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[IMissSleep]

SLEEP! Not getting enough at night or naps during the day. Doesn't matter what age your DC are.

Share your stories here, solutions or just have a vent!

I'll start...

My DS is 8.5 months. Went through a good stage with night time routine, still has really - self settles to sleep no problem. Feeds at 11pm. But will wake between 2am - 5am maybe 3 times. So I'm up and down a lot during the night! He has slept through maybe a handful of times. Still good with naps, 2x 2hr.

Still would love a full night though!

One night feed is also our goal here, she's nine months so really shouldn't need that, but she prefers to feed at night - too much going on in day!

Hmm, that sounds very familiar Zimm!

Does make feeding in public less discrete when their heads keep whipping round.

Evening all! Last night was slightly better here.
Put to bed awake 19:30, asleep by 19:45.
Restless 21:00 and 23:30 but did not wake fully so patted back to sleep.
Woke 02:30 (bf and put down eventually at 03:30)
Woke 04:45 (took to bed with me)
Woke for the day 06:00.
Feel things are improving slowly but wasn't expecting miracles. Hope things are getting better for everybody else ( everything crossed).

we got a bloody record last night - 11 times I was out of my bed and I am suffering today. Feels like the worst hangover ever, but without the pleasure of the drink!!

sick of feeling crap, Drs again next week for DD.

Hope you get a better night tonight olivo

Glad you had a better night nov75

Not a bad day with naps here. After my 5am wake up, he had his first nap at 7:30am - no problem. Second nap at 1pm - 2hours. I managed to get him to have a 45 min nap at 4pm.
He's just gone to bed, I put him in his cot at 8:05pm - sleep by 8:10pm! Everything is easier when his bedtime is 8pm rather than 7pm. Will let you know how the night goes...

thanks ladys..imisssleep how do i cope?...I dont lol Im knackered. (and if anyone says to me again sleep when the baby sleeps i may have to slug them!). My mil is insiting i must be doing something wrong...(i think that the wrong thing to have done may have been to give her my phone number lol) I have no idea how i managed the first 8 months as i was b/fding but after that once a fornight my parents take him for the evening coz he is so full on, im dreading moving him from a cot to a bed. im going to have to babygate him in his room i think.We had an exceptionally rough few days with him over the past few days...he can sometimes go up to 3 days without even a nap and this was one of those times so he went down my mums for the evening, as I couldnt even see straight. (hes come back this evening but ive slept for almost 16hours straight so ready to fight again for another few weeks!) My parents are now knackered as he dosnt sleep for them either so i know its not just me (a relief ill admit)
Ive been reading as many threads here as i can to get some more ideas, if anyone has got any suggestions at all, ill gladly give them a go xxxxxx

Oh MIL's will always have a say won't they?!!
Ignore her, you're doing the best you can. Its so good your parents take him for you.
It sounds like you have tried everything. You are superwoman in my eyes!

Not a bad night here:
sleep 8:10pm
dream feed 11:30pm
Lost him dummy 4:45am
Lost him dummy again 5:30am
7am up for the day.

I will never give my next DC a dummy! If he didn't have his dummy, I'm sure he would sleep through. He can go without a feed in the night, its mostly me finding his dummy for him.

IMissSleep I always thought I wouldn't give my DCs dummies and I think I lasted 4 days until I sent my DH to buy one, and insisted he did it immediately! That was largely because I had a baby who just wanted to suck ALL the time, and I was struggeling with BF so it hurt like hell. However, DS had other ideas and all he has ever managed with a dummy was to ping it to the other side of the room! When I realised I was still trying to get him to accept one (hoping it would help him self settle, ha ha) at 6 months when people say you should start trying to ween them off dummies I gave up. .

Not too bad a night here. Bed about 7.20 (pretty much fed to sleep). I went out to a rehearsal and unfortunately DS woke up about 8pm so cried solid for 20 mins then went in his pram and eventually back to sleep about 8.50 - pram is the only way he will go to sleep for DH. Managed to transfer him to cot without waking when I got home then awake 3am (feed), 4.40am (shush/pat) 6am (ignored and he dozed back off, mirical!) and up for the day 6.40am. So, a few wake ups in the early morning but crucially didn't wake at his old 1am feed time again so I think we've cracked this one feed a night lark. Not sure now whether to let that bed down a bit or start trying to push that feed later straight away - ultimately I want no night feeds. At nine months and eating tones in the day he should be able to do it really.

