9 month waking during night

[LynnC]

DD has slept through night since 4 months but past week has been wakening at all hours. She is still tired and will sleep in my arms if nurse her but as soon as put her back in cot she starts crying again. I have had to give her a bottle past few nights which sends her back to sleep which I dont want to start getting her used to it again. Trouble is I dont know if its her mouth thats sore and she also seems to he passing a lot of wind which could be hurting. Anyone have any ideas on settling her without a bottle?

LynnC - sorry bad night - night before last and yesterday I practically held DS all day so calpol didn't quite have the effect wanted! But I gave DS teething powders yesterday with calpol at bedtime and he only woke once at 8pm! I have to admit to waking twice in the night myself as I couldn't believe he was asleep and the sick with worry that something was wrong! But I think he slept because he is knackered he hasn't only not slept at night but during the day too. DS is drooling like a labrador so teeth are imminent I just wish it didn't take so long! Have got some medised but am really using it as last resort as they get ussed to pain meds like we do and you end up giving them more and more which I don't really want to do.

Hi suss - so sorry to hear things are so rough but glad you at least managed to stay in bed all night but understand the worry when your used to getting up again. Hows things so far today? I know just wish could take pain away from them fingers crossed not long now for him. See if teething powders help during day to settle him or if need be another wee bit calpol. Might just take edge off for him and let both you get nap today.

Suss - so sorry to hear that your ds is suffering so much. How old is he? Whilst I understand that you don't want to keep giving him pain relief I'm sure your HV or GP would agree that if his teething discomfort is this extreme that a day or two of regular dosing up to keep him comfortable won't do any harm. Nurofen and Calpol/Medised can be given alongside each other if necessary but check with your pharmacist to confirm. I guess I was lucky as my dd got 1st 2 teeth at 6 months and 2nd 2 (top) 4-5 months later! Hope the fangs appear soon!

Hooray after skipping morning nap this morning (very hairy early lunch) success I put him down at 12 and he is still asleep (1.40pm). I hope this sort of breaks the cycle, because although teeth are some of the problem I think waking becomes a bit of a habit with DS. I wish we could explain to them whats happening to them - because it must be quite unnerving for the little darlings. I am sure this time next week we shall have some teeth.

Thats great he'll be needing good rest and hopefully he will feel a bit better later after it, hope youve taken time out and rested too??? Fingers crossed they come through in day or two for him. I just bought stuff from Boots - Nelsons Teetha powders not sure if they be any good - I usually get Ashton & Parsons but didnt have any, not sure if they would help, theyre herbal so wouldnt be as strong as medicine??

Thanks LynnC I use Ashtons & Parsons as well - by the bucket load at the moment, but they do seem to calm him down. I didn't calpol Ds tonight, as he was a darling boy all afternoon still not convinced all this waking is caused by teeth. I am beginning to think that DS goes through these phases when he thinks he doesn't need to sleep during the day which has a knock on effect at night and this goes on until he is so knackered that he sleeps and then we have a few weeks of peace and then it starts again. keep posting though its nice to chat! Ds was born 20th Jan 2005 by the way.

Hi suss - hows thing been? Any sign of those top two yet? Hows the sleeping at the moment? Sorry not written back earlier but only have access when I'm in work. I've had rough few nights lately but last night I just couldnt calm her down she woke in a scream and got so upset she was uncontrolably sobbing which I've never heard before. I got the calpol which after about 15 mins seemed to kick in. I think her top two arent far off as they all white. Actually noticed the one at side of top tooth broke through the other day so hoping the rest will come quick.

dd born 15th January, 2005.

no teeth yet, Lynn but still drooling like a labrador! Ds sleep patterns are a complete mystery to me. Night before last he woke 15 times between about 2am and 5am. I finally went in (for my own sanity, he wasn't that upset, just couldn't settle) at 5 and he had lost his muslin which he uses as a comfort blanket. But last night he woke just after 7pm (he goes to bed at 6.30ish) cried for about 10 seconds then we didn't hear another peep out of him, until 6.40 this morning ( we get up at 6.45am). I generally find though, if he sleeps well during the day then the nights are better. I am beginning to think that DS is one of those babies that wakes and I think he cries because he is pi**ed off that he is awake not because his teeth are hurting, he certainly doesn't like it when I go in sometimes as the crying gets louder, so going in is the absolute last resort. I just hope he grows out of it. BTW I don't work anymore, ds is the product of 7 years of trying and 10 IVF attempts, so couldn't bear to miss a thing after all that.

