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I thought we were done with the sleep regression...

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Nousername2015 · 13/06/2016 05:34

On my knees here. Ds is 5 months old and has never been a great sleeper but I'm running out of ideas and patience now. He cannot/will not sleep for more than 3 hours at a time. Before the 4 month sleep regression hit we could get a 4/5 hour stretch and then another 3 hours which I was more than happy with. We were at a christening yesterday with most of our nct group who were talking about the 8/9/12 (!) hour stretches they get at night which has convinced dh that there is something 'wrong' with our baby. I'm just tired, he's bf so the night wakings fall to me to deal with.

Bedtime is 7pm, room is dark, white noise is playing. Change into bed clothes then big breastfeed. Sometimes he will fall asleep when feeding and I can put him down, sometimes it's a couple of rounds of twinkle twinkle with rocking. Where I can I try to put him down slightly awake.

He has a dummy and sometimes also holds a comforter as his hands can be busy if he isn't properly asleep. He never gets into a deep enough sleep where the dummy falls out. We usually end up cosleeping from 4/5 onwards as he won't settle.

If he's been asleep less than 3 hours he usually gets rocked to sleep if he wakes, otherwise it's a feed. He's a great napper and goes down about every 90 mins in the day.

Any suggestions/advice would be very welcome. I do get annoyed and frustrated at still being up 4+ times a night and I know that dh wants to try leaving him to cry which I'm not sure about. I think we'd be handling this better if every other baby at any groups I go to wasn't some kind of magic sleeping machine! Sorry for the rant.

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MYA2016 · 23/06/2016 16:29

Little elephant i would take that as an improvement! Well done

Sorry to hear things are still not great op :-(
And for you too ladylolly. Your Ds sounds so similar to what mine has been like for over 2 months.

If it makes you feel any better.. I absolutely dreaded putting him in his own room. I always said I'd keep him in for as long as he fit in his snuzpod as I thought he has the rest of his life to sleep away from me. Plus the fact I didn't want to be in and out of bed all night.
Once we got through then first night I strangely felt better, because any get ups you do you are more aware of so they don't tend to blur into one does that make sense?

And I hear him clearly through the monitor every time he wakes... even though he doesn't actually cry for the first few mins he just stirs but I am still hearing it. I actually never used to hear him stirring when he slept next to me I would only be tuned in when he cried!
my guilt about moving him at 5 months has gone now because he's sleeping better and he seems so much happier in himself.

You can always try moving your babies and if after a few nights It's not working out just move them back Smile

catlike1979 · 24/06/2016 10:57

I haven't got any solutions I'm afraid but just wanted to say we're in exactly the same situation!!! 5 month old (4 months corrected) DS has started waking at 10/11pm, 1am, 3am and 5am having previously slept through for a few weeks.

I just bedshare and shove boob in face and he goes back to sleep but I'm such a light sleeper I can't sleep well and when he does wake even if goes back to sleep I'm then lying awake for ages. By 5am I'm a crying wreck.

Anyone else share these feelings of immense frustration at 5am?

Wondering whether I just need to ride it out, or whether sleeping so close to him means I am always "on tap" and the regular waking/feeding will continue. I do believe that babies wake in night for comfort and thus it is appropriate to give the boob but equally, I'm not sure how long I can sustain only a couple of hours sleep a night before I break.....

Ladylolly · 24/06/2016 18:07

Catlike I have the same dilemma regarding bedsharing. Unfortunately we are living between grandparents houses this summer and have no separate room for him to sleep in.

I'm with you in riding it out. I've given up on the 5am anxiety it's too exhausting on top of the sleep deprivation. Just repeat 'this to shall pass' over and over like a mantra. Also found that just agreeing with everyone else's advice and then ignoring it also helps Wink.

The worst is the pity/gloating from other parents.

LittleElephant123 · 27/06/2016 21:00

How's everybody getting on? We're pretty much the same up for feed at 11, 3 and 6 stirring a couple of times in between. DD going to her gran and papas at the weekend so me and Oh can get a sleep!

HolisticMama13 · 27/06/2016 21:30

Our DD is 11 months and has only in the last 2 weeks started going 4 hour stretches and she's BF....good luck! Xx

Nousername2015 · 28/06/2016 06:49

elephant Same schedule here! We've been pretty consistent with feeds between 11 and 12, 3 and 4 and then up for the day between 6 and 7. I feel fine on this amount of sleep. Ds massively fights going back to sleep after the 4am feed though and ends up coming into our bed. What annoys me is that dh and mil still view this sleep pattern as a problem and not normal, that bit is really getting to me now!

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Ladylolly · 28/06/2016 08:28

2-3 wake ups a night is the dream. We are still up 5 times night on average although he does settle quickly. The lack of improvement is probably due to the fact we are travelling around the country at the moment. Starting solids today hoping they may help a little.

MYA2016 · 28/06/2016 08:51

Hi all. Things are still good for us for now. He's sleeping from 7.30-2.30 then having a feed, going back know down till around 4.30/5.00 and then coming into bed with us till between 6/7.
So he's basically doing very similar to your babies only he's dropped the 11.30 waking so we get a much longer stretch. How long for though is anyone's guess. He has been good 1.5 weeks now
Keep going x

Ladylolly · 28/06/2016 18:20

MYA2016 thats great news. Are you still settling to sleep with boob? DS is now struggling to stay asleep when put down and will wake after 15-20 mins and then again 15-20 mins later. Is it even possible to have a regression within a regression? Confused
I am starting to feel like giving him the boob is making things worse but can't face the aggravation of the alternatives being this sleep deprived.
Other than their own room (which I will try as soon as we are home again) anyone got any ideas?

