Non sleeping baby for sale - PART TWO

[kaz33]

After three attempts to leave a message on this thread I have to start again.

Codswallop - you still have the hacking bronchial cough to come and total loss of interest in food to come. I'm sure it won't be long before DS2 catches another cold.

We were going to sleep in the lounge last night, got the inflatable bed out ready and then discovered the pump wasn't charged and which point we threw our hands in the air and went back to bed. He woke at 4am, bfight eyed and bushy tailed.

slept through.

am I going to face a leadership bid for my own thread?!!

BTW had him assessed yest

91st height and 5- th weight - she said he must be doing a lot to keep growing and not put on weight - Hmm I thought - its the nocturnal activity!

Put him to bed at 7 after he had been an absolute nightmare yesterday - not slept at all despite 5 mile walk in desperation to get him off to sleep!
Woke him at midnight when I went to bed, took a very slow and sleepy 7ozs, thought that might get him through, but no. Woke at 4.30, went in to him so many times, gave in at 5.30 and fed him, took ONE OUNCE before falling asleep again!
Then woke at 7.30.

So that's it tonight, no more Mrs Nice Guy. If he takes a good feed last thing, and then wakes at 4.30, he can settle himself back to sleep. Had put this off because of disturbing ds1, but hopefully it won't take long for him to learn how to get himself off to sleep when he wakes in the night. I'll let you know how we go...

Not too bad here - went down late again - 7.45pm, then woke himself at 10.30 for last feed - through till 4.45 then I woke him at 7.45 - at which point he really wasn't interested in eating, more in watching DH's morning routines - understandable I suppose!

So methinks he doesn't really need that middle of the night feed - its just whether I can summon the energy to 'settle him by other methods' as GF so blithely puts it......

Congrats Codswallop BTW - is that a first?

Congrats coddy!!! Cant wait to be saying that

Not so great here - down at 8.30 up at 12.30, 3.30, 7am

he has done it before - befor e the lurgi!

irritating elena about the bottle. I am loathe to recc a dummy as I hate them..

Keep at it Codster.

waking and dummy-fixing here. Bah. I don't like them either but am weak and knackered and generally inferior

elena2 - I have just sleep trained DS2 at night, I left him the first night and he woke up twice and screamed blue murder. The second night there was a small grumble. Now he settles himself - last night he woke once at 4.30am and then settled himself back to sleep. It didn;t wake DS1 luckily, they aren't sharing a bedroom.

Best night yet here! 9pm - 5am then back down til 8am! woohoo

Think we should bite bullet and sleep train as am too knackered to be coherent or present any illusion whatsoever of being nice functional human being

Mi you are making no sense.

MI ... i totally understand where u are coming from ... exasperation, desperation and exhaustion are the joys of motherhood at the moment ! Then they smile and coo & gurgle !!!!! and all seems ok

MI ... i totally understand where u are coming from ... exasperation, desperation and exhaustion are the joys of motherhood at the moment ! Then they smile and coo & gurgle !!!!! and all seems ok

I have just had the night from hell. My dd usually has me up about 10 times during the night and shouts constantly from about 3am to 6am when she decides she wants to get up. It is not hunger, she just feels she's had enough sleep! She goes down at 7.30pm as she gets really tired. Last night she has started rolling onto her stomach in her grobag and wedging herself against the cot bars. The problem is she can't roll herself back, and therefore starts to cry until I put her back. As soon as I got into bed she did the same thing again. This went on all night until DH got up with her about 6am to give me a couple of hours sleep (he's now gone back to bed). My friend gave me something called baby sleeping bolster which consists of two small bolster cushions attached to eachother which you lay your baby in between therefore preventing any rolling over during the night. Has anyone used these and does anyone know if they are okay to use. I need reassurance that they are safe before I use them but they really do seem like the solution if they are okay. Please help, I have suitcases under my eyes

Coddy, if I'm making no sense - ie can't write clearly - I've CLEARLY lost it, and also cannot do my job properly!

I'm just so tired of staggering out of bed in the small hours to re-dummy my wailing infant. It does usually work, but the constant sensation that a knife has been inserted between the plates of my skull is becoming constant. So it's No Dummy at Nap TIme, I suspect, to be followed by No Dummy At Bed Time.

Hmmm, she's just dropped off without it. Just as well, as parents have become nasty yelling people.

MI - I have no dummy during the night and dummy during the day, he seems to understand the difference.
I sleep trained DS2 about a week ago - it took one night of hell, one night of sub-hell and now he settles himself back to sleep.

Of course his wake up time is between 5am and 6am and even when fed does not go back to sleep !! Not quite sure how to tackle that one, maybe more sleep training to teach him wake up time is 7am. Any ideas?

Back to start here - two nights of waking at 2.00 / 2.30 - hairdryer CD then feed at approx 3.20. However think he is teething as is grumpy during the day and even after feed in middle of the night finds it hard to go back to sleep - not like him - so we shall see....

Kaz, assume you have the usual - blackout blinds etc re the early wakings?

Yes pumpkin - but as you know it is still pitchblack at 5.30am. This morning DS2 woke at 5.30am, back to bed at 7.30am - just when DS1 was waking

Kaz, remind me what you did about the dummy - just take it away at night and insist? We tried a non-dummy nap yesterday, which ended in tears all round and idiotic row between dp and me at top of our voices. Vile night as she wouldn't go off till god knows when: I think it was partly she hadn't had proper naps as dp tends to let her crash out under her babygym rather than taking her upstairs to her cot. Several wakings between her and her sister. I know it's nothing compared to what a lot of others are going through but I really am at the end of my tether. Started looking forward to Monday morning. I don't seem to be enjoying my baby properly. Et boring cetera

....so I should just take it away, shouldn't I?

Hey, where is everyone? STill asleep?

Kaz, GF suggests treating all feeds before say 6.30 am like night feeds - ie in a dark room, quiet, no stimulation - and in her problem solving book suggests you do whatever you need to do just at that particular time to get them back to sleep quickly - ie rocking, dummy etc - then get them up at 7.00/7.30 regardless what time they fed/woke at. Also suggests sleeping bag so they don't get cold.
I think though - although I haven't reread whole thread! - that you may be doing all this already so sorry if I'm just stating the bloomin' obvious again!

As for us - regression big time - first waking at 1.30am, then 2.00 - hairdryer both times, then 3.00 for a feed and some medised, back to sleep till 7.00 thankfully - I am being forgiving as think he is either still recovering from his cold, or has another cold, or is teething - or 2 of the above! - as he definitely isn't 100%, and this am has been coughing and sneezing away so maybe thats the problem... - ho hum, was beginning to think there was light at the end of the tunnel with the two nights we got beyond 4am!!

MIne woke up at ?4 for no apparent reason - got a mouthful of water and then i left him to it. MInd you he is 7 and a half months!

Is sleeping through more often than not now. - well for the time being.

MI - DP was on a two week trip abroad so I had DS2 sleeping in the kitchen with the dryer on and a dummy when he woke up in the night.

Then, I put him down for his night time nap at 7pm without a dummy. He cried a bit for about a half an hour but went to sleep because very tired. He usually whinges for a bit when I put him down at night but it rarely lasts more than 10 minutes. I also removed the dummy when he woke up at night and just got him to sleep in front of the dryer.

Lastly i had him sleeping in our room and just left him to cry it out. It seems to be working, though last night he woke at 4am, he cried and went back to sleep. Good luck, I just think you have to remove it.

Pumpkin, thanks for the advice - he always seems full of life and I just end up getting up. Might give your suggestion a go.

Well, we got a full night last night. So life is a little cheerier!