and granted the first 6monts were hard but he's over it! he hates the baby stage! i can understand it really but i know i'm gona need as much supprt as possible and feel he not giving it to me. i'll be 21 with 3 poss 4 (if twins) under3!

hope you all slept better. meg - glad CC is working for you, something had to!

Beal you definitely need your partner's support. Is there someone else who will go to the scan with you if he won't? 9 months is a notoriously bad time for sleep, hope it settles down for you soon, 3am is a killer!

Our night good:
Bed 7.30 (asleep in 8 mins)
Awake 4.45 (grizzled on and off for 30 mins)
Awake 7.15 for the day

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oh bloody bum, just typed a huge messagE and lost it

Beal: have you got anyone to come to scans with you and poss be a birth partner as well? Must be hard if your DF isn't keen on small babies. 3 under 3 . I hadn;t taken it in that 1 and 2 were that close together. And are you wishing twins on yourself ?

Another unsettled night for us, but did manage to get DS to bed at a reasonable hour and keep him there.

Yay for your continued success Meg . 7:30 - 4:45 is great! I'd love DS to get down to one waking a night. Are you aiming to drop that one too?

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beal i hope your df comes round soon and offers you the support you need (((hugs)))

hi roro and amber (((hugs)))

meggy what a christmassy cutie patootie and well done with the sleeping

charlie youre down. feel free to CAT me if you want a 'chat'

EP hope you feel better soon

ginger poor dh. its hard when the menfolk are ill, especially if theyre down. dp is the steady one of us, and if he feels blue and a bit wobbly, it knocks me too. can talk to you about it? (((hugs)))

i hope i got everyone
well, we've had 2 good nights. brief murmurings when i get into bed, then nothing til morning

ginger sorry, that should have said can your dh talk to you about it?

EP, of course in an ideal world LO would sleep right through til 7, but one waking (and no feeding) is such a colossal improvement on where we were a week ago that I am not complaining at all. And tbh I am finding it less stressful to leave him to settle himself (while popping in every few mins) than hours bent over the cot getting him to settle, only for him to wake again a few minutes later.

Yay for your good night Tibs

Did anyone else get woken up by the wind last night, though?

Beal, good luck to you. I really hope the best for you. Chin up, sweetie!

Ginger, I am so glad DD is feeling better. I hope your DH feels better, too.

Amber, hope you're enjoying the weather down under. We miss you! Isn't it fun to watch the LOs explore new places (and, of course, to have everyone marvel at how adorable your LO is? ).

CM, I missed you, too. I am so sorry you're feeling down. Just remember, one day you'll look back and this will all be a faint memory amidst your newfound peaceful family...or something like that!

Hooray Meg for your good night! That's an incredible improvement. Good for you. And DS is so adorable in that photo, how do you stop yourself from eating him alive! The wind, actually, lulled me to sleep. I loved it.

Tibs, you're such a sweetheart. We don't have any plans for New Year's, and I think maybe I'd like to go to ... erm ... Herefordshire? Hefferefordshire? Fereleisecester? What is it with all of these English city names?!?!? Anyway, your DD gives me hope for my DS.

EP, I hope your cough gets better soon. You're always making me smile, so here's one big for you, lovey! We're going to Budapest for Christmas, but we'll be here for New Year's...I guess we got that the wrong way 'round!

I hope you all have a great weekend. Our nights have been pretty good. DH has been on the couch, so no snoring problems, and DS has been sleeping very well. He still wakes at 2am for a feed, but my mom has gotten us putting him down at 8pm, so now he's sleeping until after 6am and I get to spend more time with him in the evening!

Hooray for moms, and grandmas. I wish you all a good night's sleep.

xxx(((hugs)))xxx

morning all, an improvement here last night, but still bloody awful. both to bed at 7, both up at 12. ds2 up at 2,3 and awake for day at 5. ds2 awake at 5 too! ds2 now back to sleep, cant wait till naptime later, i'm definately joining them.

reading the continuum concept atm, it is bloody fantastic!

yea my best mate was my birthing partner with ds2 and will do it again will dc3. DF can look after our 2, and her 2! it'll be fine, i said if he didn;'t want to come to scans or be at birth or anything then i get choose name and how i give. with ds2 he didn't want me to have a HB, i'm set on it this time round!

