The great non-sleepers, newborn and beyond.

[NinaMarieP]

Thread number four (I think).

Welcome to all past posters and any new ones who are also up at all hours!

We had to wait three weeks from referral for the appointment so pretty good. Hope they can help too. I'm at the end of my tether tonight 😔 I feel so bad I can't seem to comfort him when he is screaming. Bloody charity door to door people just woke him up knocking too. I'm not normally uncharitable but that really did piss me off. Plus DH won't be back for a few hours. Just had a bit of a cry!

Hope the weigh goes well. DS has dropped 2 centiles so we are having to keep an eye on his weight. Hopefully your DD will be gaining better now the vomiting has reduced!!

Stupid question but how do you knoe what time your baby's bed time is to try and move it? My DS is nearly 9 weeks old so maybe to early to try but to be honest he just sleeps when he wants. We do bathtime at 7pm so maybe in our room at 8pm by the time I've done massage etc. I stay with him and feed him to sleep whilst watching tv. Sometimes he sleeps from 9pm sometimes as late as 11pm. I would love to not have to go up at 7pm myself (sucks at the weekend!!) but wouldnt know how to change that. He wont sleep in anything but me or his bed

Jellybean Oh, I know what you mean. It's really hard caring for an unsettled, unputdownable baby all day long. I hate it when DH is doing overtime or going out. It makes it for a very long day. Hope the night is a little better for you.

@Jellybabie3 not sure either... I have been trying to get DS to sleep since 6.45 and he's only now nodding off. He wasn't overtired at the beginning either as he had just had a nap..

Thanks @AMagdalena
It certainly is tough. I'm exhausted, physically and mentally! He's a lovely little boy but my goodness he is hard work! DH home for around 11.30... Not that he will probably see us. But will be nice to know he is here in the house.

Oh goodness reflux is going to kill my whole family! The gaviscon was causing constipation so I reduced the amount of gaviscon I was giving DD, which has caused the reflux to raise its ugly head again. And both me and DH are starting to suffer with the lurgy

@theotherendofthesockportal there are other anti reflux meds the gp can prescribe so maybe go back and ask.

@theotherendofthesockportal we tried ranitidine after gaviscon but unfortunately not helped for us. Appointment today to discuss alternative treatment so will let you know what's suggested

DS finally went to sleep on my chest at 10.30. Just tried feeding lying down but he's having none of it. So looks like I am staying sitting up. Great.

Morning all. We have had a better day. DS has been going three hours between feeds again and we even had one at four hours! Currently on the boob and wondering what the rest of the night will bring.

So it's going to be one of those nights is it? When we are up every 2 1/2 hours :-/

Morning. My 10 week old was only waking once a night, but here we are again, the curse of 2.30!

So this eve I had my first break from DS in nearly 9 weeks by having a bath on my own while DH looked after him. It was lovely despite two early interruptions to check 'are his feet too big for this sleepsuit' and then 'are you sure he fits OK in this sleepsuit'. For god sake. But after that it was lovely. I read a chapter of my book, enjoyed a bath bomb etc. Got to bed all chilled to find of course 'he needs feeding'. Fair enough. DS was massively over tired so it takes me an extra hour to get him to sleep whilst DH turns the light off to go to sleep for work. Eventually DS is down and stays that way til 4am. Meanwhile, i am WIDE awake. What and why???? Nooooooo is all that goes through my mind. And now DS is up and I have already had to do 3c nappy changes sigh. I have to be out of here early for postnatal group so fingers crossed round two I get some sleep

Had such a weird night tonight, DS had a nappy change at 2am and since then has been super hyper, I just got him to sleep in the sling.

Has anyone else experienced the baby being hyper at night? He was practically bouncing out of his play chair and laughing at everything (cute but not what you want at 4am...)

His naps were a bit disturbed yesterday so I'm wondering if that's had something to do with it, but he also seems to be going through some massive developmental stuff right now (he's 16 weeks)

Woken at 4.40 for a feed, and now we have had screaming due constipation for the past half an hour :( @HashtagTired we are going to try and phone the doctor again first thing. @Jellybean2017 I hope you get a treatment that works for your DS

Progress! We had up to four hits between feeds! We had 7, 11, 2.15, 5.45. May have been able to stretch out 5.45 a bit but he had been grizzling for 45 minutes (I dozed) and when I got him out of his crib he was soaked through. DH hadn’t put the Pampers Ultra Dry on like he is meant to at the late feed. 😤

Did the last feed lying down in bed which went really well. Was totally relaxed as had set it all up properly so we could both fall asleep okay. However we were both wide awake so got up when feed finished and now I am enjoying my morning porridge whilst he lays in his swing/rocker.

