8 week old awake crying for 12 hours

[Kaceywd]

Hi all,
My son turned 8 weeks yesterday. He still wakes up every two hours during the night but these last two weeks he spends the whole day awake and crying. Today he woke up at 6 am from his last nap and he's still awake. I try feeding burping massage playing singing rocking everything I can but all he does is cry and squirm. I'm at a point where I'm crying everyday out of frustration and I don't know how long I can do this. Is it normal? Please some advice :(

[SEE123]

Hi OP - also have them re-check his milk. My DS is also CMPA and could only tolerate Neocate. Some hypoallergenics still contain some broken down proteins - Neocate does not. There is also an excellent support group on Facebook with lots of suggestions on there. If you are also BFing - you need to ensure you have eliminated all traces of dairy from your own diet but make sure you get calcium supplements from the GP (over the counter ones aren't strong enough, so I was told).
Sorry to hear it's been so shitty - I promise it does get better x

[Stonecrop]

Could it be GERD? Also maybe check out cranial osteopathy

[converseandjeans]

Definitely get a pram. Even something smaller that reclines. You don't need a huge giant thing that takes up loads of room. More of a fold down buggy. You can go for walks at least to get out the house.

[Kaceywd]

Hi all sorry for the late reply. Today he woke up at 5 am (he's lovely during the night) fed, played a bit and started winding and massaging him. Then dh came home played a bit, fed him and now he's asleep on the nursing pillow. So far so good I hope he remains calm.

I'm not breastfeeding but I want to relactate. It's been three Weeks I hope I manage to at least combi feed.

Will check some prams on dh day off and start going on walks it will probably help me mentally as well.

We tried comfort milk (we tried everything before snapping and getting the pepti) it made him really constipated.

[perfume577943]

@Cupoftchaiagain

U have got to pick a destination and go for it though, I swear they can tell if u r just going round the block and won’t fall for it!

Hahah you reckon? That made me laugh x

[Kaceywd]

We have a bouncy chair and a swing, he hates both. We also tried different dummies, didn't take to any of them.
(he sounds like the grinch but I promise he's lovely)

[perfume577943]

Yes you need a pram you wouldn't survive without one, you won't be able to go anywhere as you can't carry a baby and all the things a baby needs on your own. If you're nervous about taking him out start with a 5 min stroll close to home and build it up, it will do you and baby the world of good. Don't give up too quickly if he is unsure at first either, he might need a few mins to relax in there x

[minipie]

Today 08:58 Kaceywd

Hi all sorry for the late reply. Today he woke up at 5 am (he's lovely during the night) fed, played a bit and started winding and massaging him. Then dh came home played a bit, fed him and now he's asleep on the nursing pillow.

Hi so he woke at 5 and went back to sleep at maybe 8.30? At 8 weeks he probably needs much less awake time than that, from nemory I would say 2 hours ish of awake time between sleeps. If you try getting him back to sleep earlier after his last sleep it may go easier.

[AriettyHomily]

Oh my goodness, get a pram, today!

[Thesearmsofmine]

I would look into a good sling, people carry their children for years so a 14lb baby is no issue so either the sling isn’t a good one or it isn’t fitted correctly. I barely used a pram with ds3(and I don’t drive) so it is possible to go without one but you do need a decent carrier if you go down that route.

[yawnsvillex]

My baby did this for 2 years ... cried all day for 2 years!

Now he's a wonderful 7 year old with a heart of gold, smart, caring and lovely.

Hang in there, it all comes good.

[Kaceywd]

Today has been a particularly bad day for us. We started out well but around midday he started screaming and crying, and totally ruined his night sleep as well (if he doesn't sleep at 6pm he won't all night). It's like the wind forms in his tummy minutes after drinking milk. I feel like I spent 5 hours a day winding him and there's always more. There's no way he's gulping all that air. I'm frustrated and I cry every day and I'm irritated with dh for no reason really i just can't help it. I will ask to change his milk again. Its been two awful months and I hate to say this but I'm afraid of having more kids in case they're like ds. :(

[Kaceywd]

I get anxiety every time he grunts or moves in his sleep worrying that he will wake up and start over again. I'm not well

[Anotherducker]

Hope you’re both asleep now.

You’ll feel better if you’ve got a plan. I think you need to contact HV and GP on Monday (or tomorrow if yours is open) for some more support and ask for a referral to a paediatrician to test for allergies.

I know how awful it is, you feel like every day is torture and it’s so stressful, but it won’t be forever. Can you get a break from him so you can recharge your batteries?

[Kaceywd]

@anotherducker I asked for referral they declined said he doesn't need it. It's no support it feels like it's me against the Gp at this point.

Dh works night shifts and needs to sleep during the day and on his days off he needs to do everything in the house cause the few hours ds sleeps I need to sleep as well. He can hold him for a few hours but he can't wind him well and that makes everything more difficult for me so I choose to hold the baby for him to do everything else.

[Jenasaurus]

I would contact your GP or Health Vistor, my DS was the same and it turned out to be an ear infection causing him pain.

[Anotherducker]

Sounds really hard OP. Have you got any other support?

Could the HV advocate for you at the doctors?

[BananaBMumma]

Have you tried feeding with different bottles and tears? We used Mam anti colic and I’ve heard dr browns are good too. Definitely get a pram fot your mental health and general ease.

[Itllbeaninterestingchristmas]

I had this with my first he was gaining weight had cmpa and just screamed. My second lost weight at an alarming rate GP didn’t want to see us just sent us straight to the hospital and the care has been brilliant.

It’s the weekend now the GP is closed until Monday. If your baby screams and can’t be settled over the weekend call 111 and ask for an out of hours gp appointment. You’ll get one, it should be in hospital and with lick they’ll refer you to the paediatrician. Do record a video of your baby screaming

[Weenurse]

We ended up with goats milk formula for DD2, turned out, she had a dairy allergy.

[Kaceywd]

@bananabmumma we use Dr Brown's

@Itllbeaninterestingchristmas we have been to the hospital 3 times with videos and a screaming baby all they say is "aw bless him he has colic it will pass". I know form the second they ask if its my first baby how it will go. I feel like taking him back to my home country and go privately but I'm afraid with covid.

@Jenasaurus how did they find out?

@anotherducker we spoke to the hv for the first time yesterday, she said colic as well. In their opinion, as long as he's gaining weight and not bleed he has colic. It's crazy how a baby need to be so unwell he has bloody nappies to consider an allergy

[Kaceywd]

He threw up his whole bottle twice, had to give him some comfort milk to keep down and manage to sleep a bit but I know he will wake up crying and be constipated :(

[whyareyoulying]

You have mentioned that
You've tried different mills etc for little one but it mentioned if you've tried anything for colic?
There are a few things that you can try such as gripe water, infacol and colief (this worked best for us)
Also have you tried any of the colicassage techniques? Bicycles legs was a great one for us to help with wind and bowel movements.

Any luck on the pram front? If you're buying brand new what's the budget and what are you looking for with regard to features?

[EmilyDoesntKnowHerStuff]

This sounds exactly like my DD was!! I really really feel for you, it still haunts me now.

Have you tried gripe water? That really saved us!! It really seemed to help with constipation and trapped wind. Even now we use it from time to time and DD is 19 months old!

I promise things will get better in time. I remember how miserable those times were especially seeing other babies so happy and easy in comparison. Just take each day as it comes xxx

[whyareyoulying]

Dear god, just attempted to read that back. You can tell I've not slept tonight!