Well, we are having some success with starting a bed-time routine at about 7.30 - bath, feed, cries in arms, maybe more feed, sleeps! She is now sleeping between 10 and 11, a great improvement, but doesn't sleep for as long and wakes up more frequently - grrr! I'd also like to spend less than 3 hours getting her to bed! Am trying Pantley's tips and still hoping to avoid cc. Any stories of positive experiences with this approach would be warmly welcomed...