Happy Hanna! Let’s hope this wasn’t a one off!

Good morning! that sounded way perkier than i actually feel but fake it till you make it

@gingerhanna so glad you had a better night. Gives you hope that not every night will be a torture session, hopefully the only way is up!

Not had hyper baby yet cos DS is still very young but he's sometimes wide awake, huge eyes staring at everything! I feel like he's on the verge of trying to smile, the cutie.

Night was....not sure actually. All a bit of a blur after 1am. Took us a while to settle him at first, he wouldn't take a feed but the reason became apparent when he did a massive poonami! He slept after that, first feed at 1 then several feeds after and much restlessness. I did get some sleep but it took me by surprise if that makes sense - one minute I'm lying next to his cot begging him to sleep, the next I'm awake, he's asleep and I'm not sure what happened...then he grunts awake and we're off again!

So am feeling tired today but got play dates planned to get me out the house.

Hi everyone!

Can I join? 16 month old has never slept through the night and is also a nightmare to get down for a nap. I'm exhausted!

I’m having a bad morning

Woke to find the cat had used our bed as a toilet to pee on!!
Managed to strip it and was changing DS nappy to which he then vomited milk all over himself. Cleaned him up put a nappy on him and then he pooped all up his back.

My life just seems to consist of bodily fluids now..

In good news he slept in his cot last night though

So the paediatrician said he doesn't think it's reflux but prescribed omeprazole to try 🤔

But basically said all the problems are due to a sleep association and we need to start controlled crying, even though he is only four months. I burst into tears during the appointment as we are just getting conflicting advice at every turn. He said if we leave it much longer before doing controlled crying then it will just get worse for us. Don't know what to do.

@jellybean2017 sorry to hear that. I'll admit I'm a bit about that 'advice' - how does he know that for certain? It feels like the wrong thing to say to a sleep deprived mum especially as sleep training is a controversial area. And I agree four months is rather early.

That's not me judging at all btw - if DS turns out to be a sleep challenger like his sister, I'll definitely be trying it!

There's a lot of threads about sleep training on here, and many advocate a gentle method. So you could look into that? Be warned though- sure you've seen that people can get very nasty about it, some strong opinions.

Hugs for you, it's a difficult one, and only you can know what is right for your wee one.

@Jellybean2017 Omg! Controlled crying with a 4 month old, is he nuts? And what did he base this expert opinion on? Even sleep consultants who advocate sleep training agree it shouldn't be done with babies younger than 6 months. With so much rubbish advice coming from health professionals it's no wonder parents are finding it so hard to cope.

DS is on Omeprazole. It makes him throw up more (a lot more than before), but it bothers him less or not at all. He's now a 'happy chucker' - it's annoying as far as having lots of laundry to do, both mine and his clothes are constantly puked up, but at least he's not in pain.
Just to warn you, he's become more gassy since on Omeprazole, apparently that and throwing up are common side effects so you might also want to give him infacol or something like that.

@Jellybean2017 that sounds like really poor advice. I'm outraged on your behalf. Can you ask for a second opinion? You poor thing 💐

Agreed, that's lousy advice! I would ask for a second opinion. I hate it when doctors say "I don't think it's X but that's what we will treat him for." Well if you don't think it IS X then don't treat him for X. Get off your arse and work out what it really is!

We are still having lousy nights here as his nose is still blocked. He is spending more of the night propped up in my arms than he is in his own bed. I'm knackered.

Plus his daytime feeding has gone to shit, he just pulls off all the time and fights me even if we're at home in the quiet and calm.

@ven83 paediatrician said to give omeprazole in the evening after a feed - is this what you've been doing? Doesn't sound right...

Thanks all for your support. Think DH has taken what paediatrician said as gospel so will have to discuss it properly when he is home later.

@Jellybean I am shocked at the advice you received!
I have always been under the impression that you should not attempt sleep training if reflux (or other medical conditions) aren't under control!
Why does the doctor seem to think it's not reflux? Does your DS not spit up?

I had DD weighed today and all is good. I am to tak

(Pressed 'post' by accident)
I am to take pics of DD's poo to show the paediatrcian so we are taken seriously