The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

[Jellybean2017]

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

Sakura same here. We are very much in the regression I think! I'd forgotten how awful it can be. I'm so so tired. Plus my left boob is aching and lumpy as I have a blocked milk duct. It's agony when DS latches on. Not feeling great in myself either, worried it might become mastitis. Which is why I really need sleep! Argh..

So it's 2:30 am and since coming to bed at 9pm with DS but waiting for DH to get home before sleeping I've had 1hr30 sleep

As I predicted DS as of 11pm has caught my cold we only both got rid of our colds 3weeks ago

So now on the 3rd sort've wake up anyone else's LO slam and thrash legs about whilst still with eyes shut?! Goodness me!!!

He's had 2 bottles barely touched the first but finished the 2nd just after 1am I have 2washed and sterilised ones left upstairs to last until 6am for when he's usually get me up ready for the day wide eyed. I have more in the kitchen too but never used more than 4 throughout night and I don't think a bottle is always what he wants .. sorry to go off piste but quick poll..

I chatting to a mum friend of mine other day saying how 4months in you would think feeding every 2hrs round the clock especially at night would've calmed down I added how he doesn't finish all the bottles during the night, to which she claimed that was just snacking and then therefore shouldn't allow it and try and comfort him back to sleep a different way.

Now I don't know if that's opinion talking or best practice as I still feel very new to all this?!?!

Anyway tried stroking face gently singing lullaby didn't work and tbf his eyes remain closed I burped him but cane out other end lol then breastfed him for 5mins (he is 90% formula bottle fed but I still make some milk as he takes comfort in me as won't take a dummy) not lightly sleeping in arms as soon as I put him down within 5mind snorting/choking with the new cold

I can't hold him all night I'm knackered from being ill too and sent DH to other room to sleep as he has to get up for work at 6am

Argh when will it get better?!?!

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs

@Sakura03

Morning you two sorry to see you are both awake too!!!

Ouch sore lumpy boobs I used to get that every other day when EBF you tried the lanisoh breast pads that you can use warm or cold?!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01JRLTP9E/ref=mpssa114aa_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1521428257&sr=8-4&keywords=lanisoh+breast+pads&dpPl=1&dpID=51KvzzblNzL&ref=plSrch

I've heard if the whole 4 month sleep regression but I think because had such a struggle in the beginning with sleep that as it JUST started to get better it's gone to sh*t again why does it happen?!

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I don't know when it gets better I'm afraid, every baby is different. My DS is 10 months old (8 months corrected which is the developmental age we have to go by) and we are up for the third time since 10.30. My DD slept through the night from 4 months old and has always been a brilliant sleeper. This is a shock to the system

@Worlds0kayestmum Mine is 7 months and we are up for the 3rd time too. When does it end? He gets so noisy and angry when he wakes but doesn't even open his eyes, just gets raaaaage that the boob isn't there.

@NinaMarieP your version of sleep training sounds really good. Might have to follow your lead.

Mine loves to thump the mattress and then flip onto his stomach and play and then squawk indignantly that I'm not there to immediately offer him boob. He's just done the biggest, stinkiest man poo and is hugely proud of himself. He's currently celebrating by blowing raspberries on my breast. We won't be back in bed until at least 4am...

Hi, awake for the 4th time here, so fed up of co sleeping I could scream! I want my bed back and need to sleep deeper than I am, with him in the bed I always feel I have to be kind of alert and it's just not proper sleep.

I've also had to change his whole outfit twice already because if I fall asleep feeding and don't roll him into his back when he is done, he stays on his side and it leaks everywhere.

So Tangry already.

Had a shit day yesterday as LAH (lazy arseholes husband) was "ill" and si even though he was home I may as well had been alone as he didn't help at all, then we had a big argument about his messiness and how in fed up of cleaning all the time.
Cleaning up after two kids is enough without his dirty underwear being half way down the stairs or the whole sock drawer rifled through and socks all over the floor. He just doesn't get it, he says we'll leave it for me to do and not to clean up after him but it would seriously be there for weeks if I did that!

Anyway, ds2 doing my head in tonight, it's like a grumpy little womble clawing and me all night. Fed up, rant over. Sigh.

DS did 5 hours woo but has celebrated by feeding for 20mins, coughing and then throwing it all up! It was everywhere. I've now spent over an hour trying to get him back to sleep, he's gone off but only very lightly.

I'm very conscious of the time now as he's started waking up at 6am. I miss the times when he was younger and would sleep until 9/10.