RoRo - glad things are improving for you. Mums really can be useful sometimes. hows she finding uk?

Meg - i think you're great, sticking to your guns and seeing it through. i'm so glad you're less stressed, as a result and you happier?

EP - hope last night was more settled for you

tibs of your sleep thrus!

Beal, good for you on going for what you want with DC3. I think I might try for a home birth next time round, too. (Having said that, with DS I was very grateful to be near an epidural in the end!). And at least you weren't up at 3 today.

RoRo for your nights, sounds like they're going well.

Hope everyone else had good sleep too.

Our night:
Bed 7.30 (asleep in 3 mins)
Few grumblings in the night but self-settled with all
Had to wake him at 7.30 this morning!

Meg I am so happy for you and your family. Just one question why wake him? I was less worried about waking DD in the morning and she often now can sleep for 14 hours!!!

I hope you get the experience you want Beal. My MWs have always encouraged me to have a home birth and my DH has always been set against it. I have never been bothered either way TBH!!! With DS2 I ended up changing hospitals 4 hours before he arrived so my midwife could deliver him. That caused a bit of a kerfuffle, especially as we had never been to the new hospital before!!! We arrived at 1.15 and DS2 arrived at 3.15.

DS2 seems a bit happier today, but I am still really struggling with his sleeps day and night so I am very tired and so still feeling low.

Have just spotted Christmas emoticons!!

hello everyone. LO is being a bit of a pita at the moment (though cute enough when he wants to be). maybe he's just adjusting to another place and another time zone, but my patience was really tested today.

also i sort of got in trouble for giving LO back an apple that fell on the floor in a restaurant. they are apparently worried about him getting meningococcal or something like that

LO has also been staying up 2-3 hours per night, generally 12-3 stretch, so last night i didn't get myself to sleep until 4am due to my jet lag and LO's waking. eh well. that's the price you pay for sun huh?

go the homebirth beal!! it is truly wonderful.

CM for feeling low. Is there anything we can do? (Apart from lending a sympathetic ear and virtual hug!)

BTW I woke him because if he gets up any later then his naps go to pot, he refuses a morning nap til late and then ends up needing his second nap too late in the day. I'm so used to his daytime routine that I don't really want it to change!

Hi Amber Hope you are enjoying the sunshine (it's pissing down here). Hopefully LO's body clock will adjust soon and you'll be getting a full night's sleep. I got appalling jetlag when I went to Australia.

god my jet lag is shocking too at the moment. am now awake at 5am after being asleep for 4 hours. at least i'm a sleep deprivation veteran. am not actually sure how tonight has gone with LO, because dh went and did the hard yards when he woke at 12.45 and i put my earplugs in and went to sleep
i really pray that LO is going to have a tooth break through, or at least that he is going to be a bit better behaved today. is it too early to be entering tantrum-time at 11 months. LO goes mad everytime i try to put him in highchair or carseat, i take away a toy, he drops a toy and wants it, he throws a toy and wants it, he doesn't want to go to sleep etc etc. he's learned this really high pitched scream/yell and it's unpleasant as hell.
meg and RoRo, sounds like you've managed to really improve your LO's sleep - amazing!

Meg how absolutely fantastic. Really chuffed for you. Can't believe how quickly he's got it what a clever little man.

RoRo, well done to you too. Have you ditched the nanny in favour of your mum then? Glad she's here to help. Does she fancy adopting me?

CM and Beal, sorry for your rough nights/ days. I'm with ya'll there.

Anyway, gotta dash but here's to good nights for all.

Gosh what busy bees!

Well done Meg, tibsy and Ro for top sleeping! And Amber ... sunshine! But not the jetlag and hyper child obviously

All the best beal, I'm sure DP will come round (like he's got a choice !

CM hope things are OK with you - it can't go on forever right?

Hope things are settled with you Effie, and that they improve with you ginger, sounds suspect there.

Mediochre here - still battling with these sodding 45 minute naps interspersed with new 20 minute ones. Lots of resettling in the evenings and restless at night.

Am online because the film I had planned to watch started at 6.30 ...

Never mind, I have choccie biscuits and booze!