Sleep is for the Weak! we got too big?!!??!?!!??

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can you believe that?! we got too big?
we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

ginger, thanks. i don't know which way is up withthe feeding. he's fed only twice today and not very long feeds at that, so of course i worry that he's not getting enough. but surely he'd tell me, or just get down to it and eat if he was hungry. i do offer it, but mostly get turned down. sigh. i'm going to try and chill out of the feeding thing and let him really guide the way, without my forcing or worrying and see what happens for a week ...

its baby swimming, and LO does enjoy it so much, and i love seeing him enjoy it - so i dredge up the energy from somewhere. no way i'd have to energy to do laps or anything

amber by the look of your pics that gorgeous little boy is doing just fine on what he's getting. he looks fit and healthy to me and soooooo cute

yeah, he's doing fine in the weight department, and happy and growing etc. etc. i'm just tired of this constant battle and the silly things i have to do to get him to eat. so i'm going to ease up on the silly things and let him eat if he wants, not if he doesn't and just see what happens.

and i wonder how this all plays into the weaning thing. i've been giving him some finger food during the last week (he's 2 weeks shy of 6 months) and he likes to suck it, lick it, he might of even eaten a bit of mango. i'd really rather not spoon feed if i don't have to. i just hope that works okay with his love-hate relationship with breast milk.

amber ds was the same. he didn't really get the hang of eating until about 9/10 months. even now he has hungry days and days when he eats very little. I didn't know about BLW at the time but as ds wouldn't have a spoon near him (unless it contained pear)it's what we did (by total accident).I bought one of those mesh bag things for him at first as was paranoid about choking.
The main thing i think is to try to go withthe flow (some days i still find that tough) because the last thing you want is food/meal times to become a battle ground. He'll eat when he's hungry and your BM is obviously so nutritious he's doing well

what is the mesh bag thing you mention? i'm just trying to get over my choking paranoia. gill rapley says they're no more likely to choke on finger food than being spoon fed (apparently). hope its true. sounds like a lot of parents have done BLW by accident.

long and short of it is that i should just stop obsessing shouldn't i!

tam, did ds go for afternoon nap? i know that feeling of just drifting off to sleep and being woken up. its so frustrating, and probably worse than not going to sleep at all. that's why i don't bother to lie down most times and just go on MN! if LO would reliably go for more than an hour, i think i would like down more often, but 45 mins is just not enough to get to sleep and have a decent rest.

amber it was from jojomamanbebe website and is called the baby safe feeder £13 I think (?)we found it really useful and the handle is prefect for them to hold. well designed imo. If you order through mn you'll get you10% and free del too. i keep forgetting. just ordered a white satin edge blanket from white co (ds has 2 and they're his thing along with dummy for bed)and forgot that mn have discount with them, doh!

oh and yes he's been alseep since 3.15. suppose i should go wake him up but enjoying the peace
also i never sleep when he does anymore as usually feel ok plus would rather the time to do 'stuff' but today i did and look what happened. have learnt my lesson

mmm, enjoy the peace!

evening all
tapster - i'm toying with the idea of cutting back on the amount of bfs i give, but am torn between wanting to assert a bit of independence and not wanting to let go i know its an emotional issue, and being a libran too, i swing from one camp to the other also, how do you go about it when lo wont take a bottle? tried her last night and my mum tried her today when i was at work, but she takes a miniscule amount and doesnt suck at the teat, rather nibbles at it
hope everyone has had good days

Re bfing, still not happy about the idea of giving up at night - if I don't feed him he screams! 2 good naps here today and he went down (relatively) painlessly tonight

Hope the run of bad nights is close to ending for us all

Evening all.

Our naps were a bit skewiff this afternoon - he fell asleep on the way to NCT group but woke up 5 mins after we got there 'cause it was so noisy. Then played catch-up by falling asleep on me for an hour after a feed at 4.

Anyway he has gone down fine 10 mins ago, conked out on the boob and would not be stirred so went into cot asleep, against "the rules" I know but whatever.

Can I ask how other people decide when to feed during the night? Last night LO woke every two hours or so, I can't believe he was hungry for all of them, but I tend to feed just in case, unless he's only fed like an hour ago in which case it's the dummy. (I do try shh/pat first but this normally just gets him more awake!)

Fingers crossed for a better night for all of us - we deserve it.

One child (DS of course) in bed and asleep.

One child not asleep . DD is getting worse at going to cot and then getting worse in the night as well .

I am worn out. I generally work 8-4 (work three days a week as an accountant)but today was in the office at 7. As welive in Bedfordshi8re anbd the office is in London, I was up at 5:15 this morning. And having a meeting when I got in.

DH is at a work thing. No idea when he will be back (although won;t be too late). I just want to go to sleep.

