SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

Skirmish, my DS has two very sharp teeth, but hasn't bitten me while feeding yet. Today he did lunge at my arm though... not quite sure how best to react, I try a stern "Ouch... don't do that" but he laughs his head off! Wonder if I should ignore it rather than react at all...

The last couple of days he has started to get suddenly very attached to random objects and get upset if you take them away from him. Yesterday it was a wooden spoon, today a pack of baby wipes . Weird kid!

Hi Fizz btw sorry that you find yourself here though.

meg attachment to random objects made me lol you gotta admit they are funny

hi girlies and a big welcome to fizz although you need to be iyswim

tam for you feeling unwell, looking after lo and feeling fluey, not a good combo, hope dh is around this weekend to help out

amber, youre very welcome my love, hope that hospital appt comes soon

ibs, to see you, hope all goes well for your return to work and lo settles in well

meggy, hope lo feeling better

ginger hi and yep, managed to clear lo's sore bum by using it worked really well, and boy, was it sore

skirmish for your day ad the vomiting, hope your night was an improvement

chibi - as everyone says, it does get easier, and its definitely enabled me to get more sleep than i would have had. my dd is now in a bedside cot (that i didnt know i had ) so it means shes directly by my side, but we've got more space....alternatively, you could use a bedrail when lo is bigger or get a 7ft bed as tam intends to

and a big hi to EP, havent seen you for a while, hope all's well

tam, and a big well done to your little man and his impeccable behaviour at pizza express. what a star

morning hey tibs how's things with you? any nice plans this weeeknd?

another good night for us. ds woke once (not sure what time) had a drink of water (we have officially weaned off milk) and went back to sleep so we're just up!

dh must have gone out for a run as he's not here

Do any of the LO,s on here ever sleep through? I mean I know they will one day, but how old is the oldest one, and when did they go through?

Morning everyone

Have been away at first aid course this week, then no time in the evenings. Now passed and fully qualified to treat papercuts . They do a baby one as well, was considering going on it - has anyone else done this?

Lots to read through, so hope haven't missed anything.\

Amber: I found 9-10 months really tough, as evidenced by my posts at the time! Lots of things going on at once, sep anxietym teeth, moving about, it just aded up to a very unsettled baby. I gthink one of the hardest things is not knowing how naps/sleep etc is going to go - could be doable or a complete nightmare. DS also pulls at my top even though I'm not bfing during the day any more - has also started doing it to our cm . Hope it's a phase that passes soon .

Tam: hope you're feeeling better. Well done to your DS on sleeping though, even if he is pushing you during the day. Might is also be that he's feeling better? DS went completely hyper after he'd recovered from his nasty cough.

Meg: how is your DS's cough?

Tibs: hello! Is the beside cot still working well?

Skirmish: hope your nights improved a little

Hello to Chibi, Bagpuss and Fizzbuzz . We co-sleep (started off co-sleeping, then DS in cot, then back in ourbed a couple of months ago when he was waking all the time and I needed some sleep). He goes in his cot at the begionning of the night and I'm trying to encourage hin to stay there for longer, but it depends on how restless he is. He managed nearly 3 hours the other night without stirring but that is unusual. We out him in the middle on top of the duvet in his pjs He hates being too warm so it works for us.

Anotgher restless night fr us last night, waking lots to feed. Is there a 1 year growth spurt? DS toddling around more so obv using up lots of energy!

Hi EP. hope ds's growth spurt passes soon and you get a few decent stretches of sleep soon. Keep meaning to complete a first aid course (esp for children) but like everyhting it gets put on the back burner and doesn't happen. Think tibs did one recently.

ha ha, so busy remembering everyone that i forgot to add, dd only woke once and it wasnt til 2.15am

tam, good night for you my love and for your lie in, you deserve it. supposed to be going out to watch a reenactment in worcester today, but dp still in bed after a night out, grrrrr...think i may have to wake him

Hi EP. bedside cot still working a treat for us thanks, although i'm hoping dp and i will be able to have a bedroom to ourselves some day i did a paediatric first aid course a couple of months ago with Anubis, it was organised by the local M&Ts. the instructor was a paramedic, who also does mountain rescue and was fab, very knowledgable but aalso good fun too. we had a great handbook to take away too that covers most of the scary things that we think about. dont know if its just local to me, but they have a website www.anubis.uk.com
yey for lo's 3 hour stretch in the cot. well done that man. dd still not walking and i think shes a while off it yet, but i bet they need tons more fuel when theyre toddling about all day!

