10wk old baby sleeping alone?

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Our DD has cracked sleeping (for now) and regularly gives us 7hour chunks of rest at night. Which is AMAZING except she sleeps so loudly that even though she's down from midnight to 7am, I'm still only getting half an hour here or there. It's unsustainable and i want to move her from our room into the nursery. I know NHS guidelines say 6 months but i don't think I can keep this up for long. She sleeps on her back and has no SIDS risk factors, we have monitors and the nursery is next door to our room and nice and cool, i really want to start putting her down in there... any advice?

If not minimising SIDS is a risk you are happy to take then what is the point of even asking? When you, your husband and sister were all young, the SIDS rate was far higher and has dropped thanks to the guidelines you are now waving away as arse-covering.

You seem sure of what you want to do so it isn’t relevant what any of us think.

I'm inclined to think that this staunch adherence to 6 months is likely NHS arse-covering

Get on with it then I suppose OP? Your baby is lucky to have you

If your husband breathes so loudly how do you sleep through that?

I'm just going with my gut.

So why post?

The advice to keep a sleeping baby in the same room as you for the first 6 months has been around for about a decade OP.

These threads always amuse me - everyone piling in saying 'I wouldn't'. And yet co-sleeping (FAR greater risk statistically) is gushed about on Mumsnet right left and centre!

The 6 months advice is there for a reason. The risk of SIDS may be tiny, but personally I still wouldn’t want to take that risk! 10 weeks old is so, so young. DS was a very noisy sleeper, snuffling, wriggling and banging his legs down on the mattress constantly so I wore earplugs. I could still hear him but obviously the sound was quieter and found I could sleep better.

@Aquilla I think that's because there's 'co-sleeping' and actually co-sleeping. Obviously if you just accidentally co-sleep it's really dangerous, especially on a sofa but I think if you make plenty of room for baby, firm mattress and nothing that could obstruct the airways it's safe and practiced in many countries. People are willing to take different risks and advice is always changing anyway.

The main reason I chose to take as my rule was that as baby shouldn't sleep on their front, until she can roll on her own then she will sleep in our room.

If she did some how get onto her front and couldn't roll back, and was in her own, risk of sids is increased again.

This coincides with 6 months age as usually Babis can roll by then, after which any position they chose is safe.

Also, the noise won't last, at the moment it will be because the windpipe is still developing so it causes noisy sleeping.

And do note the current risk of sids is so low exactly because people followed the guidelines. Please be careful and don't become a statistic for the sake of better sleep. It's part of the job for now. 💐

Ds went I. His cot in his own room at 9 weeks because he outgrew the Moses basket. We didn’t have space for a cot in our room unless we took our bed apart.

Similarly with dd she was in “her” room from 2 weeks although we did have a bed in there (moved house since ds was born) so either me or dh slept in with her.

Same here em. Although the upside of a tiny house meant that the nursery was just a few steps away from my bed and I could still hear them snuffling without a monitor.
TBH I don't understand how babies can hear parents breathing. Breathing is pretty much silent, unless you're a snorer. A healthy adult doesn't make any noise sleeping.

I'm just going with my gut.

Selfish gut that must be.

Why do people have children expecting to sleep as well pre children?

Just wondering....Those of you saying you would never leave them to sleep alone, When you put them to bed at (for instance) 7p.m, Do you go to bed then or go at your normal bedtime? Or do you keep them with you in the living room in a moses basket or swing chair?

The advice changes literally every six months and is often contradictory, so it's very hard to know what to follow. I'm just going with my gut.

The sleep guidelines look pretty identical to when my eldest arrived more than 8 years ago.

The six month rule was in place 14 year old with my eldest. Adding dummies was a bit later.

Co-sleeping does not raise the risk of sids. If you're going down that route, so does formula feeding. The countries with the lowest rates of sids are where breastfeeding and co-sleeping are the norm. People need to stop going on about it being so dangerous when it's not. What IS dangerous is a mother or father terrified to co-sleep so don't set up a safe sleep space, then falling asleep accidentally on a sofa or big fluffy bed with lots of pillows/thick duvet. That does lead to fatalities. Safe co-sleeping is fine.

Anyway, it's all about what risks you are prepared to take op. I know lots of people who put their babies in their own rooms much younger than 6 months and they've been fine. Equally, you've seen the statistics. You decide.

Please someone come up with something scientific to support the idea that babies regulate their breathing by the closeness to the parents. My understanding of the theory of keeping babies in the room was that parents may be more vigilant about health changes because they are accustomed to all the "normal " noises. I do think there is a degree of scaremongering going on. There is still much we dont know about SIDS. We do know that smoking, drinking, drug use and co sleeping increase the risk

Those of you saying you would never leave them to sleep alone, When you put them to bed at (for instance) 7p.m, Do you go to bed then or go at your normal bedtime?

We kept her downstairs with us till we went to bed until she was about 6 months old, though she’s now nearly 10 months and still in our room. She was either on one of us or in her baby box on the floor. Fed on demand so I was close by if she woke but she rarely ever did. At the time we didn’t think about it much, just seemed natural to keep her close. Now she’s older she goes to bed around 7, we have a video monitor with us downstairs and I come up to feed or settle her before we go to bed and once we’re in bed she’s right by my side if she wakes.

Those of you saying you would never leave them to sleep alone, When you put them to bed at (for instance) 7p.m, Do you go to bed then or go at your normal bedtime? Or do you keep them with you in the living room in a moses basket or swing chair?

DD slept midnight till noon until she started playgroup at 2.5 and it moved to about 10:30pm. Made it easy for her to be wherever I was. (We’re all night owls here, so never attempted anything like a 7pm bedtime).

@ fenellamaxwell
Your chart shows the reduction not the cause. In my opinion the biggest single change is the reduction of passive smoking. We have made many changes so it is tricky to prove which are the most influential. Naturally we all want to reduce the risk as much as possible so do all of them

@NeedAnExpert
This is what I do. I'm so happy to hear someone else does this.
I don't enforce a routine and I'm an owl. Dc has followed me naturally.
Constantly get comments that I should put them to sleep at 7pm to get some alone time? Which would mean waking at 7am.

My understanding of the theory of keeping babies in the room was that parents may be more vigilant about health changes because they are accustomed to all the "normal " noises. I do think there is a degree of scaremongering going on. There is still much we dont know about SIDS. We do know that smoking, drinking, drug use and co sleeping increase the risk.

We also know that sleeping in a room alone increases the risk, but there is no overwhelming evidence to support any hypothesis as to why.

The best evidence I’ve seen relates to sleep consolidation studies - babies sleeping alone tend to sleep more deeply and for longer stretches, which is an associated risk for SIDS.

But as ever correlation and causation are not the same.

Did you not realise you miss out on sleep when you have a child?? That's the way it is?
Your baby wasn't asked to be born, to then be put into a room at 10 weeks old on her own because it's inconvenient for you, SIDS is a risk, despite her weight or "smoke free home" as another posted they had to do cpr on their baby and wouldn't of known unless he was right next to her, that'd be enough for me to abandon this ridiculous thought, but OP of course your silent night is more important than keeping your 10 WEEK old baby next to you at night for safety. don't see why you ask people to then just say your going to basically do it anyway