Non sleeping baby up for sale.

[codswallop]

why will my 5 mth old not sleep through?
e=ven only one eed a night would be nice.

DS3 (10.5mo) that should read. Oops!

Thanks everyone. Last night was much much better - she slept from 11ish to 6 with only one very brief waking. Amazing. Not sure what tonight will bring, of course...re naps, I was (surprise surprise) exaggerating v slightly - essentially she naps quite a bit in the morning. But I am not very good, I have to say, at working out how to get her to nap in her cot or carrycot or just lying down. Do I just persevere?

And expressed milk is another story; she's only slurping in somewhat distressed way at the bottle. Fathersuperior says would-be reassuringly that of course she'll get the hang of it. I of course have visions of her starving to death once I'm back at work. I suspect he's right, of course. May need to experiment with different teats - any recommendations? We're using the Avent ones at the moment.

Coddy, what on earth do you do when he wakes up? How much current affairs can you absorb? Does this mean you actually understand the Hutton enquiry, about which my brane is totally addled?

coddy, motherinferior et al - are you keeping your dd/ds in the bedroom? If when they wake up they are moved down to the kitchen/lounge whatever that's quite stimulating for them. It helps them to view nighttime as sleep time if they don't come out of the room they sleep in. Just a thought and apologies if that's no help at all.

You can always cup feed.... works really well with the baby I work with who refuse bottles.

I would persevere with naps in bed (she WILL get the hang of it) - I just think it is in the baby's health interest to sleep well.

No I stay in a darkened bedroom and dont look at hime etc etc. I know the theory its just getting His NIbs to comply. He feeds quickly and goes stright back to his own room. I just want to go to bed at night knowing I dont have to get up 4 hours later.

Am Hutton expert.

DD2 is in our bedroom; we stumble around in the dark like Frankenstein's monster. Pupuce, good idea to persevere with actual naps in cot, as opposed to slumped drunkenly on my shoulder; I'm trying to space feeds out a bit more too, more in desperate attempt to get a framework on the whole business of baby-rearing than anything else, I have to say.

Actually got idea of 10ish feed from Penelope Leach, whom I'm not usually keen on.

Am too knackered to understand Hutton. Can only focus on nice gory thrillers and/or mags with pics of delightful clothes intended for leggy 20-somethings with flat stomachs, no kids and the spare income because they don't spend it all on childcare. Cods, which Kelly said what to whom about what? Does it matter? Aren't they saying he now had PND or something?

Also having seen 'bed times' thread realise should be putting dd2 to bed a lot earlier, more like what I used to do with dd1 at same age, only with a couple of hours weeping and wailing and gnashing her gums till she'll actually fall asleep at nineish it seems worth trying to eat ourselves first...oh soddit. Am clearly raising delinquent. Should we introduce them, coddy?

am trying to be sympatheitc Mi but I think she sounds great for 10 weeks!

so why does he regularly wake up at 8pm when he goes to bed at 6 30. Just had a huge stand off with him over feeding and he squealed for 20 mins and was almost convulsing by the end. He had a huge tea and feed at 6 - 6 30. Now asleep

Can I join in - just had two days of both DS1 and DS2 on my own.....AAAAARGH, I have not killed them though I did throw a tea towel above DS1's head at dinner as he refused to eat the carefully prepared shop bought pizza I had just bought at his request. Ah well, only another 11 days until DP comes home.

I have decided that DS2 is learning to go to bed at 7pm and sleep through the night if only to maintain my sanity. Got him down tonight at about 8.15pm after i carefully explained to him that i was going to watch Eastenders with a glass of wine and he might as well go to sleep to save himself all the energy of screaming his head off. IT WORKED, well I had Eastenders on so no idea how long it took but less than 15 minutes as I did a sneaky check ( turned volume off on remote control ).

The sleeping through the night could be more difficult as he is in our bedroom and therefore harder to ignore, I suppose I could go and sleep in the lounge.

Seriously it was about this age that DS1 started to sleep through the night - DS2 is taking roughly the same amount of food in total he has just started to take it in the day not at 2am. So can't see there is anything wrong with settling them back with dummy.

Going to have to start another thread on weaning baby off dummy as using dummy for everything at the moment. Never used one with DS1 but it works wonders with DS2.

codswallop - my 13 week old often wakes up when he is still tired, wind mostly I think - just needs to be put back to sleep. Easier said than done.

Hmm thanks. Mine is tooo old for all these shenanigans. My other two were dream boys in comp.

Ps i have 10 days of all three alone!!

hes awake abloody gain.

Little bugger.

Mine thrashing about but in cot, dammit.

Kaz, yes, a 'methadone for dummy addicts' thread PLEEEZE...

Ok so he went to bed at 6 30 and awoke at 7 30 (cuddle) 9(cuddle and hysteria) and then at 11 30 - good prog on Alistair Campbell on thenI gave him a feed and he slept thru.

whats with the evenings?

Toothache seems to have gone.

However, now has excema (sp?) in ears.

Last night dh SHOOK ME AWAKE and said 'she's crying'. I politely mentionned that if he could hear her, then why the didn't he * go and sort her out his * self.

Ahhhhhhh the delights of parenthood.

Hope you don't mind me joining in - i know you've done all this before and no problems with first 2 - but with my 2 (3.5 and 8 months) whenever there were episodes like this (ie. bed at 7.00, awake again at 9 screaming) - looking back it always turned out to be hunger - i just hadn't got the amount right during the day. i was constantly having to 'up' the amount she ate even though i thought she couldn't possibly manage anything else! Just a thought - and you've probably tried everything anyway! (bye the way, i'm probably not allowed to say this but formula at night definitely helped settle too!)

yes wont tkae a bottle and I cant be arsed to have a battle over it at this stage - he will be on a cup before you know it.

s o yes maybe more food. He has 2 jars of food at night and then both sides of a feed. what do you all think?

also temp - what bedclothes xhould I have at the mo

Bedclothes depends on where you live, I guess. We have gone from ds2 (7m) sleeping in a vest with just his arms through his 1 tog sleeping bag two weeks ago to his wearing a vest, pyjamas, fully zipped into his 2.5 tog sleeping bag, once with a fleecy blanket. It's definitely autumn up here and he wake if he gets cold.

Both DS's are in 2.5 tog sleeping bags at the moment

Oooh, I am glad someone has brought up the clothes issue, dd's room sticks out the back of the house and therefore doesn't have any insulation from other houses - sometimes when I go in her hands feel really cold, monitor temp says 19 degrees though, so not too cold???

She has vest, babygro and 2.5 tog bag.

after reading this v. amusing thread and luckily having nothing to contribute as my kiddies love their sleep (see that halo of mine shining?)..now can I please sneak in a 'product' question and ask if any of you know where to get a CHEAP sleeping bag for 1yr old..becuase I can't find one anywhere for under 18 quid and now I am SAHM I have an excuse to be tight with the cash...help someone?

P.S codswallop the wind up winnie the pooh cot light did it for me!!!

Just purchased 2.5 tog sleeping bag for my ds (10weeks, approx 14lb) - when do you get them in the bag, as soon as the yawns start, just when they're finally nodding off, have it ready in the cot for that final move? Sorry for such an obvious question but I really have no idea!