Sorry abut moaning and poor typing. Will try and be more optimistic when I next post.

Idris: no sleep and early starts are a killer . I enjoy it when I am at work, but could really do with that extra hour or so in bed (even if DS is awake and sticking his fingers into my eyes)

oh dear idris that sounds hard
will your dd go to sleep with you if you took her into your bed?
do you think she's ready for a bed of her own (a double!) that you or dh could sleep in with her if needed until she gets the hang of staying in it by herself!
Just ideas. i am obviously no expert based on the evidence!!
btw ds in bed asleep even though he had an afternoon nap (got up at 4.30pm) which he never has. Result! x

tamdin - sounds good after the afternoon nap. mine snuck in an extra nap too today.

oh dear idris, that sounds really tough. i hope you can get to bed soon.

idris, heres hoping for a good night for you.
EP - are you bfing through the day? i know several people who have cut down to 1 feed in the a.m and 1 in the evening upon returning to work.
dd still excl bf alongside solids. today, because i was out from 9.30 to 3.30, she managed with solids at lunch time and a few sips of milk and water, but nothing much liquid wise. she greeted me with a huge smile, and was immediately rooting around for a feed. understandable i know, but i'd feel happier if i knew that she would take larger quantities esp during the hot weather.

oh, and meg, i generally feed dd whenever whe wakes after i've gone to bed, its usually in a tired haze, and as i bring her in with us, its generally easier i do go through periods when i try to hold her out by just cuddling, but generally, i go for the easier and quieter version! last night she fed 3 times

vey quick post. am trying to get out early today. Last nigh nightmare. feels like he was wide awake for hours. tried putting in his cot. screaming fit. gave up. went back to sleep about 4.30 up at 6 for the day
'it's just a phase' 'it's just a phase'

have a good day all

Morning... hope I'm first in 'cause everyone else is having a lie-in

So-so night for us, 'only' fed 3 times (11ish, 2ish and 5ish) but woke maybe 4 more times (settled with dummy in sleepy haze so didn't feel too difficult, at least). In with us at 6.20 but up for the day at 6.40 (urgh).

Tibsy: I express at work, bu DS still doesn't take that mich during the day (think he's recerse cycling which makes it easier re expressing but more feeds at night!). I feed early in the morning (about 6ish), when I gert back from work (again 6ish and before bed, then when he wakes at night. If I'm at home he'll have 2 or 3 more feeds during the day (mod am, mid pm and sometimes lunchtime), if not he'll wither have a couple of small bottles from DH or stick to water and juice.

Anyway, got him weighted yesterday and he's sticking to his 91st percentile - I am the surgery poster girl for steady weight gain . I'm relieved that no-one's hassling me cos he's big

Oops x-posted Tamdin... for your crap night. Hope you have a nice relaxing day...

Good morning .

Got to work for 8 instead of 7 today so I am in a better mood .

Alice went to sleep on me a bit after I posted last night and I thne transferred her to cot . She woke up once in the night and DH brought her into our bed (which is often how our nights end up). But even though she was asleep on my arm, I still managed all right sleep.

I think that as DS has almost always been a good sleeper (apart from the first 8 weeks of his life when he slept on my chest) I had been rather too lucky. We never had to do any sort of sleep training with him - he has 3 stories at night and then goes to sleep. Generally stays asleep until morning, sometimes comes into our bed.

DD on the other hand was lovely as a newborn (in terms of sleep - obviously lovely generally as well ) in that she woke, was fed and went back to sleep. In some ways I don't feel she's all that much further on, which after 21 months is rather frustrating.

I think I need a plan. Possible thoughts are:

(1) just keep things the way they are
(2) do CC
(3) get DS a bigger bed and DD has his bed
(4) move DD into DS's room
(5) buy a superking-size bed

At the moment when I am doing bedtime on my own, I feel it's unfair on DS - last night DD was wailing all through his stories and he's only 3.5. Just because he's "good" at bedtime doesn't mean he should have to put up with a small sister messing around. But I get frustrated too - by the end of the day I want them to go to bed so I can have a bit of "me" time (and even talk to DH if he's home in some reasonable time).

Anyway, back to a bit of work I think .

Ooh lots of posts while I was doing mine.

Sorry for bad nights .

DD woke up as I got up at about 6:20 and demanded to do a wee (she is potty trained and has been for about 2 months. Decided that seeing as DS is, that she would be too. Still wears pull-ups at night but also will sometimnes wake in the night needing to do a wee). Poor DH was hoping for a bit more sleep I think .

oh and don't ask about our night . Bloody awful. Eventually took DS into bed with us at 4 and he slept (a bit, with feeds) till 8 so that took the edge of things. Have decided on teeth plus growth spurt plus my milk slowing down atm cos my period is due

ALL THINGS WILL PASS