I thought we were done with the sleep regression...

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On my knees here. Ds is 5 months old and has never been a great sleeper but I'm running out of ideas and patience now. He cannot/will not sleep for more than 3 hours at a time. Before the 4 month sleep regression hit we could get a 4/5 hour stretch and then another 3 hours which I was more than happy with. We were at a christening yesterday with most of our nct group who were talking about the 8/9/12 (!) hour stretches they get at night which has convinced dh that there is something 'wrong' with our baby. I'm just tired, he's bf so the night wakings fall to me to deal with.

Bedtime is 7pm, room is dark, white noise is playing. Change into bed clothes then big breastfeed. Sometimes he will fall asleep when feeding and I can put him down, sometimes it's a couple of rounds of twinkle twinkle with rocking. Where I can I try to put him down slightly awake.

He has a dummy and sometimes also holds a comforter as his hands can be busy if he isn't properly asleep. He never gets into a deep enough sleep where the dummy falls out. We usually end up cosleeping from 4/5 onwards as he won't settle.

If he's been asleep less than 3 hours he usually gets rocked to sleep if he wakes, otherwise it's a feed. He's a great napper and goes down about every 90 mins in the day.

Any suggestions/advice would be very welcome. I do get annoyed and frustrated at still being up 4+ times a night and I know that dh wants to try leaving him to cry which I'm not sure about. I think we'd be handling this better if every other baby at any groups I go to wasn't some kind of magic sleeping machine! Sorry for the rant.

Hello. Please can I join you? Everyone in RL is bored of my moaning and I feel like this could be a safe place

DS2 is the shittest sleeper I ever met. 21 weeks old, in his own cot in the spare room where I join him when I go to bed. Always end up co sleeping at some point each night. I don't enjoy it, but it keeps the peace.

DS1 who is now 3yo slept through at 10weeks . I say this not to brag but to demonstrate how two babies same size, same sex, same parents can have vastly different habits.

It's them, not you!

Hi Thursday welcome.

Thanks for your words of 2nd child wisdom.

My DH was born on 27th Dec. So only two weeks difference.

Not sure my relationship with DP is going to last through this. He doesn't understand sleep deprivation and is very unsupportive. He thinks I'm being constantly irrational - obvs I haven't slept in months!!!
Doesn't want to co-sleep as he likes to drink and then he would have to sleep on sofa. Which means I'm up and down like a yoyo all night because he insists on baby being in the cot. He will help settle the baby at bedtime and his first wake up. After that it's all me. How much help are you getting from partners if you have them?

Ladylolly that's not gReay your not getting the support you need from DP. They just don't get it.

My DP can be great when he wants to be. But other times he's just completely useless. He's never done a night feed and has only done bed time routine once. Me and DD end up Co sleeping from around 4am onwards. I take her into our spare room so not to disturb DP before work or because he's been drinking at the weekend.

He'll come in from work and complain he's tired then sit on his phone. I have to tell him to play with her or demand that he does bath time. I understand he's tired from work but I'm shattered to. And I've recently returned to work only doing 1.5 days but I'm the one up in the night to do the feeds. Oh this has turned into a rant! Sorry ladies lol.

Hello hello, I'm still here.
We seem to have plateaued on 4 wake ups a night, 2 of them being feeds. Can't remember when I last had more than 3 hours sleep. Ds is in his big cot and in hia own room and we are currently doing gradual withdrawal with him (not that we are seeing any effect). I suspect the issue may be the dummy but I'm not sure I want to wean him off it this side of teething.
Crikey, your babies have been busy growing teeth! We've got a lot of hand chewing and drool but that's about it.
I refuse to talk about baby sleep with anyone in rl now as I'm so fed up of their opinions.

lady That sounds tough, you need all the support you can get. Hope you can give him a nudge to be more helpful.

lady that really does sound rotten
I'm very lucky that DH works from home, so he sees what I do every day, and is very much a part of bringing them up. I do have to grit my teeth when he complains he is tired, but mostly he is very empathetic to my sleep deprivation.

I have done all but two nights with DS2, DH would be willing to do more but the bottle feeding just doesn't comfort DS2 in the same way, and I need him to deal with DS1 if he wakes in the night, or at breakfast.

DS2 surprised us all today by having a two hour nap and went down for me at 8pm without too much fuss. Here's hoping tonight's the night leap four fucks the fuck off

How is everybody doing?

Sleep is still the same here we're now trying to get her to get herself to sleep at night. So far DD has been doing really well. First night not a problem think she was just too tired. Second night took 40 minutes which I think is still really good considering since the day she was born she's been rocked to sleep or fell asleep in arms.

Naps during the day seem to be a bit tougher if we're in the house. She fights it something terrible but I'm sticking to my guns and not rocking her. Mummy will power!

Said l her first word! 'Mumma'! Chuffed didn't come close haha!

Hope things have improved for you all!

That's fab littleelephant! Glad things have improved and she's starting to settle alone. Can't believe she said her first word, we have nothing yet despite dh repeating dada a million times a day haha

We had 2 weeks of absolute hell when his 2 bottom teeth came through but thankfully things have improved. Since weds last week (so 10 days) DS has been waking once for a feed and staying in his cot all night most nights which was unheard of!
I'm sure it'll all change again soon but for now I'm very happy.
It actually got better when I made the decision to stop breastfeeding which I didn't think would have an impact. But he is in a much better routine now. He is having his morning and afternoon nap in his cot and all times he goes down its taking less than 5 mins (bottle then just doses off in my arms and put him down, so not self settling).
I'm still bf if he wakes up at 5am as it's the only way I can get another hour out of him but I don't think there's any milk left just he finds it relaxing!

Are you still offering night feeds?

That's grear Mya he's in his cot all night. That 5am wake up Is a nightmare it's such an awkward time.

Haha I was so chuffed it was mumma OH wasn't happy and still isn't. I just make it worse.

Yep she's still getting a bottle at night. Gets a bottle between 7.45 and 8.30 then up between 11.30 and 12.30 for a bottle then usually another one around 4am.

Last night was a strange one took. She took a bottle at 8.30 then 12.20 then that was her till 6.20 when we got up managed to get her to take 2 oz. We woke up at 2.50 but was not giving in to a bottle. But she just wanted her comforter and covers back on.

Not sure when to try stop the night feeds. Just think she still needs the formula as she only drinks water during the day and cows milk in her cereal. But she's a grubber! She doesn't stop eating now!

Fingers crossed things keep up for you Mya2016!