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The great non-sleepers... continued (again 😴)

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Jellybean2017 · 21/02/2018 01:32

New thread for night (and daytime!) chatter for those awake more than they'd like with a non sleeping baby/child 😊

My DS is six months. First baby likely to be only baby if I don't start getting more sleep! He is a nap and sleep fighter but incredibly cute so I choose to forgive him 😂

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UtterlyConfused111 · 03/03/2018 19:59

Ok. I have recreated all conditions from yesterday except the calpol.
No poo yet. And not a super good feed at bedtime...
But we will see.

MummyCuddlesSolveEverything · 03/03/2018 20:39

carscatsandmorecats I stupidly thought ds would be fine with a bottle because we used a bottle to top up with expressed milk after feeds for the first couple of weeks (we were struggling with feeding and weight gain). he'd been ok with a bottle then so I assumed he would be now, oops.
Hope your night's getting better!

utterly that's amazing, I'd definitely do everything the same and hope it works again!

Hoping that ds will do a couple of longer stretches tonight, I'd be happy with 2 or 3 hours.
My spelling and grammar is terrible at the moment, my sleep deprived brain can't cope with that. I won't notice any mistakes anyone else makes...I don't even notice my own.

Meepmoop · 03/03/2018 21:11

Wake up 1, not looking good..

Haypanky · 03/03/2018 21:11

Just sharing this in case it helps anyone. Cracked today and have just had a 15 min free intro chat with a sleep consultant. Then a blummin good chat with husband about the boy and his sleep or lack thereof. We've come to the conclusion the boy may have run up quite a sleep debt and that we need to have a week catching up on his sleep, by any means necessary, before we try any further tweaking of schedules, sleep training or night weaning. So that means really early to bed, night wakings whatever works to get him back to sleep, sleeping on me off necessary, during the day, short wake times, naps by any means necessary, no waking him from naps. I'll be offloading the 3.5yr old girl child this week to prioritise the boys sleep. Then we'll see where we're at. Reading up on baby sleep debts, it makes a lot of sense, especially after a recent illness. Fingers crossed... 😱

seven201 · 03/03/2018 21:13

Sleep deprivation is so so crap!

My dd is 21 months and wakes up on average once a night and wants to be up for anywhere between 1.5-3hrs and then you're not allowed to leave the room as SHE KNOWS! Sometimes she insists you stay and pat her bottom for an hour. Sometimes patting her bottom is not allowed. Aghhhhh. It's the nights when she does it twice that kills us. We've tried leaving her to cry it out but she cries then goes to screaming then pukes. She's now started trying to make herself puke earlier by coughing. I have to force wake her every morning for nursery and then drive to nursery/work with the window open to keep me awake!

Thing is she used to be woken up by it as she has bad silent reflux (on meds, hasn't grown out of it, under paediatrician) but now we're not sure if it's that (she no longer writhes around screaming when she wakes) or just being a sleep refuser now. She definitely can sleep through as she used to do about 50-50 and even now about once a fortnight she does sleep through.

Aghhhhhhh. This has been cathartic.

Thanks to everyone with a crap sleeper

tealandteal · 03/03/2018 21:27

Wake up number 1, DS cried as I was walking to the loo so currently feeding him and desperately crossing legs Blush should have gone before I came up! Fingers crossed it's a good night for everyone. (Although atm I class 2/3 wakeups as a good night)

lizzlebizzle33 · 03/03/2018 21:31

Hoping for a better night for you all, and I hope the DH's have pulled their weight today. Mine has won brownie points by bringing me a double decker Easter egg 😍 .... He's still sleeping in the sofa though, just can't stand his snoring while ds2 is sleeping so badly.

I think I need to bring his bedtime earlier as he keeps getting Tangry around 7 and if I feed him he has a little boob nap then wakes up like he's ready for a new day!

I've been trying the EASY method today, (eat,activity,sleep,you) it worked quite well for a first try, I didn't feed him to sleep for his naps but I did have to stay with him so didn't really get any 'me' time. I'll keep trying tomorrow.

Ds1s eyes are awful so I think he's going to be up a bit in the night again poor thing. It always seems to be something at the moment.

Well I'm in bed now watching friends and eating chocolate so this is my moment!
Good luck tonight everyone, behave babies!!

UtterlyConfused111 · 03/03/2018 22:53

Nopes
Already up twice before the dream feed at 1030 and left around half her bottle....
Sigh
Hope I can get at least two hours tonight

FrozenMargarita17 · 03/03/2018 22:59

Not my Dh I'm afraid. He had a nice long afternoon nap. And I had to wake him up this morning.

Drives me crazy.

Meepmoop · 04/03/2018 02:29

I'm on feed two but wake up six. At least there's sleep happening to be woken up from

lizzlebizzle33 · 04/03/2018 03:00

I'm glad they your at least getting some sleep @Meepmoop, is DH there to deal with wake ups at lest do you only have to do the feeds?

On feed 2 here as well, wake up 3 I think. He wouldn't re settle after feed 1 so he came in with me again, and we've just woken in a big puddle of wee, great! Had to feed him in in before I could change him or he was gonna scream the place down, he told me.
Even soaked his sleeping bag so there's no chance of me getting him back in his own bed now, clever little shit monkey.
So now trying to settle him again after changing him and the bed, ahhhh. I can feel the tanger creeping in already .

lizzlebizzle33 · 04/03/2018 03:01

*that you're ( I too know how to spell but my brain is mush)

cheshiremama89 · 04/03/2018 03:33

Up again for change, feed and wind

Really struggling tonight, hate feeling in a foul mood when woken up because it obviously isn't DS's fault!

