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Anyone up? Could do with a handhold

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Zaurak · 08/06/2016 23:23

I know I haunt these boards but I'm at a real low tonight. Ds (8mo) is not sleeping. Again. I'm averaging under an hour of sleep a night. I just can't cope.
Sitting in tears next to an inconsolable screaming baby and frankly want to chuck myself out the window at the thought of another day with zero sleep.
Sorry. Just needed a vent.

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Comfortzone · 09/06/2016 20:18

Finally: m.youtube.com/results?q=reflux%20baby%20to%20sleep%20how&sm=3

I used to watch videos to help me figure out everything with my babies found it very helpful as was abroad no family to help me! Hope this helps you too OP

Zaurak · 09/06/2016 20:30

I will watch the vid :)
My mum has sent me an emergency bonjela shipment which hopefully should arrive tomorrow. They don't sell it here (I went and grilled the pharmacist and it was like I was asking for heroin rusks...)

I don't go to every little grumble and haven't from the start -ds does have his little squeaks and I just watch him on the monitor and go to him when he's actually awake and upset (he's usually going mama! Mama!)

He's eaten today finally. Still sniffly (snot sucker has been in use all day) and still sore gums but thankfully the fever is gone.

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Handsoffmysweets · 09/06/2016 20:31

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JingleJangleJudy · 09/06/2016 20:32

Comfort, you sound so warm, calm and comforting! I wish you were around when mine was a baby! OP you are doing really well. I understand how difficult it can be - I had a 24hr screamer with horrible reflux, allergies, complex health issues and I remember counting his sleep in minutes (It was an achievement when he slept for three whole minutes out of my arms!!)
It is awful. Keep posting, there are people thinking of you and wishing you well. BrewCakeSmile

GraceGrape · 09/06/2016 20:51

All those tummy troubles definitely sound like a dairy or other allergy/intolerance. A private paediatrician if you could see one might be most helpful (no idea about the healthcare system in Sweden). Otherwise a dairy - free trial for both of you. ( Lots of alternative milks - mine drink Oatly, made in Sweden!). They're not suitable as a main drink for babies but good for putting in cereal . Otherwise, you have to rely on meat, eggs, nut butters, hummus etc. It's possibly worth taking a calcium supplement.

Also, he's a bit older now so probably moving around his cot lots anyway, but if it is reflux then some babies are more comfortable on their stomach or side.

Zaurak · 09/06/2016 20:59

We have him propped in a wedge doodah and before when he'd sleep in the cot that was raised at the head end. I never saw a difference. He's never been a good sleeper - never really had that sleepy newborn stage. He is just getting worse and worse with the sleep though

Sweden is a funny place. Some things are great and some I find hard to cope with :/ but we're here so I need to deal with it.

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lorribaby · 09/06/2016 21:12

Hi have you tried carobel which you add to a feed or mix it and let him take it off a teaspoon. I used gaviscon but it caused constipation. Carobel can be bought on Amazon and is basically a thickner but has been a godsend for my dd who has silent reflux. Cow & gate carobel they might have something similar in Sweden x

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Want2bSupermum · 09/06/2016 21:36

Also teething is extremely painful. Sometimes baby paracetamol doesn't work. Here in the US they have you mix baby ibuprofen and paracetamol. You take one and then the other at four hour intervals. I used hylands homeopathic tablets for DD1. For DS tylenol did nothing and oddly enough he found great comfort chewing on a frozen bagel.

Zaurak · 09/06/2016 22:07

it looks painful - poor little things, it's such a cruel process to go through. They can't tell you where it hurts and have no concept of it being better soon.., two have pushed through the gum - three to go!

Does carobel work if they're on solids? I'll look out for it. Most things can be ordered over the web if they're not sold here.

Will look out for gripe water too ... I'm sure the old stuff with him in it would work,

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CaitAgusMadra · 09/06/2016 22:10

Just a suggestion for the calpol / nurofen. Suppositories are great as you can be sure what dose they've had.

Zaurak · 09/06/2016 22:11

Gin! Not him ...

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Comfortzone · 09/06/2016 22:26

I used to feed mine the calpol while letting them wash their hands - um, yes it was rather tricky to hold baby and shove spoonful of medicine in at the same time but they stayed still enough because the running water was a great distraction

Or 'ohhhhh look at the BIG BIRD!' and in with the spoonful

Oh don't we LOVE parenting!

Zaurak · 10/06/2016 08:22

Yes I'm going to get suppositories- poor kid but has to be less traumatic than the struggle we are having to dose him orally - he had a complete meltdown last night over it
He a little better today - still choked up with snot but feeding more normally. And its Friday :)

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Footle · 10/06/2016 10:02

Suppositories are the norm for kids in lots of countries. You don't need to feel sorry for him ! They're a lot easier than oral meds.

CaitAgusMadra · 10/06/2016 11:01

Second what Footle said - my DC is also 8 months and doesn't even notice when I pop one it

Zaurak · 10/06/2016 22:32

Suppositories obtained and used! He didn't even seem to notice it, so will definitely be using that from now on.

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fluffikins · 11/06/2016 07:19

I'm a massive cheese and choc addict and have had to go dairy free. It is doable and I eat pretty much the same just a little healthier if anything - like not having a mountain of cheese on my spag Bol and only eating dark choc

Cornberry · 12/06/2016 23:00

I wish I could say something to help but I am also in the throes of sleep-deprivation and I want you to know that there are plenty of us who know how fucking awful it is and I'm so sorry you're going through this. All I can say is hang in there. And you are not a failure. You are a superwoman to be dealing with this. And when it's over you'll look back in amazement that you managed.

Zaurak · 12/06/2016 23:09

Thank you .

Dh has been an absolute star this weekend and sat up two nights in a row with ds, then got up at the crack of dawn and taken him off to play and generally wrangled him all weekend. I've been left alone to sleep with the odd cup of tea deposited next to me, dinner done and the baby brought when he needs feeding.
I feel almost human again after a few hours sleep. We will be repeating at regular intervals.
Day 1 of dairy free has gone ok. Alpro almond milk is only slightly disgusting.

Some semblance of humanity /humour restored. Ds currently snoozing as well.

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fluffikins · 13/06/2016 12:20

I'd recommend oatly barista in tea, best milk I've found that doesn't split or curdle. You can get it from ocado or morrisons does it. Koko yogurts are good, coyo yogurts are gross but good in savoury dishes like curries. For sweet treats Oreos and bourbons are good. Join the cmpa for breastfeeders Facebook group as there are lots of tips on there

Miffyandme · 14/06/2016 20:44

Zaurak I've not read the whole thread but I have seen your other posts and replied, possibly under a previous username (Lilli...)

I just wanted to say it will all pass but it is so hard in the middle of sleep deprivation. My first child had CMPA. I stopped feeding her at 7 months though and moved her on to neocate. If you are going cow's milk free, make sure you get some dietetic advice if possible for you both. The breast-feeding vitamin supplements I used contain some but not enough calcium to make up for no milk or cheese in diet. In the UK some of the mixed white/brown bread is supplemented by calcium and I worked out I could actually get most of my requirements from that rather than less palatable soya milks etc....

Glad your DH stepped up. Hope things improve. I frequently muse on how very different the life of people whose babies sleep well must be!

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