SLEEP IS FOR THE WEEK part 7 -- prop your eyes open with matchsticks here

[MegBusset]

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evening all
roro and charlie for your nights darlings. hope you get some rest tonight x

roro - love the new pics of your wee man, especially the one in the leaves and the top one, very cheeky look about him

charlie - your children are absolutely adorable, thank you for sharing the pics with us

tam - for your night my love

amber - yay for continued success my darling

csb - yay for your mum!!! hope you get some rest tonight x

spoke to sil on the hospital phone today. she sounded so tired, not sure when shes having her chemo yet, guess she needs to recuperate to some extent from the hysterectomy i just feel so sad for her, and i cant seem to shake it, having cancer is shitty enough, without having to have your womb removed as well. i know it needed to be done, but its the finality of it. god, i'm sorry, i just need to get it out and dont want to upset dp any more than he is already. nobody knows yet as her boys dont know that it is cancer, they just know she had to have the op. i cant stop crying

Thank you for the sweet words about our little guy, we sure do love him!

I am so sorry about your SIL. That really is awful, the operation, and knowing how to tell the boys. I know it's a small consolation, but I am thinking of you and your family tonight and sending (((hugs))).

roro - its not a small consolation at all. thanks so much for your thoughts. x

am off to bed, so night all. hope you all get some rest. we had a sleep thru last night hope we have another tonight!

tibs you poor soul, it's hard when you can't even let it out to your DP. I am sure you will all feel more positive with time.

good morning...

bed at 730, feed at 1030, 3 and 430, up at 530. i feel pretty good...plus v. cuddly DH in bed with us!

hope there are other good nights out there.

hello, hello, hello

tibs - sorry to hear about SIL. glad she's feeling positve. if you dont mind answering, how old is she?

ok so i'm back! the break lasted one night! it wasn't a break in the slightest, mum and dad both out for all of sat and sun, so looked after the kids all day by myself in a house that i dont know my way around df came to pick us up last night and we've sorted things out for good. we're gona try and move and get a totally fresh start!

Saturday night blardy awful. DS2 sicky all day, he not very well sleep at 7, awake at 1, 3,4,5,6 ds1 very unsettled, bed at 7, woke at 9, 11, 1, then in bed with me from 2 til 4, 5,6 was shattered! last night ds1 more settled s back home, woke once at 4, ds2 blobked nose so cant breathe when dummy in, have been awake since 5, he woke every hour hopefully i'll get some sleep today when they go back off!

morning all.

beal glad you and df are ok

roro glad you had a better nigt 10.30-3 was a good stretch

Tibs mum had cacer of the endometriun 4 years ago. she had 3 tumours and had a complete hysterectomy and removal of lymphs. She is completely clear now and has totally put it behing her she sid the other day she doesn't even think about it anymore. Hope sil can take some comfort from this.

Beal! That's great news about DF, a fresh start will be just the thing. SO SORRY about the crappy sleep, tho, you must be so knackered. I hope everyone can get some naps in today.

Thanks, Tam! It sure feel pretty close to normal today.

Where are Meg, Ginger, Amber, Skirmish, Effie, Chibi...?? Sleeping, I hope!

Off to work, talk to you ladies later!

morning all

roro for your night and your cuddly dh!!!!

beal - thankyou for your thoughts. sil is just 45, no age at all. still, shes fit and otherwise healthy, so am sure that will stand her in good stead for recovery. for your weekend. what a shame you didnt get a break, but for sorting things out with df. thats great news.

tam - thats really good to hear. thankyou my lovely and so glad to hear that your mum came through and doesnt think of it xx i'm guessing another good night?

meggy, how is your little man now?

our night ok,
bed at 6.30pm
restless when i got into bed at 10.30pm just needed a couple of rubs to her back
woke at 4.40am for water
5.30am bf
back to sleep til 7.30am so dp and i had a coffee in peace!!

hope there were some more good uns out there

Hello

RoRo, early start but glad you're feeling good. tibsy, glad you had an OK night, but poor bealcain, you sound like you need a holiday after that weekend , hope DS feels better soon.

Well LO had his screamathon last night as usual, DP and I both end of tether with it to be honest but just haven't a clue how to avoid the overtired/overstimulated meltdown each day. Everyone says to bring bedtime forward but I've tried winding him down at 4pm to no avail ... as the day goes by he just gets more and more wired, not the other way round ... ... BUT when I went to bed around 11 he was asleep on my shoulder, and started to waken as I got him in hos grobag and fed him. However, I then moved him into his sidecar cot and although he cried for a few minutes he then went to sleep by himself again, which has to be good, huh?!

He woke and came in with me at 1ish then woke several times, couldn't bring myself to look at the clock TBH, but as he must be feeling the beginnings of this cold too I can forgive him . He's fallen asleep again so I've had time to get myself up and fed .

Hoping everyone else is still in bed!

tibs of your coffee in peace!

can't complain mil took ds on sat morning for 2 hours and dh and i went into town. managed to have a starbucks on our everything!

another good night with us.
put ds to bed at 8 (i decided to stay in beside him but i was so tired last night)
woke at 6.50 for the day

x post CBS. how is he napping during the day?

Tamdin good night!!!!!