Ugh poor you, it's the little things that give the rage. My OH and DSS spent the day adding to an overflowing bin, didn't occur to either of them to empty it

With the co sleeping, could you maybe get a next to me cot,? So you can still have him close and feed in bed but have the space to sleep more comfortably?

Anyone around? 😴
My 10 month old white previously slept like a dream has just started to decided he doesn't want to go back to sleep if he wakes during the night anymore 😫 been up since 2.15am

Still awake. DD been wailing since 3am. DH tried to settle her once but then went back to bed. Now DS is awake but refusing to feed. But clearly distressed. So. Incredibly. Tangry.

Sorry to all also having bad nights! In answer to when does it get better...er well it took DD two years to sleep through, and we still get a night at least once a week where she's unsettled. It could be a lot worse I guess...but it doesn't feel like that right now!

Got a busy day ahead of playdates and I just want to cry.

I make no promises that it will work @justanotheruser18 but good luck!!

Currently sat in the lounge in floods of tears because my OH wouldn't even get up 20 minutes before his alarm to let me get some rest. He has to WORK and I get to laze around all day (on 4 hours broken sleep). I'm just so hurt that he's not prepared to help the person he claims to love when im struggling so much

I am so shattered. I can't stand co sleeping now. When she wakes she pinches and scratches me and it's awful. I've been in with her since 3am.

I just want her to sleep through!!! Agghhhfjciejehdjdncudjdjd so so so tangry

Ergh sorry about some the AHs out there :( I couldn't imagine doing this practically alone. I have no words at someone who won't even take 20 minutes out of their day to parent their child!

@FrozenMargarita17 don't be pressured to do anything. But there are other sleep training methods besides crying it out, gentler ones that don't involve leaving them to cry. They aren't for everyone or every baby but you can always research them and decide yourself. Show your dh the research both negative and positive so he understands the harm cio can have. Other methods take longer than cio but that's because they aren't as harsh.
Also I'd say as long as someone she loves s is there comforting her then
don't feel it has to be you RE the wanting you when you enter the room. Get dh to take a long shift of settling her so you know she's safe and loved but you get a break! As long as she's being held and comforted it's ok that they cry sometimes, I had to learn this after almost breaking.

Ds was waking every few hours from midnight again 😔 wish it didn't take so long for me to get back to sleep! Dh is away til Friday so it's gonna be a long week!

Why can't I just have a baby who isn't so difficult 😩 honestly I'm so tired and sad. I don't want to leave her to cry. My SIL is even saying she will come and stay over and do it when she's 10 months.

What do I do? I feel like I'm being ganged up on and I'm so tired I can't argue. I also don't want to cause any upset either.

Tangry here. DS is 7.5 months. Is there another sleep regression?! He is so unsettled. No teeth yet, could be that... Had to co sleep from 2am and he was awake for about two hours. DH went to the spare room, I was jealous. DS also scratches me and has an annoying habit of grabbing my face/nose. It's going to be a long day. He is having his first nap now (on me, naturally) but he fought that too. Need

@Jellybean2017 dd does that. Punching, slapping, pinching, scratching and yanking on my piercings. It's awful.

Frozenmargarita at the end of the day you have to pick something that works for you as the main care giver so don't worry about causing upset to anyone else. If you don't want to leave her to cry then don't. If you are the one who spends the majority of time settling her you need to find a method you are happy with. We did a little pupd, also introduced a comforter at 6 months and doing Pantley pull off to stop feeding to sleep but I don't leave DS to cry. Partly because I don't want him to be upset and partly selfishly as I can't stand to hear it.

jellybean there is an 8-10 month regression

@tealandteal maybe that's what's happening to dd. She's 8 months. :(

@Jellybean2017 sadly there's an 8 month sleep regression, I'm heading into it as well.

I'm trying to get DS down for a nap before group but he is fighting it even though he's tired

Don't feel pressured into anything! Only do what you are comfortable with, it's no one else's business and it's ok to say no even if it seems rude. Everything is just a phase so try and be as in the here and now as possible (at least that's what I have to keep telling myself!)

My SIL is going to have her when I go back to work so I'm worried she's doing it for other reasons. I don't want to leave her to cry. :(

frozen if you don't want to leave dd to cry then you don't have to. People might tell you what they think you should do but don't let them pressure you into something you don't feel is best for you or dd. I don't know anything about sleep training but pps have mentioned that it can be done without leaving them to cry, so perhaps look at those instead. As for sil looking after dd I'd tell her what you are and aren't comfortable with.

Didn't realise that there's another sleep regression at 8months...that's when I'm going back to work. A friend of mine used to nap in her car at lunchtime because her dd was a bad sleeper, perhaps I'll have to do that too!