SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

Hi all

Can I join? Have a 14 week ds, amazing baby in the day, really happy and naps well, but a terror at night.

He's never slept that well but we have brief periods when he only wakes twice and settles easily after a bottle (we failed to bf due to late diagnosed Tt). Also some awful periods, like right now, when it's 3 feeds and refusing to settle so awake half the night and on me for the other half. I think I'm losing my mind to tiredness.

The only thing we have going right is bedtime at 7pm he goes down easily and usually sleeps to 11 even on bad nights, after then all bets are off.

I could do with some company while he plays and shouts at 4am!

hotcrossbun sounds similar to my house except 11 is rapidly becoming 10 or even 9pm these days!

Welc

Fucking phone

That's better

Welcome hotcrossbun sounds like your LO is in cahoots with cake is and boo !

cakeis the tip is from NCSS it is part of the Pantley pull off (sound so wrong!) My ds chomps away on fresh air when in light sleep, for ages sometimes. Gently closing his mouth by just a finger under his bottom jaw immediately after unlatching means the still does the suckling movement but doesn't realise his mouth is empty. I let him carry on for a few mins & lighten my touch before removing my finger altogether. Takes about 5 mins tops at the start. I don't need to do it now I started doing it when he was very nearly asleep and brought it forward gradually. If he got cross or was rooting I just relatched him til he was calm & tried again. It did take a few weeks to get where we are now. Tonight he unlatched himself, turned over & went to sleep! Even a few days ago I couldn't imagine him doing that probably never happen again

It was 9.30 tonight, just put her back down - cake I tried your tip! Seemed to work too, she didn't moan to go back on. Although I have to say she does come off herself around 50% of the time, and turns her head and arches back which is her way of saying 'put me down to sleep'. It's just the staying asleep longer than 60/90/120 mins that is the problem!

Ah, my ds thought it was entirely acceptable to try and sleep permanently latched on. I am finding that I can soothe him back to sleep without feeding (or with just a short feed) more easily now. Not sure if its connected?

It does work though, dh was a bit when I told him I was holding ds mouth shut, I think he thought I had his lips between my thumb & forefinger squeezing them shut eejit

Update for cake - tried it again at 4.30am and it seemed to work!

Yeahhh! Its the only progress we've made, but small steps and all that

How's everyone else getting on?

I don't know why I said that yesterday, OBVIOUSLY as soon as I said we had a reliable bedtime, he woke at 8 and was u all evening. I think we have teething in the mix. Went for preventative bonjela before bed tonight and has worked so far. Thinking sleepy thoughts for all the babies out there

Poor thing its just so wearing, isn't it?

It does feel like one thing after another. Of one more person tells me their baby is sleeping through I might lose it :(

My ds is not sleeping through but much improved here, still a slight feed to sleep issue but down to two wake ups a night at midnight & 4ish then usually up at 6.30 for the day, this is a million times better so CIO may not be for everyone but after only 2 nights of it last week, it certainly has made an enormous difference for us!

Would you believe ladies I actually feel worse at the moment despite the extra kip!! Must all be catching up with me, plus all full of colds in this house! Not sure if anyone remembers I mentioned ds has a "birthmark" we were referred to the paeds who told us it could be related to neurological condition or it could be nothing!! Absolutely worried sick but trying to tell myself we will be lucky & it's nothing!

Oh boo, when will you find out? Thinking of you, it's so hard waiting isn't it?

It's awful not knowing! Mind you maybe ignorance is bliss - won't make diagnosis or discharge us til he is roughly age 5/6!!!! So 5 years to go! Just telling myself he won't have it or if he does hopefully will only be mildly effected!

Hello all. It would appear we are now in the grip of teething hell. Ds has been frantically chewing everything and anything he can get his hands on for weeks now and no sign of any teeth. However when I looked last night I can now see what looks like 4 perfectly formed tiny teeth in his gums waiting to sprout, 2 each top & bottom.

He has been a moany misery for a few days and just screamed for half an hour at bedtime. He's now flaked out snoring his head off. Tonight will be interesting....

Does anyone know if teething makes them c

Sigh....

Makes them congested in the chest? Not nasally, no runny nose or cough but sounds very phlegmy in his throat and is snoring like a piglet. Has been for a few days now.

Hi. Just going through the 8 month sleep regression - and I thought the 4 month regression sucked balls, this just takes the biscuit.
I'm exhausted. And sweary.
Does it fucking end?
Yet to teethe so waiting on that future personal highlight too.

But she's taken to babbling mamamamamamamamam so it's (sometimes) all ok.

sigh

Slight improvement here now we're out of the wonder week but he has taken up residency in bed from midnight onwards, anything for sleep!

Soooo... Talk me through what to expect when we hit 4 months? Ds can self settle for naps and occasionally at night but is generally too fussy at bedtime and gets cuddled to sleep, any hope for us? Those that got through it, did you have to teach self settling or did they get it themselves in time?

Mine lost the ability to self settle at about 4.5 months. She had previously sucked her thumb and self soothed but that all went out of the window. Sorry! She did settle back down though and mostly slept 730-6ish until about 3 weeks ago....

My dd is a thumb sucker in the day..oh yes happily chomps on it for soothing..but at night - oh no, that thumb isn't anywhere near her mouth, it's like 8pm hits and the ability to thumb suck is automatically lost!
Can't even remember how many times I had to feed her to sleep last night. And I've already been up 3 times since 7.30 tonight...don't think think is any kind of regression now, I think I must have been doing something right up until 12 weeks and then obviously started some bad habits!

Hello, can I join? No regression here though, just a baby who's a crap sleeper and has been since about 3 months (now almost 6 months) He's in one of those bedside cots and I'm trying to get him not to wake up every hour and a half by not feeding him every time. The trouble is, the only other way he'll go back to sleep is lying right next to me which then means I get uncomfortable and can't sleep anyway. And he's now decided 4am is a great time for a chat. Aargh.

hi all. sigh. my dd 4.5m was never brilliant but was just starting to do 5/6/7 hours when we moved house went on holiday and she hit 4m. now she wakes at 10/11, 12.30, 2.30 and 4,5,6..... it's definitely an inability to settle without boob so I need to tackle that before it gets further ingrained. isn't it weird how some babies can feed to sleep with no issues?

life I've seen you're working on this. I feed only to drowsy at the start of the night, and most night feeds she does wake as I put her back in the cot. but it seems she needs that bit of boob... should I change the nighttime order to boob not right before bed?

last night dh cuddled her to sleep at 11 and she eventually slept 12-4.15 which was amazing so there may be something in it. though she had had her jabs yesterday...

hot for us 4 months has meant a lighter sleep even at the start of the night, and increased dependence on feed to sleep which wasn't a problem before. she can sort of self settle though naps aren't great either.