FloweryBoots I had to give DS one for the same reason. He became so attached to one and it was disgusting! I went cold turkey a few weeks ago. He cried for 1 hour, kept throwing the new one across the room, but the next day he'd forgotten about the old one! I will be brave one day soon and go completly cold turkey! (not quite brave enough yet :) )

I'm trying to cut out the night feed too, my DS eat loads in the day and I make sure he has dinner, dessert and some strawberries and banana about an hour before bed.

floweryboots, DS2 is 7 months in a couple of weeks. I tried not feeding him when he woke at 10pm, but he just wailed. Lots. So I fed him, couldn't be bothered to put back in cot. He then woke at 2.50 for the next feed. And he did not go to sleep til 4.20!!! Argh!!! Then woke at 5.40!!! I am so tired today. DH was also up every hour with DS1, who at 4 yo seems to be having lots of nightmares. So we're all knackered today. Apart from DS2 of course who has just had a lovely nap. He doesn't know how lucky he is! How are you getting it to one feed a night?

Yes we have a VW - not a full camper which I would love, but it's our main vehicle so had to be a bit practical. But it converts to kingsize bed and has a table and fridge and swivelly seats.

nov75, your night sounds like mine and ouch olivo, poor you.

Bed at 8.30 tonight I think, although have seen DH for about 5 mins this week

Ps does anyone eat loads of things they shouldn't when they are tired? If I have nothing naughty in then I bake something - bad news!

And another thing - I can't feed DS2 in public at all. He won't do it at all anywhere else.

CamperFan - I bake cupcakes with butter icing... and usually eat the lot!

Get to bed early tonight, I go to bed at 8pm usually once or twice a week just to catch up on sleep. I leave the monitor with OH (He never goes to bed before 11-12) and get a couple of hours in before the madness starts!

Another mixed night but i feel better than I did a month ago so it mustbe getting better (won't hold breath).
Bed awake 19:30, asleep 20:00.
Woke 23:30 (rocked to sleep)
Woke 02:00 (bf and put down 03:00)
Woke 04:30 (took to bed as DH was getting up for work)
Woke for the day 06:00.
Feel things are settling into a pattern so just need her to self settle as I can cope with 1 feed per night. Just keep thinking that only 4 weeks ago it was every 2 hours! Let's pray we are on a path to a full nights sleep!

Sorry about the hard nights folks. CamperFan, very jelous of your VW! We have a very nice tent (plus an old fashioned triangular orange vango which I love for old times sake and my DH doesn't understand my attachment to) but I'd love a VW.

I tried to get my DS to either stretch out the 2 night feeds or drop to one a couple of months ago and it just did not work at all. Many tears (mine as well as his) and so little sleep it just wasn't worth it and I came to the conclusions he just wasn't ready. I tried for about a week with no improvement and I felt that that was long enough to decide it wasn't working. This time it seems to be working much better. All I'm doing is trying to settle him back to sleep without a feed when he wakes at his usual first feed time and then feed him the next time he wakes, as long as it's at least an hour later. Seems to be working. I think we're 6 days in and we've had 3 nights where he's now not woken at his old first feed time. He seems to be having one feed half way between the two he was having now instead. Not sure what to do next though. Anyone any thoughts on if I should leave it at that for a few weeks or start right away trying to push that feed later (with the hope it will eventually coinside with breakfast time!)?

Oh olivio poor you! Nubbles 16 hours sleep sounds wonderful - no one needs it more than you!

A better night here - she slept 6.45pm - 3.15am! Bf, down til 4.15, rocked to sleep, up at 5. came into bed, up for the day at 6. Oh took the 4.15am wake-up so I feel pretty human. We seem to have fallen onto the Gf schedule for naps (!!!) - she slept 9am-10am with me re-settling at 9.30am and now OH is just putting her down for midday nap. I think the decent cot naps are really helping with the night wakings so we will persevere. Have to say, the NCSS tip of resettleing them the minuet they squeak is really helping her learn to transitions between sleep cycles! Feeling positive but expect I will back tomorrow with tales of a bad night!