Glad to hear you had good nights sleep last night. Awe wee soul...if only we could get them to realise its ok to sleep and they will feel better afterwards. Wow thats a great sleeping pattern (well when he does sleep that is). We dont get dd down till 10ish which I dont really mind especially since back at work so at least I manage to spend night with her when get home. I wish I didnt have to work and hate leaving every morning but needs must!! I only work 4 days now which makes a big difference too and love Fridays having her all to myself again. Glad you had a very happy ending to all those years of IVF it must have been very tough. We tried for 2 years and thankfully fell pregnant just when starting blood tests etc to check hormone levels and stuff. Cant believe how fast time has gone now and wont be long till were blowing out big 1 candle!

Hi suss, how this your end? I'm sitting here on lunch break and could be doing with matchsticks to hold eyes open. Oh thankfully this is just a phase.....had her fighting against me this morning at 2.15. She woke up bit upset so rocked her back to sleep then lay her back in cot and she woke up and sat up smiling. I layed her back down and tried to shushhhh her to sleep but she sat up again, this went on for about 4-5 times before had to cradle her to sleep again, what a performance, at least she had me laughing this time. Hope things settled and ds managing to get back into his daytime nap routine.

Sorry to hear about your bad night. I've been in Wales visiting my new nephew! Ds & I were staying with my father (my mum died just over two years ago) and I couldn't face a bad night so I calpoled ds (bad mother). He did sleep well until 6.40am. We had had the most hideous journey down with ds screaming for about 1hr 40 mins out of a 21/2hr journey, culminating in him vomiting about five minutes before getting there. All because he doesn't like sitting in the back of the car. Journey home (yesterday) I put him in the front, a question of balancing airbag with screaming vomiting child, he slept for an hour and 20 mins (rare in cot let alone in the car). he slept like a dream last night down at 6.40 and didn't wake til 6.30am. It is of course far too optimistic to think he will do the same tonight. I hope you have a peaceful weekend. Like a complete maniac I am starting IVF again next week, well I hope, so continuing sleep would be quite nice.

That must have been nice catching up with your family, although the journey sounded just awful. Thats a shame ds doesnt like the back seat. Is he ok in the front? Thats a shame he gets so worked up and vomits...do babies get travel sick or was it just due to him not wanting to be in the back? I remember my niece getting travel sickness from very young age and was always sick but not sure when we realised thats what it was??? How was the sleeping over the weekend? Any top teeth yet? I had good sleep over weekend but true to form Sunday night before coming to work in morning I was up from 4.10 till 4.55am nursing dd to sleep and that was with calpol too! I dont feel too bad just not but sure will be shatterd by this afternoon.

Thats great news your trying again hope everything goes very well and hope to hear good news soon .

no top teeth yet! You can see them through the gums but they haven't broken through yet, I think I am just going to forget about the teeth, they will arrive sometime. Sleepwise, I don't want to tempt fate, because things can change and they do! But it hasn't been so bad since he had his 3 day I don't need sleep thing a week ago. He wakes occasionally, but doesn't scream or cry, and he goes back to sleep. Well he has been able to do that for a long time as we did sleep training of the brutal variety and very young. Ds isn't travel sick he just doesn't like being in the back. He had a really good journey home eating rich tea biscuits with his mummy. You still breastfeeding, you saint, I had to give up at 7 months I couldn't eat enough to keep up with him and we wanted another baby. Lynn do you look a the post natal board as I post under the Jan 2005 babies we could meet there if you like as it seems that sleep is not the only issue!

Glad to hear things settled sleep wise now hopefully stay that way...for a while at least! No I'm not b/f had to give up after two weeks dd was just cutting me to pieces and not getting enough out of me?? I will have a look at post natal board, havent fully investigated the site yet and dont really like just butting into conversations but will look anyway and maybe catch up soon and keep me posted re IVF - best of luck

Told you I had spoken too soon, darling boy woke twicw last night, he didn't cry, but I knew he was awake and I lay in bed mentally wishing him to go back to sleep and not get upset, which he did bless him. How you doing sleep wise? Still no top teeth, I don't think he has any, its all a big joke.

Snap!! I heard dd waken too but thankfully didnt cry either and went back to sleep herself (doesnt happen very often so very thankful) only once for me though. I heard her sitting up laughing when she touches her mobile then fell back down and back to sleep. Heres hoping for good night sleep tonight. You'll just be getting used to sleeping again before your up all night with new bambino to start this delightful journey all over again(hopefully x)

I did speak too soon, DB has decided yesterday that a 40 min nap was sufficent but it isn't, so we had a v broken night as he couldn't settle properly. Today he has done 1hr 10 mins and I hope its going to be enough as we are having friends round for supper, the first time since he was born - do you think I should calpol him?