He hates napping, 45 minutes max, sometimes even if I am hovering with a boob after 40! He needs way more sleep than he gets, he's rubbing his eyes after 45 minutes of waking up most mornings. As the day progresses he gets more and more jittery and overstimulated. He just doesn't know how to switch off, he's incredibly alert and bright and interested and cries if you take him out of stimulating situations to wind him down, he's so desperate to be involved and not miss out. I have known him get overstimulated and have a meltdown because he's watched me wash dishes!

I just do whatever it takes, if we get 4x45min naps we're doing well in a day but it still doesn't avoid the nighttime madness. Hoping he'll grow out of it. Would love an 8-6 stretch too though.

morning everyone, gee even i'm finding it tricky to keep up with posts.

tibs - positive thoughts to you SIL, i'msure she'll come through it nice and strong with the likes of you looking out for her.

tam- glad you had a super early night. i feel i need to do that once a week to stay sane.

beal - am glad things are sorted with df, though that you didn't get pampered by your mum.

csb - am at a loss about your won't go to sleep in the evening child. am wondering if it comes down to naps as well. does he need to have a late afternoon nap so not as tired at bedtime. other than that, just loads of sympathy my dear.

glad you had a better night RoRo.

ours was good, up at 10, 5.30 and then up at 7.30.

ur all gona think i'm a broken record, but seriuosly CSB have you tried slings? you can get on with what you need to do and he can have the confort of being held close and i found that ds2 started sleeping better and then i was able to put him down to sleep. there's looads of articles on ways they can help at thebabywearer dot com.

CSB, sounds totally like my LO at that age. they do get better!!

xpost.....they#re mean to help with colic and reflux too...and if you have awindy baby they burp the best burps ever in them!

Thanks Amber and beal, I've had so much kind advice and help from MNers I think I must have tried everything out there! I use a sling a lot, have a nice soft KariMe which he sleeps in (it's great, by covering his head he can't see so gives up after a minor strop and goes to sleep).

He definitely needs a late afternoon nap but as the day goes on he gets harder and harder to get to sleep so by late afternoon it can take literally hours to get him to sleep for 20 mins. Added to this he won't be put down to sleep anywhere, and he weighs 17lbs+, and it's getting to be a bloody toil!

Never mind. Well done on having a good night Amber, it is cheering to hear these stories of good nights from people who've obviously been to hell and back with the old sleepless nights torture

tam for your early night. dp and i had a starbucks yesterday, but had to make it a takeout as dd kicked off was thinking of getting a lighthearted book, think youve read the no.1 ladies detective agency books? what did you think? dont want anything with romance, sex or pregnancy in as its for sil

amber for your night

csb - dd used to be just like that. its so frustrating, but honestly, it does get better (((hugs)))

So many posts! not sure I can remember everything as feeling pretty ill today. I've got a cold. DD is unwell too so we're feeling sorry for ourselves today. She had a massive pooathon (very upset tummy) at 1.30 in the night and was absolutely covered bless her so I had to change all her clothes and bed and DH took over until 6. SO we're all feeling a little fragile today. Molar is just breaking the surface it would appear.

RRM, My DH used to always make comments about being on MN. I think he was worried it was a men bashing site. But he knows it's helped me through some very tough times so is a bit more supportive these days. I don't have friends and family close by so it's a life line to me and the friends I do have are just not at the same place in their life / never had the same sleep issues so mn puts you in touch with people in a similar situation and for that I wouldn't give it up.

Tibsy, for SIL. I don't have the words I'm affraid but I can give you a big cyber[hug]]

Charlie & RRM your Lo's are beautiful

CSB, my DD was also a colicy baby and it is such hard work. That relentless crying is so incredibly draining. I hope you get some respite. It does fel like an eternity when you're living it but in a few months you'll barely remember it, I promise.

Hooray to Tibs, Tam, Amber!

Ginger, thanks for that. I feel the same way as you re: the support, particularly in the face if so little support from family (far away) and friends (no context). Poor DHs...if only they had a dadsnet...tho they'd probably just talk sports and, god knows what all else. DH thinks he's got DS all figured out anyway, he'd never post a question. It's like how men will never ask for directions. Hilarious.

I am feeling much more hopeful about the job situation, and that is all down to the help of mn'ers. Nothing has changed, but somehow everything is different. That said, it was a real sad night last night because we had such a fab weekend with DS.

Crap--Ginger, I meant to say that I hope you and DD feel better soon!

Is it time to start a SIFTW Part 8?

RoRo glad you are feeling a bit better about work. it's still early days and it is a massive adjustment to make i'm sure.

hope you and dd feeling better soon ginger.

i reckon we can eek this thread out for another 100 posts or so

Hello! Haven't been around for afew days as we were away for the weekend. Ha at those thinking we were off having some sleep! Teeth still coming through - not only is DS walking up every couple of hours again but he wakes up yelling so I'm startled awake as well. Hopefully he will settle down soon... he needs to have his MMR in the next week or so as well so that'll shake things up a bit too.

Tibs: so sorry for your news. Has your SIL been offered counselling? It's hard when they need to take such drastic measures quickly. Hope the treatment goes well. My mum had treatment for breast cancer a few years back but managed to avoid the chemo (in fact she flatly refused it and her doctors luckily agreed). Re books, I really like Alexander McCall Smith and think it would be a good choice.

Haven't had time to read through everyone's posts so apologies! Beal: glad you sorted things out with your DF . You've had a rocky time of it lately!

Has Skirmish had her baby yet? Surely it should be along soon...