4 month sleep regression- oh.my.god.

[hazel88]

So my DD has just hit the 4 month sleep regression hard. It sucks. It really sucks. for a short while she had been doing 6 hour chunks for the first part of the night followed by 1 or 2 wakings after. On the rare occasion she would just wake up once for a feed then that was it. BLISS. She's now waking up more times than I can count and I'm wondering if she'll ever sleep better again. I know about the 4 month sleep regression inside-out but would really appreciate experiences from others who have either gone through it or are going through it. I need some sanity restored...please?!

He'd only slept a few mins in the morning so I guess he needed it

Ooohhh I bet that's difficult with 2, how does ds sleep? Do they share a room.

Why. Why. Bloody why are their bikes so loud

I know , I hate bikes !!
Ds sleeps really well ( touch wood ) he usually sleeps 11-12 hours unless he is poorly . We did sleep training at 6 months as we co slept from 8 weeks as he wasn't a sleeper either . He responded well and he has slept well ever since , They don't share a room luckily .We have a single bed in dds room so I sleep in there (so I will be moving out when she is six months )

Morning all, how was last night?

We had 1 wake up, then DD was ready and waiting to get up at 5

First nap already!

mariloulou would be great to hear from you if you're lurking!

Did you cc with ds sycamore?

Sounds good hazel! Except for 5 am

We had an bad night again. Lost count of the wake ups and he was awake 3-4 boo!

Oh no zombie you must be shattered hope you get a good nap day

Zombie , I started off with pupd but that didn't work so we did cc at six months. Sorry you had a rough night , I would give cc a try .
Hazel , your night sounds good but very early start . DD was up 12 ,230 and 430, up for the day at 6am. Not bad compared to other nights but I still feel like I have been run over today ....

oh sycamore sorry to hear that

hope you're having a good day today

Hi all. Sorry am catching up a bit with messages as am at my folks. My fears re sleep have unfortunately proved founded thus far! Yesterday was pretty horrendous with naps - DD slept in the car for about 40 mins and then refused to nap for the entire rest of the day from about 10 onwards which is incredibly rare. .... I put her down for early bed but she woke up really upset about 1h30 in and wouldn't settle for about half an hour as she was waaaaaay overtired. Another wakeup 1h40 later with another struggle to settle. We had four wake-ups in all which is by no means horrendous I just feel like we are back to square one (which I know is a bit melodramatic!). Today's naps have been way better with 1h45 in the morning and she is down for her 2nd now so really really hoping for a more settled night. Doesn't help that it is flipping freezing in my parents house and we are in a ground floor room with unlined orange curtains so it is much lighter than DD is used to plus my parents seem to make about as much noise as a baby elephant in tap shoes . I am just hoping against hope that we manage to slip back into our normal routine once home on thurs!!!!

Sorry you had a rubbish night too Zombie for you!

Oh no penguin! Hope she goes back to her normal routines when your home. How long are you there for?

We had slightly better naps today, about 15 mins in the morning, 20 mins afternoon and almost an hour for his last nap then he went to sleep about 7.30ish.

Fingers crossed we all have better nights tonight!

Thanks Zombie. We have tonight here and then drive back tomorrow. I do love my parents but they are driving me insane!! After me asking them to keep it down a bit they have spent the day theatrically going 'shhhhhh' whilst being every bit as noisy as they were before

Thankfully naps were pretty good today so although we have already had first wake DD is so much more settled and less upset.

Glad you had an improvement with naps today. Keeping everything crossed for a better night for you!

Ooh that would wind me up penguin

Well I feel completely broken. Ds has barely slept from 10.30. He's been wide awake since around 12. I've had him in my room but he is still wide awake. I'm so tried I could cry I'm posting on mn instead I even thought that's it I'm doing cc but I know I don't have the balls to persevere with it and that's not fair

I've now just put him in his cot awake with his night light on as I'm scared I'm so tired il drop him if I have him with me

Ha that's meant to say tired obviously!

He was up until 2.15 when I fed him to sleep, then he slept until 4 then was awake again, so I fed him to sleep again I was just so tired. He woke up at 5.30

Oh Zombie that sounds so exhausting. I'm sorry you had such a difficult night again. I don't know what practical advice to give but remember that this too shall pass.

Can't wait to get back to our cosy house. We had 4 wakes again and I'm sure it was at least partly the cold. I fed to sleep a lot as I felt that 'get her to sleep by any means necessary' was the best plan.

How did the rest of you get on?

Zombie , sorry to hear you had a rubbish night . Do you think discomfort from wind or teething ?
Penguin , bet you can't wait to get back to your home comforts .
Dd woke at 12 and 3 ish and was up for the day at 5am. Moaning and two bad nappies . Took me ages to get her back to sleep for both wakings. She has now been up for nearly three hours and refusing to
Sleep ! Not a great start to the day. Ds still sleeping , least that's something ....

