My dd is 9 & has always been a crap sleeper, as was my ds 6 but he has slept through from 8ish until half 6/7 since he was 4/5 but dd still wakes 2 or 3 nights a week about 4am, sometimes she gets in with me, sometimes she gets up & plays/reads. Sometimes she foes back to sleep but some nights she is awake talking etc. It doesn't matter if she has gone to bed at 8 or midnight this is just her time. We have very good bedtime routines & she goes off to sleep fine. I am pregnant now, baby will be here in 6 weeks & it just struck me that if he is like her I may have another 9 years of sleepless nights ahead of me. I'm a single mum so all the waking is on me & right now I'm not sleeping great being at the end of my pregnancy so this is wiping me out even more.