SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

DD has 'regressed' somewhat again- admittedly she has been unwell with a cold.

we are averaging 3/4 night wakings now. The only improvement though is now DP gets up and sees to her also, as I threatened to leave him otherwise.

Well ladies I must be mad I'm going on an actual night out tonight, with girlfriends & wine oh my god wine!!! Hope DP copes ok & the ds's are alright without me!! What's the worst that can happen - they are all still up when I get in at midnight???

The more I type this post the more I'm concerned as hangovers & a 4yo & a 6mo definitely do not/ will not mix well!!! Wish me luck!

how many of those are feeds Emma?

have fun boo...

keep- none- she hasnt fed at night now for quite a while.

its all just reassuring and dummy plugging

Comes back waving blearily, been so knackered couldn't even post on MN.

DD2 still not sleeping for longer than 4 hours. She's nearly 8 months now. That bloody 4 month sleep regression is now 4 months!

I'm not sure what to do. She goes down easily at night and naps easily during the day - sometimes 2 45 minute naps sometimes 1 big long nap which can be up to 3 hours. She is incredibly happy all day long. We are still to start proper teething.

She seems to be in the habit of waking between 10.30-midnight. She's inconsolable, shushing, stroking and cuddling makes her incandescent with the rage. I have to put her on boob. We are needless to say co-sleeping and she basically is plugged on most of the night. I don't even look at the clock now but it's at least every 2 hours she's waking. We also get nights of being up wanting to play for 2 hours. Delightful.

She appears unable to self settle at night although able to do so during the day. Which is so annoying.

So where the hell do we go from here? How do we break the waking before midnight habit?. She's getting lots of food and milk during the day so before midnight she's not hungry, just wants boob as a dummy but will not take a dummy.

She's also now waking for the day at 6am. Wasn't so bad when she would sleep till 7.

I long for the newborn weeks when she slept for chunks of 6 hours!

Thank god for .

Are you me?!! That's exactly what we are going through! We did have some recovery between sleep regressions though.
She's also dummy refusing now too - an implement that was introduced during the last one,
I am sole pacifier.

oh god soup... that's weird about the settling at night. I'd have thought it'd be easier for them as they'd be more tired. what happens if you use the boob to get her drowsy? or if dp tries to settle her? I am very aware that I just do the easy thing at night which may just be making things worse in the long term. but it's so hard when you're desperate to sleep.

Emma I guess at least if you're not having to feed then dp could do it some nights...

Hello Far. I think we did get a bit of recovery too - like only 2 wake ups for a bit. She even managed a couple of nights in a row of only waking once at 3 for a feed. They were bliss and a false dawn.

I'm just not sure what to do. DD1 took a dummy and wasn't BF at this age so it's all new to me.

I don't go back to work for another 5 months, and I'm going to struggle if DD2 doesn't at least give me a good 6 hour stretch by then.

Boob does send her back to sleep but if I attempt to put her back into the cot drowsy she pings back awake with loud yelling and refuses to settle.

DH can put her down for naps and bedtime but in the night he gives her the rage. She won't settle for anything except boob and being with me in bed. She's only proper hungry the once during the night, it's a comfort thing I think.

I have a horrible feeling we are heading towards CC in a few months time. Groan.

^absolutely everything what soup said^

That is me also, only difference is dd is 6 mths and this has occurred since 3 mths

Also fear cc is only solution...this week I am really really persevering with the dummy

We are going on 9 weeks now of 1-2 hour wake ups. He will be 6 months on Tuesday. We have had an occasional night of 2 wake ups but mostly if he goes down at 7 he will wake at 9, 11, 1, 3, 4, 5.... He usually needs a proper feed at least twice, other times can be settled. Weirdly enough he can self settle - when we put him down initially we can leave him awake and he goes to sleep without a fuss within 5 minutes. Why can't he do that in the night??
We keep trying to persevere with the cot but somewhere between 12 and 4 he ends up in with us. The only way I get rest is if I have him by me so I can quickly settle him / stick boob in mouth. No idea where to go from here (CIO not an option for us). Do I accept we are co sleeping for foreseeable future (would rather not) or don't give in to having him in bed in the hope he eventually gets better at sleeping in cot (but neither of us can really function after a night of nearly hourly wake ups). Not sure there is actually an answer I just have to hope things get better :/

Hello CakeIs. It's a bugger isn't it. I just knew I'd end up with a rubbish sleeper.

She's eaten weetabix, an avocado, half a banana, bread, a few chips (we were out for lunch is my excuse!) and then had a ladle full of lentil soup with bread and a load of Greek yoghurt with apple. How the hell can the wee lady be hungry? She also had milk feeds on waking for the day, after each meal, and before bed.

Can't believe that we are still about. So much for the 4 month sleep regression being for just a few weeks.

Morning all knackered people

We are going backwards here... DS is still sleeping for 3 hours then 90 minutes max for the rest of the night. But now he's not settling quickly in his cot after feeding but doing the whole grunting and writhing thing that I thought

Oops
... we'd got rid of by using a dummy. And when I don't feed him he'll suck the dummy and fall asleep in my arms but it's difficult to keep him asleep even next to me in bed, so I might give in and feed him after half an hour. Particular joy is when he pulls the dummy out of his mouth and throws it somewhere I can't find in the dark. So the last part of the night I just give up on trying to encourage better sleeping and lie there with him latched on to get some sleep.

The trouble is, DH has self-exiled to the sofabed the last two nights and it's going to be doubly difficult when he comes back to sleep in here.

my dh is usually in the spare room too. the other night dd had finally got herself back to sleep and he did one huge snore which woke and terrified the poor thing and we were back to square one

My DH has been in the spare room for months. We start the night together then I move in with DD2. Tis the only way, and it won't last forever. I actually like having a kingsize bed all to myself and DD2!

Same here - DH been in spare room since Xmas!

My 15 week old has started waking for a chat, lots of movement. I assume he's trying out new skills ..... Anyone else's had this?

So DS wakes an hour and a half after I've fed him, dozes next to me for about 45 min (while I'm wide awake and uncomfortable). Then when he starts trying to roll onto his tummy I feed him to sleep and shift him over into his cot. Time for some sleep now? Apparently not. He's now lying next to me wide awake, chatting and chewing on my hand. Grrr. We were doing quite well earlier...

Hello TerrifiedMother
DS is older, but he does seem to be trying to practise his rolling over skills....

marrog and terrified yes I had that with dd, the answer was to put her in a sleeping bag - she can't roll over or eat her feet whilst in it!

Yes. IME when new tricks are learnt sleep starts going downhill. When DD2 started rolling she then slept on her front. The sitting up phase is then followed by attempting to crawl in sleeping bag and then standing up in the cot. Yawn.

Can someone please tell me that one day he will sleep for more than 4 hours??? Feeling ridiculously tired after yet another awful night and feels like it will never get better :(

Africat, yes, one day he will sleep for more than 4 hours. One day my baby will also sleep for more than 2 hours at a time...

Ok ladies so have sorted daytime naps..but now nights are even worse? Wtf! What about the theory that good naps = good nights...! Obviously not in my dd case..