Hi all!

I've had a couple of more-or-less decent nights. He's still been in with me, but he's only woken twice: 11:30pm and 03:00am before starting to stir at 05:30 and up at 07:00 (woo hoo!!)

I can pretty much cope with that for a while, I have to say...

What I'm struggling with is the horrific biting!!! I'm surprised I have any nipples left!! After this mornings nap, I was in floods of tears because it hurt so much. But that is for a another thread. Damned teething...

Morning! Well last night we had a result. DD went to bed awake at 19:30 and self settled to sleep within 5 mins! Then she slept till 03:30. Can't believe she slept 8 HOURS. Gave her a bf and put her down but by 04:30 she was restless and wanted a cuddle so I took her to bed with me and she went right back asleep till 06:30. I feel amazing! Only one wake up to feed and lots of sleep for mummy. Really hope this can last but even if it fails tonight at least I know it's possible. The NCSS promised results in 60 days and now I have had one (taken 6 weeks) and even better as no CC involved. Hoping you all got sleep too.

Morning!

Crap night here, worst in a long time.

Mum is here so I think its all the excitement. Went to bed at 9pm, usually bedtime is 8pm. Woke at:
11:30
11:45
12
1:30
5:30
up at 6:60

Funnily enough I'm not that tired!Funny how you just get used to having no sleep :)

Will make sure he's in bed by 7:30-8 tonight. Glad some of us are making progress :)

Not a great night here - bed at 7ish, up at 8ish and 9ish. Then up at 2.30am and 5am..up for the day at 6. Booo. She is teething and has a slight cold though - poor thing.

Not as good a night as we had been having here either. Had a really late afternoon nap so nowhere near tired at usual bed time.

8.05 in cot, asleep by 8.30 (shush/pat, so progress from feeding to sleep even if it took a while)
12.50 woke shush/pat to sleep(grr, that's the old feed time, thought he'd forgotten)
2.25 woke - bf
3.30 woke - shush/pad
5.30 woke - bf in bed with us and actually went back to sleep today
7.30 up for the day.

At least today he went back to sleep at 5.30 instead of being up for the day.

Nap times seem moe on track again today so hopefuly we'll get a better night tonight. Hope you other ladies do too.

Blimey Nubbles, I feel your pain - we have many nights of only three or four hours sleep and it is a killer. Take care of yourself.

We are considering Craniosacral therapy for DD1 - does anyone know if that might work for sleep? she had it as a babe for reflux and it seemed to, but DD2 failed to respond and my therapist admitted defeat!

Olivo, my Landlady (who is lovely) swears by it. She said her DS was a terrible sleeper and CT saved them and revoloutionised him. She says he still goes thorugh bouts of bad sleep (think he's about 5 now) and she always goes back for a few sessions and claims it sorts it. Personally I've not tried it but I'm a big old sceptic!

Not too bad a night here I suppose but woke up at 12.50 again, the old first feed time, so I'm feeling frustraited (and at the time much more so - cue shouting back at him to 'just go to sleep' and flinging juggeling balls across the room (because they were in my view of the clock and when I moved them I realised what time it was!). How long will it take him to just not wake up, I'm not feeding him then. All the 'experts' claim if you stop feeding them they will stop waking because it's just habit. They can come and try it on my DS!!!!

Morning all. Mixed night her again but that was due to teething! Hope they come soon as it appears they are responsible for half the night wakings. On a positive note she did manage a full 4 1/2 stretch and I only had to bf once. It's so frustrating trying to work out why things go wrong so I hope we all find answers soon. I take DD to yoga and relaxation and I appear to get a deeper sleeping baby on these days so anything is worth a shot but I would say think before you spend as I was told by my GP alot if these consultants claim success but keep an open mind. If they are reputable then they may help to get you where you need to be. Just don't let someone cash in on your tiredness. Hugs all round.