SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 5....... God have mercy!

[Tamdin]

Can't believe we're onto another new thread already!

we need some posty posts on the blog whoever has time. otherwise i'm going to end up talking to myself!

it is such a GLORIOUS sunny day today. i took LO for a little swim. it was fab, then we sat in the park and he felt the grass with fascination (so cute emoticon)

now he's having a nap and I must clean the kitchen before the dinner onslaught!

Amber, will do. Sorry I've been really slack recently

Off-topic but i thought I'd share... my mum has been clearing out my nan's flat as she's gone into residential care, and brought me a copy of Woman's Weekly from 1954 that she found in a cupboard. It's full of gems like this (from the problem page...)

[to a 21-year-old reader who's worried as she doesn't have a boyfriend]

"You really are very young, and I think you are forgetting that love and marriage do not automatically come to every girl at a certain age. It all depends on when the right man enters your life, and many girls marry happily when they are twenty-five or even more!"

It also has instructions for how to make a quilted bed cover that's "gay with cornflowers"... and a houndstooth jacket in "n*** brown"

hilarious, gotta love 1954. i wonder what they'd say that i had a kid without being married first???

Evenin' all.

Tam - hope your day perked up, and the self-doubt lifted. You know you are doing what's best for your wee man.

EP - LOL at your houdini-like DS.

Ginger - I have had similar thoughts to you about the reliability of CC. If I had a cast-iron guarantee that it would work, I think I might be able to do it. But like you, I'm unconvinced that it's a miracle cure.

I did read in one of the lovely baby books (Christopher Green one I think) that CC has about 80% success rate, but the ones it tends not to work for are the ones that have been crap sleepers from birth, as opposed to those who briefly develop bad habits at a later stage. My dd is definitely in the former category!

Meg - ROLF at gay conflower duvet. Hope your nan is settling in ok.

Am slightly sunburnt after picnic in Lincoln's Inn Fields . Luckily I was much more sensible re DD - the parasol seems to have protected her ok. Hope everyone gets a lovely sleepy night, and that the weekend stays sunny for you all .

It's Bags, BTW.
I saw that another MNer has a very similar name to me, and figured she was probably here first. I gather it's the received etiquette to change !

hi
mossies
are gone
ds is peaceful for a while is in to wandering in night to tell everyone he loves them.
dh not snoring yet and dd returns on sun
did anyone read the baby wisperer book
i was wondering when you really now someones character
bye for now

Cupcake I read the BW book but chucked it out... couldn't stand the faux cosy Yorkshire lass bollocks and disagreed with at least half of what she said anyway!

Also, evening Bags-that-was

night everyone!

night

Morning. Hope everyone is still tucked in bed

I had a right huff last night as LO woke at 10 and would not go back to sleep, was rolling and shuffling round the cot instead. I got quite as meant I had to go to bed early -- managed to keep calm in front of DS, but DH got treated to a steady stream of expletives as I was crossly going to bed

Just feels like this has been going on forever with no end in sight

poor meg, they really know how to test us these LOs.
mine made me angry last night as he won't eat lying down. he makes me sit up in a chair in the blardy middle of the night to feed. what the hell difference does it make to him!?

morning all.
Sdd not totally lifted yet but feel better today than I did yesterday. I realised I was being slightly melodramatic when a friend came over yesterday and we talked about her life atm.

-Her ds is 6 weeks old
-The dad is 25 (she's 32) and is too immature to deal with it
-She was living in london but due to being pregnant moved back home and is living with parents
-Has no job (had previously been very successful in london)
-Had to stop bf as got mastitis in both breats and didn't have any support so gave up and is now feeling very guilty
-her dad is a reformed alcoholic and has started drinking again

And she had a big smile on her face all day and asked how i was and listened!
She's such a strong women it's untrue.

Same old same old here. in bed with us. unsettled around 12 for an hour or 2 as wants milk but is told no. had bottle at 3.45, up at 8 for day

x posted amber and meg. Meg i also had to go to bed at 10 last night as ds was unsettled and i figured it was easier. I had had about 3 glasses of wine and a gin and tonic by then though so prob best!

amber for your night feed. it must wake you up fully which is the killer

Tam that puts it into perspective a bit

I am so lucky to have brilliant DH, and supportive family, and not to have to rush back to work... and DS is doing so brilliantly in every way apart from sleeping!