Nousername2015 · 29/06/2016 20:30

Wow lady, that is tough! Where you are now could you try moving the cot away from your bed if it is at the side? I've been reading the Gentle Sleep Book and that suggests playing white noise all night to help with self settling, is that an option?

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Ladylolly · 30/06/2016 07:39

I have halfheartedly tried white noise as I find it really annoying to sleep with. Maybe I should try it again.
We had the same last night up 20 mins after put down resettled up 20 mins after that and up for an hour got him settled to be up crying unconsolably (a cry I have never heard before) 30 mins later. It's so strange.
He then slept 10.30 - 3.30 with one stir, that's the longest stretch we've had in while!
Feels like I'm bashing my head against a wall

Nousername2015 · 30/06/2016 12:59

I've got an app called Baby Sleep Sounds. It's got all sorts of different noises on it, maybe try that to see if there's one better for you? 10:30 to 3:30 is brilliant! Hope it continues.
I've started putting ds in his crib for day sleeps now, hoping that this will also help him to settle at night. He did 8pm until just before 1am last night which is an amazing stretch for him.

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Ladylolly · 30/06/2016 21:11

Wow that's a really good stretch. Looks like the white noise is working Wink

MYA2016 · 02/07/2016 09:54

How's everyone doing? The last few nights we're back to waking every 2 hours. FFS Angry

catlike1979 · 02/07/2016 10:19

So sorry MYA, us too :-( DH can settle DS without a feed usually but when it's my turn I just give him the boob as I don't have the energy for middle of night rocking. Not sure if this is bad habit but too tired :-(

LittleElephant123 · 02/07/2016 11:02

Back to the same here. Thursday into Friday we were up at 3.30-5.15! She was blowing raspberries, telling stories cheeky monkey! Then last night we went to sleep at 8.30 up at 11.30 then 1.55 - wide awake. Managed to get her back to sleep within half an hour tho thankfully! Then 5 (I thought it was 6am) tool her in with us.

DD off to her gran and papas for a night (possibly 2 if I can leave her) sleep here we come!

I'm going back to work in a couple of weeks from 1 and a half days hope she fixes this sleeping situation before then!

MYA2016 · 02/07/2016 16:23

Sorry to hear that both! I have no idea what to do to help him sleep now. I'm out of ideas Sad
last night he went to bed at 7.30, woke at 9.45, 10.50, 12.30, 3 (came into our bed) 5, up for the day at 6.30.
He cried and cried till I breastfeed him every Time! He cannot be hungry... he's now doing so well with weaning and is enjoying food 3 times a day, he never ever cries in the day as he's so happy.
I just don't get what it is about night time!
I don't think it's a growth spurt as he's not seeming any more hungry in the day and he still is showing no signs of teething!

Nousername2015 · 02/07/2016 16:29

We had a spate of middle of the night waking that took ages to settle. cat I can't be bothered to rock him at that time either so just offer boob. We had an interesting night last night, went up to bed at 10 and decided to try a dream feed before I went to sleep... He slept until 3! So that was 8ish until 3 with no proper wake up!

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Nousername2015 · 02/07/2016 16:30

Most probably a one off though but will try again tonight!

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LittleElephant123 · 02/07/2016 17:11

I'm sorry to hear that Mya! They are definatley testing us. Is he still taking milk during the day?

DD fed everytime she was up last night just when I thought we were cutting the night time feeds down. I'm still offering her milk throughout the day in between meals and snacks wee grubber will take maybe 1 or 2 oz then the food an hour or so later.

OP that's a good run long may it continue for you!!

We just have to remind ourselves it's all worth it and it will pass . . . Soon? . . . Maybe . . . .hopefully

catlike1979 · 02/07/2016 18:06

This too shall pass! That's my motto!! Sooooo tired

Ladylolly · 04/07/2016 10:00

We have been travelling this weekend and sharing a tiny bed. The wake ups were quite bad but the tiny punches and kicks in between were worse!
Then back to our big bed at Granny's and refused to settle till 10pm but then up at 2:15 5:50 6:20 and 7:50. so a massive improvement last night. Excited to see if we can keep this up!

MYA2016 · 04/07/2016 10:07

That's good ladylolly let us know if things keep improving! We've ended up back bedsharing the last few nights because he just will not settle in his cot at all. He wakes as soon as he's put down and sobs and sobs and this goes on for hours. As soon as he comes in our bed he's sleeping 4/5 hours at a time! He's eating so well in the day that I know he can't keep needing 2-3 night feeds but I have no idea how else to get him back to sleep?!

LittleElephant123 · 04/07/2016 10:18

DD has been at her gran and papas since Saturday both days I was up at the cracks if dawn. Can't even sleep when she's not here lol. Only to get a text yesterday saying her 1st tooth has cut through!! And that she had a really great night only up twice lol. Wait till she comes home then normality will resume.

May what about offering him water instead of milk? My aunt who's a midwife told me to do this with DD but I didn't feel confident enough she was eating enough during the day. I've still not done it yet but purely because I'm scared she'll properly wake up and have a tantrum at 2am haha

Lady lolly that's great there's an improvement hopefully it'll get better now

Nousername2015 · 04/07/2016 15:08

Remember that amazing night I had? Total 1 off. Back to being up every other hour. He is now fighting sleep at ever opportunity. It is regularly taking 1hr+ to get him down for a nap, if I put him in his crib he will only nap for 20 mins! Grrr, I've run out of ideas!

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