Hi EP and everyone else

We had a bad night, but it was the first without any Medised for about 5 nights so to be expected I suppose. His cough is still lingering but gradually getting better every day, seems to get worse at night though. I think I got about 3 hours' sleep and felt crap this morning but managed to go back to bed for an hour while he napped.

We seem to have dropped the third nap now, hasn't had one in a few days and seems to go longer before his lunchtime nap without going into meltdown. But if he wakes early from his lunchtime nap then things can get a bit fraught around teatime...

Fizzbuzz: My LO slept through for a glorious couple of weeks when he was about 9-12 weeks old but then it all went pear-shaped and we haven't had a night with fewer than two wakings since

Fiz, my DD is 12 months and has never slept through. Best we've ever had is 7.30 -4.30 and she's done that twice if memory serves.

We had a crappy night but it was DH's turn so I didn't have to deal with her. Equally I didn't sleep because of local teenagers reving their little scooters all flippin night. I popped into DD's room at 4 to see what was happening and her and DH were snuggled up together fast asleep looking gorgeous

DD has been very screechy and whiny today. Think she may have a bit of a cold so she may be mediseded last night if she's restless.

Nappy rash is looking a bit better. My mum said she used to use starch on us when we had nappy rash on advice of her grandparents and it cleared it up really well. I don't know what she means by starch but i googled and it seems that the Americans use cornstarch (cornflour here) for nappy rash so I've been using it today and do you know? I think it's looking better.

Meg, hope your night is better than yesterday.

Tam, seems your DS is starting to work it out. He's done so well and so have you.

Right, I'm off to make a cuppa. Anyone?

Meant to say. My DD has taken to loving sleeping on a pillow (when we settle her on the bed or bring her in with us) They can have pillows after the age of one right? Not sure I particularly like it because she likes to roll over facedown onto it but she settles soooo much better on it.

evening all

supposed to be out on the town (@7mths pg - lol) but dh must have forgotten and has gone out - blessing in disguise really, can't be arsed getting dressed and made up!

ds was fine after his exorcist impression and slept well - gave him a sneaky bottle at 10pm and he slept til just gone 6 this morning so may do it again tonight added bonus of being an angel child today - you know those days where you just look at them all day in awe (proud mummy emoticon)

fizz - we don't co-sleep so no advice there. Occasionally ds will come into our bed in the morning, as i just can't face the world at 5am! Unfortunately, I had the worlds best sleeper and it's all gone pear shaped! He slept 7-7 from 12wks (with a dreamfeed at 11pm), but from around 6mths began waking at 6am, and then its just got earlier and earlier - have tried everything!

hope everyone is having a fun-filled/relaxing/etc sat night with lots of contented little sleepers

fizz, ds has slept through maybe 2 or 3 times since birth (9 months ago). i'm hoping he may improve that ratio soon, but not looking too promising at the moment
skirmish, glad ds slept well last night.
ginger, i'll have a cuppa thanks
meg, after LO dropped the third nap, he started going to bed slightly earlier to avoid meltdown, but now seems to have evened out the bedtime again to around 7.30ish.
things have been really rough from 3am onwards recently. seriously considering not feeding at night (yeah, ok i know i'm always saying that), but i really think it could solve the issue, but i'm such a weakling, i'd cave in at the mildest protest!
ep, i'd really like to do a baby first aid course, will have to put my mind to it. thanks for saying 9 months is a hard time, because sometimes i can't put my finger on it, but a lot of things are quite frustrating. and now ds has started throwing his dinner on the floor necessitating heaps of cleaning after his dinner, which is getting super tiring to say the least.

