Non sleeping baby up for sale.

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why will my 5 mth old not sleep through?
e=ven only one eed a night would be nice.

DD was really good at nights and was down to one feed at night by about 10 weeks (ish). But it soon went down hill at about 5 months. Slowly getting better now though (when not teething or ill). Even at 7 months I don't want to introduce formula or bottle. Another few months and she will be on cows milk out of a cup so can't see the point. One thing I did learn with ds and now with dd is not to count my chickens

I tried giving her a cup at night but she looked at me as if I had offered her mustard and cyanide!!

I still think that I must have done everything wrong with her - bad mother that I am

OK so he awaoke at 9pm then 3 am then 5 30 am when his arm was stuck in the cot bars.

Dh in S africa next week so am thinking of thryind some controlles crying.

What do yu all think?

I am all for it and am contemplating doing the same with 4 month old DS2 - he wakes up between once or twice a night and is not fed but still continues to do so. I think it is because he is in our room and he has got out of the habit of settling himself.

DS1 is with his grandparents on Friday and Saturday night and I am contemplating putting him his DS1's room and letting him get on with it. When I have done CC, I have found that it really only takes 2 or 3 nights for both my boys to make the connection. DS1 and DS2 both started settling well at night because they got left to cry two nights in a row - now DS2 goes down like a dream.

so offer still on.

I never did it kaz - more details please.

Don't know. It worked for ds in just one night. But every time you go into dd she just turns the volume up each time. It goes on for hours until I give in and rocked/fed/cuddled her to sleep. The one time it worked was when I was a really bad mother and left her crying for 30 minutes and she went to sleep on her own. She has been better since then and settles herself quite quickly on her own now.

How I was told to do it was to put them down, leave them 3 minutes, go in re-settle, no eye contact or cuddles, just company and then leave them for 4 minutes and so on, increasing the time by 1 minute every time you go in up to max of 10 minutes and then stick at that. HV also said to spend less time with them each time you go in. There are probably other methods but this worked with ds and I would be interested to hear if there are other methods.

HTH

Oh - and a glass of wine helps with the nerves

Bad mother here - it would be wrong to call my method controlled crying. I just let baby cry until they fall asleep - the longest with DS1 was about 1 hour ( he was probably about 5 months ) and DS three quarters of an hour ( at 3 and a half months ).

i don't understand what good it does to keep going in - but thats my opinion

ok, he has woken already and we gave hem some water and left him, the prob is that dh is a real wuss

Thanks Kaz, I feel better now I know I am not the only person to do it like that. Going in does seem pointless when all it does is wind me and dd up more.

My dh is a bit of a wuss as well, but as he goes to work at 5.00pm, I am usually on my own when doing it. On the other end of the phone he is really calm and brave, but when he is here he gets really agitated and keeps wanting to go in!

Good luck

Here is some good advice from a mother that had a DD that did not sleep through the night until she was 3 years old.

The 9 step program:

You must get up and run over to them if the sound of their breathing changes, before they even make a peep, because you still feel connected at the belly button and you have sonic hearing which kicked in immediately after the delivery. You can also hear the train whistle from 20 miles away now.

When they cry, pick them up immediately and comfort them. Then place the baby between you and your husband so that she can rest peacefully and feel the rhythum of your heart and breath. They want to go back into the womb and so do you.

After they have been sleeping between the two of you or next to you for at least the next 3 to 3 1/2 years, then you can move them to their own bed. Oh...also, don't ween them from the bottle until they are at least 3 years old, this way you can never get an uninterrupted night of sleep until they are at least 3. (you just get their front teeth capped and everything will be alright)

After you move them to their own bed, sleep with them all night for the first month so that they get used to this transition without any trauma or complaining. Make sure they get used to all the new sounds and are NEVER afraid of anything.

After the first month, leave the bed as soon as they fall asleep. If they wake up in the middle of night, allow them to join you on your side of the bed and cuddle them and ask them to tell you all about their bad dream. Make sure you ask them if they want a drink. You never, ever want to see them curled up crying outside your bedroom door with their own blanket, this would be terrible for their self-esteem!

When they don't want to sleep in their own bed even if you lay there with them for 45 minutes, allow them to come back and sleep with you in your bed for an additional year.

When they start kindergarten (age 5 here), introduce them back to their beds again. Follow instructions from lines above.

Ignore husband's pleas to get his bedroom back. Ignore his questions when he asks, "Don't you think it is time for her to be sleeping in her own bed?" Time passes quickly.....

Age 9: Mommie, can you just lay down with me for a few minutes tonight???

This technique has proven quite effective for me as you can see.

Where do you get them from

Where, what why? Dino Eggs, Sleeping technique? This is how I did it with my DD! This is a true story!

Your just very funny

Night Night, FFI do need to make dinner for my brew now, it is 6:00 PM here! I am glad that I can entertain youI know you are going through such a tough time. XXOO

LOL Sunchowder - I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I first read it

7.30 to 6.30am and then played with toys until 7.30. So she can do it!

sunchowder, that sounds like a (too) familiar story. We play what dh calls musical beds in the night, never knows who sleeps where and when...
Well, dd sleeps for most of the time next to me as she has not figured out the difference between mummie and dummie...

LOL Sunchowder! Don't forget to move to the very edge of the bed so baby has enough space or to let him sleep on your chest if beside you is not enough!

I'm the very fun of CC crying as I have most of my nights back! Now I think it's the only method worth trying
Coming back used to wind ds up too, there was no point to come back as it would just take longer. But as you know I had a method to settle him in the cot without a bottle until he got the idea and then didn't cry longer than 20 min

Well my own version of uncontrolled crying starts tommorow night. Only problem is that DS2 has a nasty cold - so feeling a bit cruel but i have a limited window of opportunity on Friday and Saturday nights !!!!

I meant fan
But i think you figured it out

I was going to take my two off the market, as I think they've just moved into 'ordinary' bad sleeping, but boy oh boy am I cream crackered. I remember when dd1 used to crash before 7 for 12 hours. Last night - admittedly most of us have colds except dd2 (breastfeeding protection?) but both of them woke up at different times; dd2 settled with dummy (yep), dd1 wailing about how unhappy she was about not being able to sleep.

Am very bad mummy today.

Mind you dd2 is turning into quite a napper. I think we are actually getting somewhere. Perhaps. But ooooooh would I kill, mercilessly and nastily, for a night's SLEEP!

Oh, and I don't think the naps are linked to the waking at night - even if they are, I can't see how to keep her awake when she's dog-tired and miserable; I assume it's just a stage, like last week's feedathon...any views?

DS1 has gone off to grandparents for the weekend - DS2 is a doddle really just on his own. Poor love has a terrible cold, is teething but we've dosed him up with drugs so lets hope he sleeps for a while.

Ok so we are now onto only one waking per night.

Mind you dh off to S africa again tomorrow so expect to see me on here ranting!