Hi suss, so sorry to hear ds routine out the window again. Its sooooo tiring when your up all the time. I have ceen the same and hardly had any sleep all week but I'm pretty sure its dd teeth causing her to wake but must be frustrating when not sure whats causing him to wake. Do you wrap him up when he sleeps? I know that probably sounds silly but dd always sleeps better when wrapped up - could maybe try for his next nap. Also I know its not his teeth but I dont suppose a teething powder would do any harm to give him since they are supposed to have calming effects. Not sure about the calpol if he isnt in any pain although I completely understand what you mean, what about a wee half with a teething powder, you never know it might be his teeth causing him to wake and theyre just taking a while to come through. Must be something making the wee soul adjatated. Hope you manage to have a great night having your friends round. If they are coming late on do you think dd would last to stay up a wee bit later in the hope that might make him sleep through?

Sorry suss just read last message back and I went on a wee ramble trying to squeeze everything in - hope makes sense

LynnC & Suss

Has anyone mentioned Cranial Osteopath to you before? Cured my dd sleep problems (only problem being we left it until she was 5!) Slept through the night after the third treatment for the first time - plenty of info on MN if you do a search - let me know if you would like more info - maybe the Calpol cures her discomfort?

Did you have a difficult or assisted delivery (or very fast delivery) by any chance?

I can't believe it He slept through til 6.30am and we made loads of noise. Lynn he is in a grobag, one of those sleeping bags with pjs and a long sleeved vest as his room gets a bit chilly at night. DB is having cranial osteopathy and has been since he was 6 months in an effort to help his sleep and also his flat head, a hangover from the first 5 months when he slept like a dream. DB started waking when he started to roll over, it is getting better. But I think I have made some discoveries - tell me what you think. 1) when he is tired DB bolts his bottle and gets wind, tonight I actually winded him and he seemed much more settled when I put him down. 2) Lunchtime nap is interupted by poo, I don't believe for one second that he poos in his sleep, but recently he has been pooing duirng his nap and won't go back to sleep afterwards, If this is what is stopping him to nap, I am just going to have to wait until his bodily functions catch up with his sleep patterns! How are you doing Lynn is your DG doing better, sleepwise I hope so. Have a good weekend, with atleast eight hours a night!

Suss thats fantastic, glad to hear your night was a success and managed to enjoy yourself. I know what you mean with the winding, I always have to wind dd or she gets pain which unsettles her. Do you think the grobags help? I have thought of them but havent got one yet. Our house gets pretty chilly at night too but DD loves getting wrapped up in blanket before bed so not sure how she would sleep without it. Well hopefully the poo will start behaving and coming at reasonable times ha..ha!

I have never heard of cranial osteopathy, will have a look if I get the chance thanks fimac1.

I have had terrible weekend sleep wise and could cry just now but wont!!! DD not been herself and a bit underpar, think maybe wee cold or tummy bug. Had broken sleep all weekend but Saturday was horrendous (forgive the spelling) the screaming was awful and couldnt settle her she was in so much pain and passing lots of wind so not sure what was the cause. Thankfully she has been getting better since then so fingers crossed for good sleep tonight.

I am sorry you had such a bad weekend and I know what you mean about wanting to cry - it s because you are at your wits end and don't know what to do. Strangely they (babies) know this and will give you one night off before returning to their normal selves!

I cannot believe it DB was v unwell on Saturday and Sunday (We must have parallel twins or something!)with a bad tummy and consequently a v sore bottom. He is feeling better now and starting to eat again but strangely his sleeping was amazing over the wkend he took long naps and slept at night - he must have been feeling v ill poor little man. I know he is back to normal as he has only slept for 1hr this lunchtime.

Grobags are fab DB knows it is sleeptime and he is such a wriggler the is no way he would keep under sheets and blankets. You can even get them for the car so if we travel after bedtime he knows it is time to go to bed and when you get home I put him straight into the cot. God knows what I am going to do when he is older and doesn't have one.

Awe sorry your DB unwell too. But glad he seems to be getting better. Will he not go for another nap later today before his bedtime? Oh I hope he sleeps through for you tonight. I think I might go and get a grobag and try them. Dont know why but was unsure of them??? No reason just suppose thinking their wee arms would get cold but then again they wriggle out the covers so not any difference really and like you say if she got on long sleeve vest and jammies she should be fine. Right thats my next mission to get one! Well best of luck for good sleep tonight....Oh whilst I remember I told you a while ago about different teething powders when I couldnt get the ashton & parsons but DD came out in rash recently, probably not connected at all but that was the only think different I could think I have given her so maybe best not to stray from things like that and stick to stuff we know they are ok with.

DB gets rashes all the time - they probably aren't connected as all teething powders contain the same stuff, as I discovered on my tour around various chemists and healthfood shops to find something that works.

You can get grobags from a company called Bump to 3 they are online.

I hope you get some sleep tonight!