I just need to suck it up he's only a month old

MummyCuddlesSolveEverything · 04/03/2018 05:19

I think we're on wake 4(since I went to bed at 10ish.) Sad thing is that's an improvement on last night. Feeling tired but I can tell that getting a little bit more is helping.

frozenmargarita17 it's so unfair when they nap! my dh had a nap the other day, I got home and could hear him snoring so from downstairs he's that loud. He usually get up an hour to 2 hours after me and ds. Tried waking him up Friday but was annoyed I had to do that, it makes me feel more like his mum than wife. and ds makes so much noise in the morning I don't know how he sleeps though it I keep telling him I'm exhausted and that he gets more sleep in one day than I do a week. He's set an alarm for tomorrow so he doesn't sleep too late, but me and ds will have been up for at least an hour by then.

Cheshire it's really tough, especially at the start when you're getting used to things. I know they are supposed to wake up but it doesn't make it easy. I'm sure you're doing a great job.

Meepmoop · 04/03/2018 05:55

On wake up 8, feed 3. DH is an extremely heavy sleeper so doesn't hear anything. When DS wakes up for the day he's going to take him so I can have an extra hour though.

Sorry to hear others are having rubbish nights to, it really is horrible not getting sleep.

theplacesyouwillgo · 04/03/2018 06:45

Dd is nearly 16 months. Last night woke every 2 hours. Then was awake from half 2 until 4 and up again at 6. So knackered. 😔

Haypanky · 04/03/2018 07:51

Why is it that when the baby has a half decent night, the pre schooler has you up repeatedly... Got properly tag teamed!

lizzlebizzle33 · 04/03/2018 08:13

It almost worse isn't it because you expect to be up with the baby, you're prepared (ish) for that, but when the older one has you up all night too it's just awful!

My boys are 22mo and 4 mo, and I'm so ready for ds1 to start talking so he can tell me what's wrong with him, this stage is tedious!

Just waking up for the day here, I thought we were up at 6 as ds2 was wide awake but I managed to settle him back down.
Standard night here, could have been better but could have been a lot worse.

I hope you're not all too stingy eyed this morning, happy Sunday!😄

FrozenMargarita17 · 04/03/2018 10:06

@MummyCuddlesSolveEverything I made him do the overnight last night. He NEVER offers. He also likes to tell me how tired he is. Angry

FrozenMargarita17 · 04/03/2018 10:09

Oh yes and because he did last night (and sat up to 4am for some reason) he is now asleep on the sofa. I was woken up because he didn't put her down for her nap that she has EVERY DAY an hour after she gets up, and she was grizzling. He knows this. Usually I'm up and back in bed before he even leaves for work.

UtterlyConfused111 · 04/03/2018 12:53

@frozenmargarita
I think this is why I won’t make DH do a night with the baby. He would sleep the whole of the next day - he already goes for a three hour nap every Saturday and Sunday (without doing any of the nights - baby and I sleep in baby’s room). A night might actually kill him...I was thinking of asking him for the night off as a Mother’s Day gift rather than the usual over priced flowers he has delivered...

UtterlyConfused111 · 04/03/2018 12:56

@lizzlebizzle
The girls are 29months and 5months old and DD1 has started waking up a lot more frequently since the baby arrived. Before that she was a model 7 to 7 sleeper... think it’s the age + arrival of new baby... others here have had similar experience when I was going mental in an earlier post about DD1 keeping me awake in a tag team with DD2....

lizzlebizzle33 · 04/03/2018 13:30

Same here @UtterlyConfused111 a couple of days after baby arrived ds1 started waking up screaming several times a night, sometimes completely inconsolable, he was also previously a really good sleeper. He has settled back down now though, the odd moan which we ignore unless it escalates!
He's never had a bottle either, after x gave up BF while pregnant he just wasn't interested, so we couldn't even settle him with that.

He's got to the point where he will kiss baby good night now. Such a relief, I thought he was going to hate him forever!

MummyCuddlesSolveEverything · 04/03/2018 13:37

Apparently dh understands how tired I am, he has no idea, how can he?! How can you have a baby that wakes up all night but be getting so much extra sleep! Part of me wants to ask him to go downstairs in the morning while I get an extra hour in bed, but it upsets me that I have to ask. He's seen me in tears after rough nights and it's never even crossed his mind.
He did take ds down once or twice when he was about 7weeks old - I just handed ds to him and put a pillow over my head!

Sorry, I feel like I just come here and moan to you all about being tired and dh, but it's difficult to talk to people irl about especially when they seem to have such helpful partners.

xxrealistmumxx · 04/03/2018 13:46

Sorry to hear about the crappy nights. My current sleep thief is only 6 months old. Hearing about the older sleep thieves shenanigans on this thread is making me lose the will to live! I'm naively clinging to the belief that no. 3 will follow suit of DC1and2 and get the sleeping night thing by the time he a toddler. No idea why I think this as so far he has been a total wild card, nothing like the other two.

On Day 2 of antibiotics and starting to feel a bit better though still pretty rough. DH and the kids have planned an early Mother's Day for me today as DH is away next weekend. I have had a lovely breakfast and lunch cooked for me, cake and looking forward to a bath and a movie later. Having a family can be the hardest job in the world at times but there are lovely parts to it too must remember this during the tangry moments!

Better than usual night here, just two wake ups - must've been my Mother's Day gift from LO! Fully expecting a return to the usual antics tonight though I'll still feel disappointed of course