I have no idea sycamore, calpol didn't seem to help at all. He was so tired this morning but wouldn't sleep if I held him he was just screaming so I arranged to meet a friend to get him out the house. We were out until around 1 and he was still awake (no naps at all so far) then he fell asleep on the way back in the car and woke up around 2. He's still tired but if I hold him he just wriggles and slaps and pulls his hair and screams. Surely that's not normal? It worries me

Poor you zombie , it's so hard some days . I think it's normal for babies to behave like that when they are over tired . Dd will only sleep in the baby bjorn at the moment , it's hard work carrying her around.

I hope so sycamore nights are seeming easier to get him to sleep, but he just keeps waking up.

He's just fallen asleep on my lap.

Let's all have good nights tonight

You too! Dd is coughing like crazy so it's not looking hopeful . Hoping it's teething and not a chest infection like ds

Does teething cause a cough? Ds has been coughing randomly, not like a proper cough iyswim, he also has been having mucous nappies but I wasn't sure if that was a reaction nappy or teething ftm alert

Have you give her any calpol or anything before bed?

Yes apparently they can get a cough due to all the extra saliva . I gave her calpol at 4pm. DD has also been getting bad nappies , which is a teething sign . I feel broken today , full of cold and exhausted .

Hazel , hope you are feeling ok today

Hi ladies,

I'm so sorry to see how tough it is currently for a lot of you. I hope things naturally improve very soon, or even if you could just wing it until you could possibly consider sleep training. Just before we tried sleep training I did whatever the hell was necessary even just to squeeze an extra 5 minutes sleep in for DD and myself. Just go with it and focus on survival for now.

Yes thank you sycamore I'm not feeling too bad. Had a very busy day today and DD has been very happy which has lifted my mood she has been in a better mood I think due to fewer and longer naps today, the past couple of days have been lots of short naps making her a grumpy little monster!

The past few nights we've had 1 wake up for a feed during the night, she has woken now and then with a short sharp whimper or chatter then back off to sleep by herself requiring no intervention from us . Most mornings she's awake ready to get up at 5am, today at 6am she was still asleep until DPs alarm went off which he couldn't turn off and she woke anything past 6am is a lovely lye in! Still, I shouldn't complain.

I know I must sound like a broken record and I know it's not for everyone and that if you're interested then you need to wait until your LO and yourself feel ready, but bloody hell sleep training has really saved us.

Zombie try not to worry yourself, although that must be awful to watch your LO acting that way it sounds perfectly normal to me as she's so tired. DD has recently started pulling her ear when she's tired but she can often hit her stomach, head, pull her hair etc which is distressing to watch. It's purely and simply down to her tiredness. When she has 30 minute naps she wakes still so tired that she's just mega grumpy until she can nap again. If she doesn't get a nap throughout the day that lasts over 45 mins she'll be grouchy all day. I really do feel for you, but your LO sounds perfectly normal.

Wishing you all good nights. Hope you're able to enjoy or or even a nice bath. I'm thinking of you all

Sorry zombie, I meant DS not DD

I feel like I have been a bit rubbish at keeping up with everyone's news over the past couple of days, sorry about that. The most annoying is that on the phone you can't flick back and forth once you have started writing a post and I tend to forget what people have said!

We are now home safe and sound thank goodness. I do love my parents but they don't half drive me bonkers sometimes! If my mum told me she had to clean the kitchen of their rental property for 8 HOURS to make it fit to use she told me 100 times! They have much higher standards than me and DH pretty sure they think we live in squalor I know I am lucky to have them though. DD miraculously slept for the entire 2 hour journey home which was very helpful! Bit depressed as she seems pretty restless tonight and has already properly woken once but hopefully now we are home I can start working back to where the NCSS had got us!

Sounds like you are having a really tough time at the mo Zombie. Were you talking about getting a free CO assessment locally? I would try to do it sooner rather than later if you are set on giving it a go. Mainly sending positive thoughts and encouragement.

Sycamore hope you get some respite soon. A cold is the last thing you need on top of everything else!

Glad to hear DD is lovely and cheerful at the mo Hazel. It definitely makes things so much easier when they are happy and smiley.

Good luck tonight everyone! May the sleep gods be with us all!

Hazel glad it's all going well and it's good to hear it's not just ds who does the hair pulling!

Penguin bet you are glad to be back! My mom is pretty similar, her house is immaculate! She used to moan at me I have piles of washing everywhere, I mean everywhere but after looking after ds for a day she stopped!

He woke up for the 5th time, instead of going in his room and giving him his dummy I just sat outside as he wasn't properly crying. He started moaning/crying for a bit then did a big fart, then moaned a bit more and did another big fart then went straight back to sleep I bet it's that waking him up in the nights. I wind him for quite a while after each feed and he crawls about and sits up and gets wind up so I have no idea what else to do to help really