Hello ladeez

As you can see I am up at 5am, been up since 3am with 6 month old DS. He has this past week been awake for at least 2 hours in the middle of every night in addition to waking for his feeds (BF). Now that he can roll over he just keeps rolling onto his tum and pushing up onto his hands and knees, staring at the baby monitor light etc, sometimes happily blowing razzers and trying to grab my hand, hair etc. Previous to this new behaviour I could usually BF him back to sleep in my bed no matter how often he woke, but not any more.

What are you supposed to when this happens? Get up? Put the light on? Sitting at 'puter with DS on lap, I have tried (against my instinct) to leave him to cry in his cot to get him to self settle, it does not work, and it is horrible. He seems to want to play/get up for the day and even co-sleeping does not work as he just moves around the bed and I am paranoid he will crawl off it when I fall asleep.

Last night he was screaming for about 2 hours from 2.30 - 4.30 with a few breaks, I lay in bed shushing and patting and holding his hand, he was falling asleep now and then but kept waking up enraged that I wouldn't lift him into bed with me. Of course, eventually I just lifted into bed with me as I couldn't take any more, was hysterical myself in tears, then he fell asleep in bed with me.

Argh I can't even write my brain is fogged up so badly. Had all intentions of doing what the Weissbluth book says about sudden extinction method but it just doesnt work, my baby just carries on screaming and I am not prepared to inflict it on him for however long it is supposed to take.

And DP is away on a 3 wk business trip so I am totally alone too.

Amber, that is a pain but DD is now eating almost everything in sight so thankfully we're passed the suck and chuck stage

Shoob, my DD was exactly the same and we've had MANY nights like yours. We still get them occassionally. I'm guessing teeth are the problem. Sorry I can't offer any advice but it helps to know yours isn't the only one.

WE HAD A SLEEP THROUGH!!!!!

The first ever. 7.30 -5.30 with a brief waking of mummy at 12.30 due to coughing fit. I rearrangd her and her bedding and nothing til 5.30. OK so I know it's not 7 but 5.30'll do me.

yay yay yay for ginger's dd.

we had 7.30-2 (awake for quick gulp of water)
just up now

Yay little Ninja! and glad your night was good too, Tam.

Shoobiedoo, you have my utmost sympathy -- I have been there on many nights. We had the same as DS learned to roll, I think a lot of it is developmental. Thankfully it doesn't happen very often now. I found that not letting him nap after 4pm helped, now on the rare days he has a late afternoon nap I limit it to 15 minutes, but most days he can get through on two.

Last night was so-so, awake 10.30, 1.30 (nappy leaked) which took til 2.30 to get him back to sleep, then 4.30 in with us, awake 6.30.

go little ninja . Ginger, you must be made up. Here's to it being the first of many.

morning baz

Meg glad it wasn't a shocker. those bloody leaky nappies.

Forgot to say hi to shoobidoo

yay ginger!!

Thanks - it does help to know that other people have been through the same thing.

DS has now fallen asleep, I know I should nap but I am starving, so I'm going down to get some provisions. Called my good friend who is coming round later with cake and sympathy.

Amberjee - read yr post further down about yr lump and just wanted to reassure you - I have the exact same thing and went to the breast unit for an ultrasound etc. It was not a blockage but just normal duct tissue that had formed a gnarl or lump ( I think the lovely word they used was gristle). It is still there and is completely benign, it is fairly common and needs no treatment. I am sure the ultrasound will reassure you. HTH.

thanks shooobie - i'm sure it's just gristle
hope the cake gets you through. once ds wakes up, we're going for coffeeeeeeeee

yay for Ginger!

Things are looking up here too - lo was up only 4 times between 7 and 7 last night and didn't need to come into bed with us at all.

Meg you have my sympathies, my lo did a similar thing last night and fired poo out one leg of her nappy, coating the inside of her grobag!