SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

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Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

gosh Artemis that sounds hellish. does she sleep lots in the day to catch up or is she knackered too. that scares me that it might not just pass...

I don't get the feed to sleep thing. all the books say how they go to sleep at the start of the night is important. dd goes down awake after her feed. that doesn't stop the night wakings where she again wants a feed but usually goes back into the cot awake. does anyone know what I should do? do I have to break the feed-to-drowsy association?

Hi Artemis. Yes, our "regression" is in it's 5th month. DD2 8 months today. We've had 3 nights of one wake up after 4am. This too will no doubt be a phase! I am convinced there is not a thing I am doing that has led to this development. We had similar issues with multiple wake ups and long periods awake.

I sometimes inadvertently feed to sleep at bedtime and DD2 will go down in cot but after a night wakening there is no chance of getting her into the cot awake or asleep. Co-sleeping worked for us.

I've tried feed to sleep and awake in cot, makes no difference to prevention of later wakings.
Have had 3 months of so called regression..also always have her in bed with me if it's past 1am. Because I am lazy!

I'm not sure if that's good news or bad news... good because it's easy to feed to sleep. bad because then wtaf can we do ?!?!

Hello all...just popping back. Commiserations to the new joiners and old timers too &

artemis you get those and and as much as you need lovey

Well, still co sleeping here, he'll do 2hrs max alone after bedtime then wakes hourly til I go to bed with him. Poor DH still in spare room [and guilt]

However, things are usually better thereafter with 2 wakings for a feed & back off. In my book that's good, but I had low expectations and am easily pleased. Wakes at 6 for a poo then sometimes persuaded to go off again til 730. Still slowly trying to cut out feeding to sleep.

Naps have changed completely, he now naps alone thank goodness, 35 mins 2 hrs after waking, longer one after lunch usually when we're out and about, cat nap in pushchair about 430 which is nice now the weather is better.

I've changed nothing. Weaning is slow progress so that's not a factor. I stand by 'you get what you're given and that's that'. If I hear one more person at a baby group smugly say 'well I followed Gina ford from day 1/gave PFB/PSB a bottle of formula before bed and got 15 hrs sleep' I may just stab them in the throat with Sophie la feckin giraffe.

So now I'm thinking if getting him into the cot which I really am dreading as the last few weeks have been the only decent sleep I've had in nearly 7 months. It's all bound to go tits up now isn't it? Along with separation anxiety, 7 month regression blah blah.....

Bah

Evening cake
I did just 'lol' at Sophie giraffe violence...massive for the cot well dd seems to be more and more anti as the days go by. Can vouch that weaning does nothing as she has taken to that really well and loves the food, but hasn't significantly improved sleep. She did a 8-1am stretch one night last week which was amazing, then stuck two fingers up and did every hour the night after.
Totally 100% agree with cake you get what you're given, that's why all we are doing here is supporting each other rather than claiming to have found a method in solving the sleep problem with a click of the fingers.

Not sure what massive for the cot is! Bloody auto correct!

Well, after some improvement last week where DS was sleeping up to 3 hours at a time and going back down fairly well, last night returned to hourly wake ups and difficulty getting him back down. We've seen far too many hours last night.

Yawn.

In some ways I find the theory that 'you get what you're given' reassuring, like I shouldn't beat myself up for not doing the right things to sleep train him!

Hope people had a reasonably good night last night.
xx

not a good night here either. every 90 mins. it's getting worse and worse. easy to settle now, mostly using boob. I don't see it getting better on its own so thinking I'll have to ride it out another six weeks to 6m then do something. I feel bad for her too. I can tell she wants to sleep but cant for some reason.

Sorry you had bad night too. Know what you mean about feeling sorry for LO, DS seemed to have really gassy belly last night, I could hear it gurgling away like crazy so think that was waking him too. It seems quieter this morning though which is good. Wondering if something I ate upset him

yes dd has been very farty too. I've not really thought about my diet tbh...

Marking my place! Will be back in a couple of hours when DS wakes!

We are a week into what must be the 4 month sleep regression. DS was not a good sleeper to begin with but now it's back to waking every 90 mins and his 30 min catnaps are now 10 mins or they don't happen at all.

Typical though - he's asleep now but I can't nod off!

I'm going mad. every 90 mins again.

I oscillate between riding it out somehow to 'I can't cope, must do something'

still no massive improvement at our end. Averaging 3 x a night wake ups.

But im also back at work now and homicidal as hell.

keep how old is your LO? My ds did that for a month at about 18 weeks. Interspersed with 2 hrs to settle then 20-30 mins kip. Nearly tipped me over the edge then it suddenly began to change. He had a MASSIVE growth spurt around that time

20 weeks cake. is yours sleeping well now? tbh I don't think it's a growth spurt as she doesn't feed much just seems to need it to settle. in fact I can hear her try to settle herself first with her thumb but she just can't manage it

Emma poor you being at work!!

oh I've just seen your previous post. I tried cosleeping last night but she still woke...

Keep, has your DD just learnt a new skill? My DD2 is now newly 8 months, we had similar for weeks at about the same age. I think learning new things sends them a bit bonkers.

Hello,
Can I join the thread please? I think my DS is going through the 4 month sleep regression early, or at least I hope he is. I dread to think how bad things will get otherwise! He is 14 weeks but was 2 weeks overdue so adjusted age of 16 wks. He has never been a great sleeper but was at least sleeping in 3/4h stretches then waking for feeds (ebf). But for the last couple of weeks he is waking after each sleep cycle so roughly once an hr Also he refuses to settle in his Moses basket after the first sleep cycle so we've taken to co sleeping. At least this means I don't really fully wake for feeds but he is constantly wanting to suckle and wriggles, squirms and kicks all night long, so I'm not getting much rest. My DH would like to try some form of sleep training but I think he's a bit young yet and I'm hoping thus is just a short phase which he will grow out of clutches at straws. As for naps he does get a few a day but these usually have to be forced by being moving in the pram or car. Aagh, please say this is the regression! The thought of it getting worse is depressing. Anyway, sympathise with you all either way .

she learnt to roll about a month ago, I suppose is getting the hang of grabbing.

wee mine is 20 weeks, was 3 weeks early. so a similar age in a way... we had 5/6 hour stretches for a while.

I'm not sure how to cope and am considering giving up bf as I feel this is causing us issues. only a) then I might have no way to settle her and b) she won't take a bottle

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I've thought about giving up bf too but also have the fear of how to settle him. He just loves to suckle and won't take a dummy. I think I might try him with the dummy again this week, but then scared I'm adding another bad habit, also I'm likely to have to keep waking up and putting it back in his mouth all night...

plus I do also love bf....

dummy refuser here too, I agree it could be good or awful. I've been trying to get her to take a bottle recently so dh could help out a bit more. minimal success. dh is hoping if she's only offered a bottle not boob she won't bother waking but that seems unlikely to me.

Hello Keep and Wee.

Feeling your pain. It's just so knackering when they give up sleeping long stretches.

I gave up BF my DD1 at about 16 weeks and lived to really regret it.

FF babies don't necessarily sleep any better and yes, the dummy does need to be replaced at regular intervals all night!

I have spent the last 4 months in "regression" with DD2 and co-sleeping and BF back to sleep has kept me sane. We seem to be through the worst before teething hell starts.

Hang in there it does get better.

thanks soup though it's not that comforting you've had four months of this