Amber poor you. I just couldn't face sitting up to feed LO at 10 last night, then trying to get him resettled in the cot, knowing he would most likely be awake again half an hour later -- hence the flounce off to bed!

i know meg i also thought 'well ds is still in bed with us but that's about all i have to complain about' not the worst situation in the world now is it!

hope everyone has a good weekend
i always seem to do more of the boring stuff at the weekend

Hi everyone,

Tam - glad to hear the self-doubt cloud is lifting a little. Your friend's story certainly made me count my many blessings as well.

Meg - well done you for keeping calm in front of DS. That's quite a feat when the cheeky rascals are really testing your patience.

Amber - they're a funny bunch with there contrary ways, aren't they. Hope DS is back on lying down feeds soon.

Cupcake - know what you mean about boring stuff! If DH is home at the weekend I feel compelled to do a bit a housework while he has DD. Luckily he's working this weekend so I have free rein to do mummy stuff.

Good night here. LO slept 7-12.15 . Gave her the dummy while I went to warm her bottle at 12.15. Had a little lie down on sofa whilst waiting for bottle. Fell asleep . When I woke 30mins later DD was back asleep, and stayed that way until 3.30! No end of fun and games from 3.30, but that's 2 decent stretches last night.

Hope you're all enjoying the sun x

tam, you are doing such a good job - you should be so proud of being such an excellent mummy!

i think the days of the lying down feed are well and truly over. he's been like that for a few months now. every now and again i try to do it lying down, but he puts me in my place.

am making a pathetic attempt and baby proofing this afternoon until LO wakes up and we will go for a picnic

thanks amber

baby proofing is a pita. we had to lose all books on the bottom 2 shelves of all bookcases (has a thing about paper ) and put catches on all the kitchen cupboards. The one thing we never had to do was stairgates because we live on a top floor apartment but there are 3 flights of stairs up to it and no lift so taught ds from very early age how to go up and down stairs safely. Glad we did as when we move have no intention of putting any on either.

enjoy your picnic. it's humid here today but very overcast.
we're out tonight for dinner with friends. Mil coming to babysit so better go tidy up!

i'm heading out tonight, dh is looking after LO - it's my first time, wish me luck. hoping LO falls asleep soon. he's just talking to himself.

Hi Y'all,

finally got baby off to sleep after an evening of hilarity. We have taken to playing the tickle chase game to wear her out.. consisting of me chasing her and dh around the house going 'Im coming to tickle you!' and her shrieking. Given up on gentle methods of lulling her to dreamland. She prefers burning out then crashing. So far she has been asleep for a whole hour and not awoken after the customary 45 mins!

Cupcake - Yup! Ive read BW, NCSS, GF, Dr S, and practically everything else going. I took offense at the way BW labels anything instinctive as 'accidental parenting' - ie everything that I found myself doing including nursing my baby to sleep, walking around with her most of the first 6 months in a sling, co-sleeping etc etc...Now and then I do re-read bits of it and wonder if I had instituted the 'Easy routine' at 3 months, or 4 months, or 6 months - if I would have that elusive child that sleeps through the night? But that is a kind of self torture - cos I just did the best at the time!

Meg - I have a similar kind of huff at DH every other night. I have decided that he really needs to learn to put LO to sleep - Im sure that will improve my karma and our relationship.

Amber - have a great night out..am green with envy as one of my bf's has just phoned from a pub. Oh to have a Saturday night out again!

Barry - I live in hope that my LO will fall asleep on her own. When I went up just now to check on her I found her on all fours rocking backwards and forwards trying to find first gear - she's just started crawling in the last week. I think the days of putting her to sleep on our bed will be over shortly - I live in fear of her going over the edge like a lemming.

Wishing you all great nights - have to go LO calls!

Morning all.

MamaHtFoot, I hope your LO wasn't too much trouble last night!

Hope everyone enjoyed the sun yesterday and Amber hope you had a good night out.

Well... guess what... we had a good night (finally!). Asleep at 8 after 40 mins of faffing, then woke 11.30 (fed), 2,30 (in with me), 6 (fed) then 7,30 for the day. This for us is a very good night!

Morning all.

MamaHtFoot, I hope your LO wasn't too much trouble last night!

Hope everyone enjoyed the sun yesterday and Amber hope you had a good night out.

Well... guess what... we had a good night (finally!). Asleep at 8 after 40 mins of faffing, then woke 11.30 (fed), 2,30 (in with me), 6 (fed) then 7,30 for the day. This for us is a very good night!